Hello:

I've just installed it.
Straightforward, easily configured from the start and works right out of the box.
From what I have seen/tested, works exactly as intended.

The maintainer keeps a clear head:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … g=712137#8

Unless you are running some serious email stuff in your box, I'd say it is a great option.
Don't think you'll have unpleasant surprises like I had with Exim4.  8^|

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4379
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4672

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Edit:
Besides needing to be in the mail group, you will also need to install the mailutils package.
Otherwise doing mail at the command line will not work.

Don't know why, I would have thought it to be a dependency.
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Best,

A.

Hello:

Right.

What version?
The one in the Beowulf repository?
ie: 0.11-1+deb10u1

Thanks for your input.

A.

Hello:

Rather dissapointed to see that I'm probably the only one here using Pi-hole on a VM. 8^P

But I digress, so to the point:

The problem was not caused by the VBox VM / Exim4 starting order but by Exim4's default configuration / installation process / whatever.
ie: Exim4 was not waiting for the virtual machine to start but was obviously attempting to do something and not being able to do it.
Hence the delay at boot.

I really did not want to but finally ended up diving into the Exim4 configuration files.

On the suggestion of a (very kind) member of the exim-users list, I was given instructions for changing the 30s value on daemon_startup_sleep but that did not solve the problem.

While I was at it, I also tried playing with the reverse DNS values, including remming the whole reverse DNS block, also to no avail.
This left me with the impression that the problem (30s delay) was not at all related to the reverse DNS done by Exim4 or the daemon_startup_sleep value.

A last minute complete reinstall of Exim4 (typical MS strategy I really loathe) did not work either.

tl;dr

The solution was to add 'this' line to the the 'Main' section of the file exim4.conf.template:

disable_ipv6 = true

But I had to add it: it was not there by default.
ie: not disable_ipv6 = false, disable_ipv6 = true or even disable_ipv6 = so it would come up (?) when running dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config.

I was just shooting in the dark, no memory of how I got to doing that.
It was late, I was tired, cannot remember.

Probably the paniclog message I had not seen before?

In any case, to me this is another Exim4 bug.
I see it as a bug because this is happening even after a clean Exim4 installation on a Devuan installation with IPv6 disabled everywhere:

1.
The kernel command line includes the bit needed to disable ipv6 at boot:

ipv6.disable=1

2.
The /etc/hosts file has no machine readable IPv6 lines:

groucho@devuan:~$ cat /etc/hosts
#
127.0.0.1         localhost  devuan
#
# remmed to disable ip6
#::1              localhost       ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
#fe00::0          ip6-localnet
#fe00::0          ip6-mcastprefix
#fe02::1          ip6-allnodes
#fe02::1          ip6-allrouters
groucho@devuan:~$ 

3.
The /etc/ssh/ssh_config file includes the line needed to disable ipv6:

groucho@devuan:~$ cat /etc/ssh/ssh_config
--- snip ---
AddressFamily inet     # instead of 'any' or 'inet6'
--- snip ---
groucho@devuan:~$

So that was it, Exim4 was attempting to do something on IPv6 but not being able to do it.
In spite of IPv6 being disabled at the kernel command line, /etc/hosts and /etc/ssh/ssh_config.

The end result being a 30s delay at boot.

Have a good week-end.

Best,

A.

Hello:

Seems it is: Desktop and Multimedia

Me thinks you may have not searched well enough.

https://www.google.com/search?q=xfburn+ … CA0&uact=5

The link above will get you 166 results.
You may want to check some of them out.  8^)

That said:
I have xfburn 0.5.5 on Devuan Beowulf with a backported kernel:

:~$ uname -a
Linux devuan 5.10.0-0.bpo.3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.13-1~bpo10+1 (2021-02-11) x86_64 GNU/Linux
:~$ 

What version of Devuan are you using?

The xfburn GUI starts up properly, would have to find a blank to test as I have not burnt a CD/DVD in a good while.

Is your device properly recognised?
ie: xfburn -> Edit -> Preferences -> Devices

Are the proper boxes ticked in the 'Detected devices' window?
ie: Write CD-R, Write CD-RW, Write DVD-R, Write DVD-RAM, Write Blu-ray.

At what point in the process do you get the error message?
Have you tested the burner with another application to rule out the hardware being the problem?

A.

Hello:

For the longest time more or less the same was said of Xorg-server.
But there it is, born again so to speak.

https://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/in … 1.1.tar.gz

Reminds me of reports of deaths being greatly exaggerated ...  8^D

This thanks to someone (Povilas Kanapickas) who stepped up.
And despite this dumb Python2 decision, I believe Wicd will also survive.

Apparently SLiM (ArchWiki) it is not fully compatible with systemd, including logind sessions.

It is an excellent example of Linux philosophy, I like it much more than any of the other DMs I have tried.
ie: lightweight, easy to configure, requires minimal dependencies and is independent of the DE: ticks all the boxes.

SLiM works for me on Devuan so that's what I use.
I recall that installing SLiM solved all the auth/log-in issues I was having in Devuan by not having a DM.

--> I think it should be the default Devuan DM.

I have read that GhostBSD 10.3 dropped GDM in favour of SLiM back in 2016 and is still there.
See http://www.ghostbsd.org/10.3_enoch

Hopefully someone will eventually step up and update it so it can be used with non-systemd distributions.

Use a systemd distro?
Then use one of those other bloated DMs.

If I cannot have it in the future, I'll just opt for not using a DM and see how I manage to work things out.

Best,

A.

Hello:

No.
Sorry if I was not clear.
Too early or too late, can't recall. 8^|

I had a long unused Devuan ascii (VBox) virtual machine on my U24 and managed to install Pi-Hole v5.6 on it.
I found a video on line with instructions on how to do it on Ubuntu Server (roughly same thing) and the run it as a recursive DNS server.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnFtWsZ8IP0

You have to watch it a few times to get a grasp of it, especially if you have not done it before but it is roughly all there.
The chap talks a bit fast, you'll have to do some stop/backwards with the video feed and strain your eyes a bit.

It does involve a no-no: an automated install script from the Pi-Hole website but you have alternatives if that makes you feel unsafe.

Installing Pi-Hole on Devuan ascii was quite straightforward although it is not a supported OS, you just have to override the initial OS check.
Instructions are on-screen when you run the script.

Then you have to install unbound for the DNS server bit.
Find it on the Devuan repository.

I then set the Devuan ascii virtual machine to start at boot and that's about it.
See https://pgaskin.net/linux-tips/configur … autostart/

A small side effect is that my box's boot sequence lags for a shortish while when the system starts the MTA.
This is due to a failed reverse DNS lookup that Exim4 is attempting at boot and happens because the DNS running on the virtual machine is not up yet.

Haven't found a suitable solution for that yet.

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EDIT I:
It's an exim4 caused problem.

Solution to that here: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4672
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As for how Pi-Hole works, it seems alright but there are quite a few things that require uBlock to remain in my browser (Pale Moon).
You Tube adds is one of them.

I still have to dive into Pi-Hole fine tuning, just a question of time.

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EDIT II:
Fine tuning was basically disabling the Pi-hole cache and letting the Unbound DNS do that job on the VM.

See: https://medium.com/nerd-for-tech/recurs … a766d4f703

As for You Tube ads, it seems that your best bet would be uBlock.
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Some things are supposed to be intercepted/sunk by Pi-Hole but they still show up as blocked by uBlock, have to do dome research on that.

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EDIT III:

The reason to that is that while Pi-hole just blocks requests to ads, uBlock still thinks that there are ads to be blocked, even though they were blocked by Pi-hole. Pi-hole can't modify the web site that you see, so it can't signal to uBlock that an ad is blocked.

The only way for uBlock to know that Pi-hole blocked an ad is to see if the ad's image/resources are missing.
Otherwise, uBlock sees that there's a match against their filter, even if it's already blocked, and tries to block it.
But that means it is blocking an empty element.
ie: already blocked by Pi-Hole.
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Thanks for your input.

Best,

A.

Hello:

+10
Because there is none.

But most important: the OPs original question has_already_been_answered (very wisely) by one of our admins.

As far as I am concerned, golinux's answer was more than enough.
What else was needed?

I cannot believe time and resources are still being wasted on this thread, three pages long and started eight months ago.

A thread to justify/question Devuan's existence and what it stands for?
Absurd.

A.

Hello:

This is what I have installed:

groucho@devuan:~$ apt list | grep installed | grep ud
--- snip ---
udev/oldstable,now 1:3.2.9+devuan4 amd64 [installed]
udiskie/oldstable,oldstable,now 1.7.7-1 all [installed]
udisks2/oldstable,now 2.8.1-4+devuan1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
groucho@devuan:~$ 

But none of these are listed as dependencies for PCManFM.

Now that I know what is going on, it is not much of a problem, but I do consider it to be a bug.

Thanks for your input.

A.

Hello:

Ahh ...
That accessibility.

Thanks for clearing that up for me.
So many things one takes for granted in life ...  8^|

Good to know.

The Devuan Package Information page shows this:

And the wicd home page says:

The previous entry in the Announcements was from 2014-12-21, almost seven years ago.
Seems more like a coma than deep sleep.

I'm in no hurry to leave Beowulf, so I can wait.

Thanks for the heads-up.

Best,

A.

Hello:

Bump ...

Posted to the PCManFM sub-forum at LXDE and the only answer received suggested I was probably posting to the wrong forum as Devuan Beowulf installs with Xfce and not lxde (!!!) and directed me back here.  8^D

https://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f= … e85d2bfbd0

Thanks in advance,

A.