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#76 Re: Installation » How to partition my disk ? » 2021-09-16 07:20:41
Thunderbird stores mail in the home directory of each user. Suppose your user name is Lizzy, it stores mail in
/home/Lizzy/.thunderbird/<random>.default/Mail
But that's just the local IMAP cache, no?
My understanding is, if I don't want to use my email providers gmx, 1and1 to host my emails, I need an IMAP server.
Previously, I ran that on a local server.
I want all emails, my 15 years' IMAP emails and all new ones from different email addresses in one place.
#77 Re: Installation » How to partition my disk ? » 2021-09-15 21:41:25
Thanks for the quick reply.
I used to use ClawsMail.
The mail is stored at /var/mail ?
No separate partition?
#78 Installation » How to partition my disk ? » 2021-09-15 20:59:32
- Élisabeth
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This is my first installation, so I really don't know what the best set-up is for me.
I have a Lenovo ThinkPad T550. 16GB memory, 500GB hard disk.
I will have some external software like Firefox.
One thing I don't know how to handle yet is email: I used to have a home network with a server where all the email was downloaded. Now I just have the one laptop.
I have a backup of 15 years of IMAP email. And I really want to access that again. And start downloading my emails again rather than using Webmail.
#79 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-14 20:56:03
Stupid question: why not proceed with my Debian USB inserted? I can boot Devuan and through the installation menu and make my choices. Do you think my Devuan USB won't be suitable for the actual installation ?
I just want to get rid of this Windows shit and recreate what I had before my revious Linux laptop died.
#80 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-14 20:50:37
Just found something in a German laptop forum about rufus and Secure Boot: rufus does not write a valid Secure Boot signature. That means in your case rufus isn't the right tool.
That'll be why this is the only burn tool that returns the Secure Boot error with netinstall.
I'm impressed - you're multi-lingual.
#81 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-14 17:11:41
Yeah, I mentioned Rufus early on. Seems it got lost in the confusion,
It did indeed.
But here you go:
[which image + USB] | [which write method] | [result]
Chimeara netinstall | AnyBurn, dd-Windows, copy/paste | no error, no load, BIOS re-presents Select Boot Device screen
Chimeara netinstall | Rufus | Secure Boot Access Denied error
Chimeara netinstall + Debian | AnyBurn, dd-Windows, Rufus, copy/paste | BIOS loads Devuan installation menu
The Rufus created USB behaves differently but doesn't boot on its own either.
#82 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-14 16:16:25
As described in this post, I can boot from a Chimeara netinstall USB if Debian is plugged into another USB port.
When I select to boot from USB the BIOS Select Boot Device sceen does not give me the choice which USB to boot from. It chooses one of them automatically, and which one depends on which slot they're in. So it was pure chance that I discovered that I can boot Devuan netinstaller when Debian is plugged in also.
Stupid question: why not proceed with this ? I can go through the installation menu and make my choices. Do you think this USB won't be suitable for the actual installation ?
#83 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-14 15:53:10
[...]
Possibly you can use the diskpart command, then select the USB disk and use the sub command list partition.
After using dd there's only one partition on the USB stick:
N° partition Type Taille Décalage
------------- ---------------- ------- --------
Partition 1 Principale 14 G 31 KThe Windows file system cannot recognize the files on the USB stick.
However, I can boot from it as described in point 5. of this post.
The Debian USB stick also has only one partition.
#84 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-14 10:29:24
As discussed at https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/USB_fl … ion_medium using dd for windows you should probably use a od argument rather than of so as to tell the program to write to the whole drive; otherwise it merely writes to the first partition.
Thus, it may look like this:dd if=devuan_chimaera_4.0.beta-20210906_amd64_netinstall.iso od=\\.\f
The version of dd I downloaded doesn't have an od command. I get an error.
#85 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-14 09:43:51
sorry about editing your post.. must be tired...
No problem. I just nearly overlooked it.
Ok. so AnyBurn is no good, then.[...] dd-windows uses the name "partition0" for the whole disk
I tried dd as well.
dd if=devuan_chimaera_4.0.beta-20210906_amd64_netinstall.iso of=\\.\f:I can boot from this (and AnyBurn) if and only if the Debian USB is present.
PS: once we get there, can I ask questions about partioning on the forum?
#86 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-14 09:36:55
bcdedit /enum osloader Chargeur de démarrage Windows
-----------------------------
identificateur {current}
device partition=C:
path \WINDOWS\system32\winload.efi
description Windows 10
locale fr-FR
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {4fb97112-89ea-11eb-86f7-fd30943e1855}
displaymessageoverride Recovery
recoveryenabled Yes
isolatedcontext Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \WINDOWS
resumeobject {4fb97110-89ea-11eb-86f7-fd30943e1855}
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard
Chargeur de démarrage Windows
-----------------------------
identificateur {4fb97112-89ea-11eb-86f7-fd30943e1855}
device ramdisk=[\Device\HarddiskVolume1]\Recovery\WindowsRE\Winre.wim,{4fb97113-89ea-11eb-86f7-fd30943e1855}
path \windows\system32\winload.efi
description Windows Recovery Environment
locale fr-FR
inherit {bootloadersettings}
displaymessage Recovery
osdevice ramdisk=[\Device\HarddiskVolume1]\Recovery\WindowsRE\Winre.wim,{4fb97113-89ea-11eb-86f7-fd30943e1855}
systemroot \windows
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard
winpe Yes#87 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-14 09:28:07
ralph.ronnquist wrote:AnyBurn has the "Burn image file to disc" button to master a USB stick from an ISO file, and if you used that, then the USB stick is mastered correctly.
I used Create bootable USB Drive with the HDD option.
No, that's not the right thing. Doesn't it have the "Burn image to disc" option? All else will try to mess with the image.
How did this repsonse get into my post ?
AnyBurn has this option. But it can't be used for USB. I immediately get an error: Aucune unité de gravure detectée (no engraving unit detected)
#88 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-14 06:27:46
AnyBurn has the "Burn image file to disc" button to master a USB stick from an ISO file, and if you used that, then the USB stick is mastered correctly.
I used Create bootable USB Drive with the HDD option.
No, that's not the right thing. Doesn't it have the "Burn image to disc" option? All else will try to mess with the image.
#89 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-13 16:41:10
@Élisabeth, the ISO file is supposed to be put onto a USB memory stick to reside from the physical block 0 and up on the USB. Copying onto a partition is not the right way.
I absolutely agree. I just tried this tip out of despair.
But, if you look at my post point 4, the PC does not boot from the Devuan USB regardless of whether I use dd, AnyBurn or copy, unless the Debian USB is in the other slot.
#90 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-13 06:00:28
It looks like I don't need to disable Secure Boot now. I definitely won't be screwing with the laptop myself.
I've used a Linux desktop for 15 years but never done a system installation. Hence it had been suggested to me to use desktop-live.
I'm sure I'll need help with the netinstall here. It's my only PC.
#91 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-12 22:21:17
I just had an unexpected miracle when trying a variation of booting with both the Debian + Devuan USB sticks.
With both sticks plugged in I selected USB on the BIOS Select Boot Device screen, which gives no choice of USB drive when multiple are plugged in. The blue screen came up, I thought I was looking at Debian, but no, I did a double take and it said Devuan !!!!
What was different ? - This was Chimaera netinstall, created with copy/paste.
(By copy/paste I mean: Format USB as FAT32, then copy paste the contents of the image via drag & drop.)
A recap of what I have tried :
[which image + USB] | [which write method] | [result]
Beowulf desktop-live | AnyBurn, Unetbootin-windows, dd-Windows | Secure Boot Access Denied error
Chimaera desktop-live | AnyBurn, Unetbootin-windows, dd-Windows, copy/paste | Secure Boot Access Denied error
Chimaera desktop-live + Debian | copy/paste | BIOS loads Debian, grub: Secure Boot refuses to load Devuan
Chimaera netinstall | AnyBurn, dd-Windows, copy/paste | no error, no load, BIOS re-presents Select Boot Device screen
Chimaera netinstall | Rufus | Secure Boot Access Denied error
Chimaera netinstall + Debian | AnyBurn, dd-Windows, copy/paste | BIOS loads Devuan installation menu
Just to be clear: The only successful attempt requires the Debian USB to be plugged in but it is not loaded or used in the process.
I have not yet attempted the actual installation.
#92 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-12 17:44:54
Élisabeth wrote:In the meantime I have found out that the BIOS Superuser password of the PC is set[...]
Asking the seller isn't an option? At least give it a try.
No, bought it a long time ago.
#93 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-12 09:11:34
The above link gave me a 404 error, try this link
https://www.cocosenor.com/articles/comp … aptop.html
Ralph, Camtaf - thank you. Will try tonight.
#94 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-12 09:10:08
I booted from a Debian USB into grub and tried to boot Devuan in the other USB drive:
I entered the command usb, which returned the following error: Secure Boot forbids loading module from (hd1)/boot/grub/x86_64-efi/usbtest.mod
Does anyone know why Secure Boot rejects the above ?
#95 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-12 07:35:36
the BIOS Superuser password of the PC is set, which prevents me from disabling Secure Boot.
So I have three options:
Disable Secure Boot. I must first unset the password by removing the CMOS battery.
...
I have been warned on the Lenovo forum that removing the battery won't clear the password and risks blocking me out of the PC.
#96 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-12 07:32:27
Hi
I do not know if the following video is relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw_ZNgEn874 . Apologize if not. Is CSM disabled ??
...
Lars H
I can't change the BIOS settings because the BIOS is password protected.
#97 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-11 23:05:56
In the meantime I have found out that the BIOS Superuser password of the PC is set, which prevents me from disabling Secure Boot.
(I bought the PC secondhand.)
So I have three options:
Disable Secure Boot. I must first unset the password by removing the CMOS battery.
Find a way to boot Devuan.
Use Debian.
#98 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-11 22:38:45
Sorry OP, my posts in this thread are irrelevant — I failed to read through the thread properly before answering and didn't appreciate that you're trying to boot a USB stick rather than an installed system.
Apologies for the noise.
But thank you for trying to help.
Just unlucky that my first installation is fraught with so much difficulty.
#99 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-11 17:16:57
The equivalent command under Windows would be
bcdedit /enum bootmgr
identificateur {bootmgr}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume2
path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
description Windows Boot Manager
locale fr-FR
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {4fb97110-89ea-11eb-86f7-fd30943e1855}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30
#100 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] USB image - Access Denied error » 2021-09-10 21:57:59
A couple things that I would try. I have no idea if this would work.
Try booting a debian-live usb with a devuan usb also plugged in. Get to the grub menu and boot the devuan usb from grub command-line.
If that works, you might be able to install devuan and install a minimal debian to be in charge of grub and boot devuan from that.
OK, I'm trying this. But I have a couple of roadblocks to solve.
I tried to search for the other USB drive using the root command, which wasn't found.
It's also a bit of a pain that it doesn't recognise my French keyboard.
I entered the command usb, which returned the following error: Secure Boot forbids loading module from (hd1)/boot/grub/x86_64-efi/usbtest.mod
I also found an article on Debian How to boot from USB when the BIOS doesn't allow it.
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