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Oh and while talking conky, another little tidbit:
I use the Exaile music player, it's my favorite, not too complex, does internet radio and seamlessly integrates with streamripper. It's not in the repo so i'm likely the only user, lol, but if you do, it works with conky, it's not on the list of music/media players that conky works with, but it does work. Here's my lines, all I want it to do is display artist name and track but i'm sure you could add more if desired:
${if_running exaile}${font BankGothic Md BT:pixelsize=14}now playing : ${execi 10 exaile --get-title} – ${execi 10 exaile --get-artist}$endifI put it at the bottom of the display, since when it's not running that line closes up to the one above, if you stick it between sections somewhere it has to add a new line and that freaks conky out sometimes.

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Redundant post, issue solved, conserving site resources. ![]()
Redundant post, issue solved, conserving site resources. ![]()
So i've added weather to my conky display using wttr.in: https://github.com/chubin/wttr.in
Super cool service, only had to install curl for it to work. It will display full info in terminal, but i'm using it with conky and don't need all the details it gives in terminal. It can be a bit tricky to get it to work for your area, it tries by default to do it based on your IP, which wouldn't work quite right for my location so it defaulted to some other area. Play around with it by running in terminal:
curl wttr.in/(add your city, county or lat/long)You can add a location to the command, in my case again my city is too small and remote for it, but it did recognize me when I typed in my county name, which is great because my county is very small and weather is consistent across it. You can also do it by latitude/longitude.
I set mine to update every 20 minutes, but will probably change to every 30 minutes, the less calls the better as it will freak out on you for too many calls.
You will likely need to use your system's fixed width font to get the arrows in the wind output to work, mine is Monospace Regular:
${voffset -7}${font Monospace Regular:pixelsize=12}${alignc}Here's the code I used to stack some simple results in my conky:
${execi 1800 curl wttr.in/(enter your city or county or latitude-longitude here, no parentheses)?format="Condition:+%C\n""Temperature:+%t\n""Wind+chill:+%f\n""Humidity:+%h\n""Pressure:+%P\n""Wind:+%w\n""Precipitation:+%p\n"}And this is the result (ignore the Exaile output below it, lol):

You can add or subtract as you see fit, here is a list of the params you can call up:
To specify your own custom output format, use the special %-notation:
c Weather condition,
C Weather condition textual name,
x Weather condition, plain-text symbol,
h Humidity,
t Temperature (Actual),
f Temperature (Feels Like),
w Wind,
l Location,
m Moon phase 🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘,
M Moon day,
p Precipitation (mm/3 hours),
P Pressure (hPa),
u UV index (1-12),
D Dawn*,
S Sunrise*,
z Zenith*,
s Sunset*,
d Dusk*,
T Current time*,
Z Local timezone.
(*times are shown in the local timezone)That's it, works great, simple small solution, just how I like 'em!
my pc?
Dell Aptitude XT3 i7 4 cores 8GB Ram 1 TB
*laughs in 2-core @1ghz 4GB ram 300gb HD* ![]()
You don't really need to exclude Suggests, because they don't get installed by default. I would put such lines in a file under apt.conf.d (usually 00norecommends). That way they won't get clobbered if apt.conf gets updated.
If you do a netinstall, you don't need to update and upgrade right after. You already have the latest.
Cool, thanks! Was really only going to use the lines for apt.conf to avoid having to type out --no-recommends every time until I was able to boot into the GUI and start using Synaptic. Probably overthinking it because now that I reflect you can type multiples into the "apt install" command, yes? So I would only have to type the no-recommends line once....sorry, been awhile since i've done this stuff and memory is going kaput.
RE: netinstall and upgrades, I was assuming the kernel and infrastructure that would be initially installed was whatever was on the netinstall iso? And since there's been a kernel upgrade since I first downloaded and installed Daedalus I thought that might be the case with the netinstall as well.
So basically the netinstall is just the vehicle, and all the files you will install on the machine will come not from it but directly from the repo?
Welcome friend!
If you want an OS that's fun to play around on, you picked the right one, this has been the best and funnest one in all the years i've been messing with Linux!
However, I was still frisky back then. I've gotten older and cantankerous and just want a stable system now.
Lol, you and me both. Been running Devuan 1 for 6.5 years now, lol.
Not long ago had conversation with a guy in the library who was interested in what distro I was running, told him, and he was like OMG why are you running something that old?
me: Because it works
him: omg but there's new stuff
me: don't care, it's not broken so no need to fix it
him: But things will break
me: it's not broken
him: it will be
me: IT'S NOT ******* BROKEN!
LOL! But in all seriousness, 6 and a half years and all machines are still working fine, that's awesome, one of the reasons I love Devuan, never had an update in those years that broke anything, it all just kept humming right along.
Thanks! It is a wired connection and nice and fast too, so GTG there.
I do like Synaptic, i'm a GUI guy, and one of the main philosophies behind the iso's I make is making it user-friendly for folks who are new to Linux, while at the same time using Openbox instead of a DE to ease them slowly into things more complex if that makes any sense. Trying to encourage them to be more DIY by making it easy and understandable to get started doing their own tinkering.
And with Synaptic, it's super easy to look at the recommends and suggests for a given package and go ahead and install them if I want them. More of a pain when using apt to try and decipher them.
Most of them are sensible, but i've seen some that kinda go crazy.
Gotcha. I'll use it, if it wills it so, lol.
For those unfamiliar with it, this is basically a good analogy for it:

Refracta2usb is a psycho program, i'm pretty sure if I gave it the right instructions it could make my coffee in the morning, lol!
So while we're here, why isn't it in the repo? I need a copy for new stuff i'm doing.
I have at least 3 different sticks I made with it, one with live system, one with live +persistence, and one that's actually a conventional install with a swap part and everything. Cool!
Slightly off-topic: Sure wish Devuan would include obmenu-generator in the repo, there's a .deb package for it now at suse. Would have to include the Linux::Desktop files perl module, but only other depends are already included in basic Devuan, just perl really.
You do need to add libmodule-build-perl to install the module manually.
First for those who don't know me, I am NOT a developer or IT guy by training or experience, just an older linux user who likes to tinker, so forgive my simple questions please.
I have done a netinstall before on several occasions, but have always installed a DE as part of that process, never done a barebones install then booted to the CLI and installed manually. When I did Vuu-do originally, I didn't do it that way, I de-constructed Miyolinux down to basics and re-built from there with a lot of help from Miyo and fsmithred.
So, protocol as I now understand:
Run the iso, I have partition already prepared, install only barebones and will install grub. Reboot. I'm assuming i'll still be able to automatically connect to internet when I re-boot to CLI of this install?
Next:
nano /etc/apt/apt.confAdd these lines as a more elegant way instead of typing out instructions for apt? Good to go?
APT::Install-Recommends "false";
APT::Install-Suggests "false";
Acquire::Languages { "en"; "none"; };Then:
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgradeThen time to install programs, I have a list of about 20 to start with, but would it be better to just install Xorg, DM, WM, FM, panel, network manager and Synaptic and reboot first and do the rest from synaptic?
Thanks!
The above reply by Steve_v says it all!
Found an old machine I forgot I even had, it's even older than my daily user which is 12 years old or so, this one's probably 15 or better. Lady gave it to me a long time ago, It was a Windows Vista machine, and had ground to a complete halt, and she wanted me to try and retrieve her old files and pics and such, so I did, but I also put an early version of Vuu-do (Devuan 1) with the MATE desktop to make it useable for her again, but when I brought the machine back to her she had already bought a new one but was so happy I saved here files she just gave me the old one, and it's been sitting unused for some 5 years. Seriously old and low-spec with just a gig of ram.
Pulled it out and it fired right up, using it in the garage right now playing internet radio and running sound through my shop system. And it's actually quite zippy, even the old Palemoon browser still works and is pretty fast.
And at idle it only uses about 190 mb of ram, as opposed to my current MATE system which is using around 660 and a little cumbersome even with better specs and 4 gigs of better ram. And the system is MUCH larger than that old MATE system, probably roll the whole thing into an 800 mb iso.
Lotsa factors in that equation I know, but GTK3 and Wayland and pulse and such are definitely part of it.
And though they are much smaller than 6 years ago and everything is a little better, people are still using SVG's for icons and it's still slowing down my menus.
All the little stuff matters when added all together IMHO.
But i'm excited, found all my old notes, downed the netinstall iso, and am preparing to do new Vuu-do!
RE: pcmanfm
It's very useable and low resource and quick. And making it more user friendly is simply a matter of adding extensions, I added a bunch of right-click context menu options to mine, quick image re-sizer and a rotator using imagemagick and yad, open terminal within whatever folder or directory you're in, open as root, edit as root, set image as wallpaper, view exif data etc. etc. basically all the functions you can get from a larger DE file manager like caja.
It's very possible to mimic the functionality of a full DE with Openbox, pcmanfm, and tint2, you just have to connect the dots.
Was super easy to edit the look and colors with gtk2 as well....
+1 with regard to PlayonLinux, used it back in the day on Devuan 1 to play Diablo 2, worked great, even had an old school LAN party with wife and a couple of friends, total blast!
Thanks for all the replies!
I'll definitely be building an Openbox system, pcmanfm, tint2, etc. Hella lotta work to tie everything together and be useable, but the end product is super nice to work with at least for me.
Sadly some of the programs I use now want the stuff....gonna really miss the ease of simple text config files for the user interface.
Daedalus with MATE, One of the things I like about Exaile is that it plays nice with Conky and gives me a "Now Playing" on the display.

This sounds intresting. Is there a way i could get "the absolute minimal version of Devuan os" as .iso-file somehow?
I liked the minimal live but i don't completely agree with the choice of packages it has.
Seems like you could install it, delete what you don't want, then install Refracta-Snapshot and Installer and roll your own iso that way, that's basically how I make my own iso's.
Just doing my research before I start building myself a new system, I barely got by without GTK3 last time and knew it would be inevitable one day, that's why I used my old system for so long. Pure ALSA, GTK2 so light and fast and easy to mod, low system resource usage, so awesome on old hardware.
So looks like GTK3 is now a must and apparently Wayland is too even though I have compositing turned off? Looks like most of my chosen programs require both....the little pop-up mini-views of items in the window list are especially useless, browser too, just junk eating up CPU and RAM.
I has a sad now.
Interesting....In my old system Chromium worked without pulse just fine, but so did FF and Pale moon etc.
Then somewhere along the line FF sound stopped working, and the appimage version didn't have sound either.
As far as new Chromium working on ALSA alone I have no way of testing, just going off what I read of it's dependencies list.
Well I don't have a solution...i'm actually curious as to why it's working in opensuse.
On my old install (Devuan 1) the repo finally went bye-bye and I needed an updated browser, so I got an appimage of FF 116, browser worked fine but no sound, and that system is also pure ALSA like yours.
Chromium now requires pulse too.
Yeah I have pulse installed, default install threw it in there, and I haven't messed with it yet. Mate version is 1.26.0, VLC is version before today's update.
gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio is actually not installed on my system. Sound seems to be working okay, had to install another package for Exaile to work properly (python3-dbus).
It's actually vlc-plugin-base that wants libpulse0, but VLC works normally without it as I dummy'ed it out on last system, was only required for communicating with other machines on the LAN that use pulse, but I never needed that functionality.