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That's what those are ! NEAT -that'll make it much easier
I usually just use a simple text editor
url MrGreenJeans.net has a Mate version !!!
what formatting tools - this text came from 'geany' editor
the add new post didn't indicate to me any....
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whoa - I just clicked on the ? [url tag: on and got a whole new page of formatting info !!!!.
okay, I'll give it a shot.
I had been asked to make a short (condensed list)
Thanks for the 'go ahead'
GZ
created new post "ASCII-install notes"
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@fsmithred - my focus of this original post is that there is no 'devuan-ascii.list'
golinux refers to it in post "How to update to ascii?" comment #7 - caused @keos many posts
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the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.list file does contain ascii information
started with the CD installer - Jessio-1.0.0
graphical install selected from the boot up menu
no network connection selected - (just needed basickernel/files to update to the ASCII version)
grub installed -- rebooted
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LOGGED IN AS ROOT (which some say not to do - but sudo not avail IIRC)
' with the 'default session' not the single panel
/etc/apt/sources.list modified (via nano)
# the cd source out
added ONLY deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii main
did an apt-get update (only-not the usual 'upgrade')
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apt-get install syslog-ng-core syslog-ng BTW-(this removes rsyslog!!)
[this will do 13 upgrades & 39 new installs files]
**!!!open the details window as there is a list of messages and
**!!! at the prompt : -I just did a 'q' ;not knowing the source of the messages
told it to automatically restart the services as needed
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apt-get install synaptic [38 upgraded 29 new installs files]
** keos was having trouble with Synaptic upgrade so I tried it**
!!!open the details window as there is a list of messages and
!!! at the prompt : -I just did a 'q' not knowing the source
(you may notice several theme path errors for 'clearlook')
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fwiw-(Synaptic had scrunched text in menu bar/ missing button outlines)
NOW I added to /etc/apt/sources.list [via nano I am still user 'root']
deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates main
deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-security main
launched Synaptic (from menu tree) and clicked on the <Reload> button
opened up the 'details' window - 3 sources listed - loaded 0K 113K 0K
clicked on the <Mark all upgrades> button (214 new 563 upgrade 8 remove)
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it downloaded some files and appeared to hang (no disk activity)
!!!open the details window as there is a list of messages and
!!! at the prompt : -I just did a 'q' ' not knowing the source
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about 20 minutes later it looked like it hung - BUT it was finished
closing details window resulted in a - POPup a 'sandbox' error message
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** uname -a reports still at 3.16 kernel
attempted to 'Reboot' - [from the menu] just got a logout/login - did a 'root' user login
NOW I was able to do 'Reboot' [from the menu]
** uname -a now reports 4.9.0-3 kernel !!!!!!
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launched Synaptic , did a <Reload> button
'details' window shows 0k 113k 0k 0k 6997k 7154k [6 repositories !]
!! the additional (automagically added) were the 'packages'
!! and nothing to reported to upgrade
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******************** ISSUES (will create bugs if I can pinpoint error)******************
CD wouldn't open from front panel button - needed the filemgr to 'eject'
Thunar 1.6.11 reported as mounting, then .../media/cdrom was busy!!
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VLC played ONE time as a normal user - (then tried as 'root')
wouldn't even open up the application after the one time
NO Sound/audio output from CD / web-browser (pulse-audio nothing showd!)
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loaded (viaSynaptic) alsa-player-common & depends
this showed a data stream from CD but NO audio/sound
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bash couldn't find 'nano' (I wanted to copy the 'sandbox' message)
bash was looking in /usr/bin/nano - it was at /bin/nano [per 'which' command]
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Synaptic no longer has scrunched text !!!
**********that's it folks - for what its worth
the terminal "apt-get" way to install might be better
- used user 'root' as 'sudo' was not avail
keos - I think your 'minor' to a 'big' problem may have stemmed from some Ubuntu software
in your original system - there was a reference to 'Ubuntu drivers' errors
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I've always started with a Devuan package from the git-go, not an update from a Debian Jessie.
From what I have recently read - Ubuntu is a highly-modified Debian.
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This might ease some of the pain/frustration you have had with the ASCII upgrade.
Regards
Several times during some of the comments in installing/upgrading to ascii - there is a reference
to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan-ascii.list.
I only find a 'devuan.list' there and its contents are: (after an upgrade)
# autogenerated by devuan-baseconf
# decomment following lines to enable the developers devuan repository
#deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii main
#deb-src http://packages.devuan.org/devuan ascii main
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this may explain how 'packages' got imported into Synaptic when I did an ASCII upgrade from
Jessie1.0.0 (installer iso 64bit)
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I can make a long post - its about 3 pages of stenographers notepad sheets if someone wants it.
Tomorrow, as I am going to work now.
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HTH
I too believe it can grow into a mature product - Debian didn't just spring up!
I am pretty sure that there are some bugs at Debian.
We have Gentoo, Slackware, ArchLinux that all server different users
AND NOW we have Devuan giving us back our freedom - but it does cost.....
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2 cents
keos / all -- fsmithred talked out removing rsyslog -- per an ubuntu link-> https://askubuntu.com/questions/713325/ … og-ng-core
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which I followed the first part --> sudo apt-get install syslog-ng-core syslog-ng
[this also removed rsyslog]
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next step is.......
I inserted @fsmithred's last 'sources.list' comment
did a 'sudo apt-get update' then a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
loaded 600+ packages - maybe 40 minutes.
did a reboot and away I go
[BTW this all started from the 64bit 'installer' iso - a little lean!!]
Which forums (plural) are you referring to? the dev1galaxy and possibly the discourse.devuan.org?? I was under the impression hellikin(sic) was dropping the
maintenance of it.-- so it would be a historical record from now on.
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I am new at IRC, but is someone monitoring the d-dev channel ? 24 hours - or is it logged so I can drop a line and check back later or leave my email?
I ask because I went to the #d1g-users several times and found no one (I assume)[could have been my drum-roll entrance!]
TIA for any light you may shed --(OR others)