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#1051 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Select only needed firmware » 2022-11-01 15:01:08
Official Devuan policy from https://www.devuan.org/os/install:
Non-free firmware packages are available on all install media. These packages will only be installed if required by your wifi adapter. To avoid the automatic installation and loading of needed non-free firmware, choose the Expert install option during the installation process.
The desktop-live and minimal-live images have non-free firmware packages pre-installed. These packages may be removed after boot using the remove_firmware.sh script available under /root.
#1052 Re: Off-topic » Google in trouble again » 2022-10-30 20:26:48
The human mode of production is equally at fault. This is the solution.
(also off-topic)
#1053 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Using debian repos for non systemd related packages? » 2022-10-30 05:09:23
golinux wrote:I'm not sure what your question is or even if there is one . . .
I think they're asking if it's possible to use both Debian and Devuan (unmerged)'s repos, with Devuan packages being at a higher priority. A possible usecase could be that the user is in a country where Debian has a faster and closer mirror than Devuan's, and want to use that as much as possible.
Thanks jobbautista9!
@recklessswing . . . There are 2 scripts as well as manual instructions on how to migrate from Bullseye to Chimaera on our install page. Perhaps something in those methods will be useful to you.
#1054 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Using debian repos for non systemd related packages? » 2022-10-29 22:48:57
I'm not sure what your question is or even if there is one . . .
#1055 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Chimaera install, encrypted root » 2022-10-26 17:46:06
Happy to hear that you got everything sorted. 
Now that you've got the BB code straightened out, feel free to edit your first post for readability.
#1056 Re: Devuan » Brave New Trusted Boot World » 2022-10-26 15:17:41
Digital incarceration will mean lots of dumpster diving for old hardware . . .
#1057 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Chimaera install, encrypted root » 2022-10-25 21:41:16
Secure boot turned on or off makes no difference to this.
The system boots. I just need to enter the crypt password twice.
I want to stop that.
Well, I have never used uefi so tried to explain something I don't understand that well so not surprising.
I used the code tags, but preview of the post didn't show any change.
There is a list of clickable tags on the "Post a reply" line. Just hilight and click the appropriate tag like this or
like this#1058 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Chimaera install, encrypted root » 2022-10-25 20:40:11
Welcome to the forum!
I just had a phone conversation with fsmithred who creates the live isos and he said that no one has gotten secure-boot to work. You can search for other posts on this forum. It should boot if you turn off secure-boot in the bios.
Suggestion . . . it would make your post easier to read if you used "code" tags. Thanks.
#1059 Re: Installation » Install ZFS » 2022-10-20 06:42:56
golinux wrote:Have you ever actually tried it?
To follow up on that, I just installed chimaera on a thinkpad X230, from the default live image, with refracta...
I really appreciate that you gave it a spin.
Seriously, I think I could write a better install process myself in zenity and bash.
Show us the code and maybe we'd use it!!! 
Remind me how this disaster is an improvement over d-i again?
Different strokes for different folks. It can be quite useful to test a distribution live before going through the hassle of installing. The installaion just copies files; no downloading needed unless you request it. Then with refractasnapshot you can create a live iso of your running installed system which is very handy for backup.
I could really do without all the networkmanager/pulseaudio/garbage-kit bloat TBH.
Are you sure that pulseaudio is installed? I have been running Devuan since 2015 and pulseaudio has never been installed. apulse gets the job done quite nicely. IIRC that is the default even for the installer isos. I don't need networkmanager because I am always wired and with a window manager, I'm pretty sure you can get rid of all the polkit stuff . . . All of that objectionable stuff would be installed with the default desktop even using the installer iso so your complaints are a bit of a thud . . ..
#1060 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2022-10-17 03:58:01
Amazing tabla and bansouri:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2K0ptoYpuc
#1061 Re: Installation » Install ZFS » 2022-10-15 03:02:14
Choice is, on the other hand, the reason I moved away from Debian, and the reason I'm steadily moving away from binary distros in general. Primarily, that's the choice to not install 500lbs of crap I don't want or use.
And you have that choice installing with either the netinstall or the mini-iso. Even CD 1 of the 4 CD set should get you a very minimal install.
Anyway, this is horribly off-topic. Maybe if the OP replies someday...
Yeah . . . I may split it off a bit later . . .
#1062 Re: Installation » Install ZFS » 2022-10-15 00:59:36
@steve_v . . . Isn't choice the point of free software? The desktop-live installs a default Xfce desktop using the refractainstaller. Nothing more. Nothing less. All the descriptions on the website and elsewhere say exactly that so you shouldn't have expected it to do anything else.
The Refracta derivative is customized with different options that make it Refracta based on Devuan.
#1063 Re: Installation » Install ZFS » 2022-10-14 20:13:20
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:Refracta
On that note... Any particular reason we're moving to that (unmentionable, IME) thing instead of using the venerable debian-installer? I mean, we kinda have a serviceable wheel already, no?
Refracta has been around for AGES. Here's one of the first posts brought up in a search from 2009-05-07 on FDN.
could always try http://refracta.org/ it truly is debian with a slimmer and lighter default install
Refracta has been the default live installer for Devuan since jessie.
Refracta snapshot and installer are invaluable tools for sooo many users. Have you ever actually tried it?
refracta.org has been up for a long time and many derivatives of various Linux distros use it. I use refractasnapshot to create a backup image in case things go south.
My current installation is based on the refracta version of chimaera (no install recommends and other nice defaults). Yeah, I'm a fan . . .
#1064 Re: Other Issues » No Sound ALSA » 2022-10-07 19:19:45
My old Intel Haswell needed an .asoundrc file to sort the 2 chips on the board. Maybe that's an option? Or more likely this is just noise and apologies for that . . .
#1065 Re: Other Issues » No Sound ALSA » 2022-10-06 23:03:23
@tux . . . Thanks for the edit. Do you have apulse installed? Needed when pulseaudio is removed. Not sure of the details.
#1066 Re: Other Issues » No Sound ALSA » 2022-10-06 19:03:26
Please use "code" tags. Legend is available above the edit window.
#1067 Re: Off-topic » Your thoughts on: TheCaseForTheUsrMerge » 2022-10-05 22:02:37
Default in Devuan has been not to merge but Debian may close the door to the freedom to choose.
#1068 Re: Off-topic » Xfce 4.18 at Christmas » 2022-10-02 04:12:10
The fix doesn't fix all of it unfortunately.
#1069 Re: Off-topic » Xfce 4.18 at Christmas » 2022-10-02 00:24:53
What happened with the new release of Xfce? The CSD? They added an option for CSD to be turned off in the settings menu.
More GTK3 more intractable CSD more skinny bars It's turning into a less usable and fuglier cluster**** . . . IMO of course . . .
KDE gives me the willies - can't put my finger on it, but again, I have tried to 'like' it, but it just doesn't mesh with me, or something. Just too much. Hard to articulate.
Over a decade ago I once installed KDE 3. When the first animated, bouncing icon popped up, I was so out of there. Even then it was bloated . . .
#1070 Re: Off-topic » Xfce 4.18 at Christmas » 2022-09-30 15:37:37
OMG I hope not. That time of year is depressing enough . . .
#1071 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] netselect-apt output » 2022-09-24 23:24:17
@amc252 . . . FYI this is how Devuan package mirrors are built.
#1072 Re: Other Issues » Where to report a serious tcsh globbing bug? » 2022-09-19 01:32:32
Looks like that is a Debian package so you will need to report the bug to Debian directly.
#1073 Re: DIY » Linux ports of OpenBSD's ksh » 2022-09-17 01:27:01
@HoaS . . . Sorry for the OT but I have to ask . . .
Have you been to view Queen yet?
#1074 Re: News & Announcements » Welcome to wiki.devuan.org! » 2022-09-14 14:18:58
EDIT:
New user registration is disabled on this site.
I don't think that will help....
ATM the wiki needs savvy admin(s) to get it up and running. Only then will it be useful for contributors and users to register . . . 
#1075 News & Announcements » Welcome to wiki.devuan.org! » 2022-09-14 01:48:59
- golinux
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Did that get your attention? Good . . .
The wiki has been languishing in the doldrums for some time in a rather unusable state but it could become a reality if some Wiki Whisperers would step up to make it happen.
If anyone here has experience with Foswiki or other wikis, this is your moment to shine!
Once it is in a usable state, we will need a team of contributors to begin populating pages with content sourced from the forum, mailing lists, IRC, personal experience etc.
Devuan users . . . the ball is squarely in your court. Will Devuan have a wiki? It's up to YOU!
Discussion on #devuan-wiki, dev1galaxy.org and our mail lists.
Now . . . . just where are those Wiki Whisperers . . .
Come join the Devuan wiki team!
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