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Yes, and one thing that is confusing with ALSA is that programs typically loads the sound configuration only once, early during startup. Therefore such a change to the configuration only takes effect for programs that are started after the change.
There is a way to make a configuration have a dynamic part, to be automatically reloaded upon every sink (or source) creation instead, but then we are entering a deeper level of understanding of ALSA configuration structure and elements which most people rather wish to avoid.
@igorzwx: this dance is getting tedious. Please don't push me to use the "Ban User" dialog.
Hmm I have a /.cache with two sub directories
drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Jun 17 01:15 mesa_shader_cache
drwx------ 52 root root 4096 Jun 17 01:15 mesa_shader_cache_dband then some directory tree down to pairs of files. All of that created and modified at that one time. Presumably mine belongs to some "mesa" package.
Have you checked your package pinning"
slower than what?
So you are saying that sway+wayland on devuan (of some version) is or seems to be noticeable slower than something else on something else? ...???
Obviously one must ask: what on what was the baseline? And in what way do you notice that loss in speed?
What do you get from rfkill ? (you might need to install it).
Did you try
find /usr /var /etc -name '*90?alsa?restore?std*'The file is somewhere.
You should also check
dpkg -S 90-alsa_restore_stdto see where it comes from.
@rwall, add some double-quotes, and make that line 17 be
if [ ! -e "${RC_SVCDIR}/softlevel" ]; thenand then you won't have that problem (at least).
I don't understand how you get to http://mirror.mephi.ru/devuan/devuan/di … backports/ from your sources.list ... and what relevance that has here
I'm (also) using the same list:
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports main contrib non-freeand don't have any problem.
# apt-get update
Get:1 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports InRelease [26.5 kB]
Get:2 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main all Packages [176 kB]
Get:3 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main amd64 Packages [408 kB]
Get:4 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/main Translation-en [370 kB]
Get:5 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera InRelease [33.5 kB]
Get:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security InRelease [26.6 kB]
Get:7 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates InRelease [26.1 kB]
Get:8 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/contrib all Packages [2632 B]
Get:9 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/contrib amd64 Packages [6216 B]
Get:10 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/contrib Translation-en [6345 B]
Get:11 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/non-free all Packages [4936 B]
Get:12 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main amd64 Packages [8310 kB]
Get:13 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/non-free amd64 Packages [14.7 kB]
Get:14 http://archive.devuan.org/merged chimaera-backports/non-free Translation-en [32.2 kB]
Get:15 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/main Translation-en [6476 kB]
Get:16 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/contrib amd64 Packages [50.7 kB]
Get:17 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/contrib Translation-en [46.9 kB]
Get:18 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/non-free amd64 Packages [98.3 kB]
Get:19 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera/non-free Translation-en [91.4 kB]
Get:20 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages [392 kB]
Get:21 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/main Translation-en [281 kB]
Get:22 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/contrib amd64 Packages [2908 B]
Get:23 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/contrib Translation-en [2722 B]
Get:24 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/non-free amd64 Packages [1200 B]
Get:25 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/non-free Translation-en [1274 B]
Get:26 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates/main amd64 Packages [17.9 kB]
Get:27 http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates/main Translation-en [10.8 kB]
Fetched 16.9 MB in 23s (731 kB/s)
Reading package lists... DonePerhaps remove all files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ and then try apt-get update again.
(I assume "freer" is a misspelling)
I can't replicate the problem, but an access timeout may have many reasons.
Does the "same thing" happen every time?
I'm trying to setup a test; would you mind show your sources.list, as well as the apt configurations (in /etc/apt/apt.conf /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*)?
How about we leave this thread here (without me actually closing it) as there is no value in adding opinions here one way or the other. If I get inspired I'll weed it and retain the technical matters for later.
It might look odd, yes; there is Translation-en.bz2 in devuan while there is Translation-en.xz in debian. However that's the same for other (non-archived) codenames as well.
Do you get a complaint with apt-get update?
Yes chimaera-backports came back. I think it got removed when bullseye-backports got removed; then bullseye-backports came back; and then after a while chimaera-backports came back. And during all that bullseye and chimaera also got archived. All done very much on purpose by Debian and Devuan "repository dev's"; I'm sure there is a story.
Perhaps it stays like it is for a while.
Yes.
Print it out, frame it and hang up on the wall.
Then you can show your kids and grand kids how adults do things.
@steve_v: you still here? And you still contribute to the discourse?
You are too kind.
It looks like there you have a task to volunteer for.
Well, at least half the population is above average IQ...
I wouldn't worry about that until it fills up; then removing old kernels is the first step. Though generally it may also be a good idea to keep a "live installer" USB stick on the shelf.
Hmm, yes I only have two kernels with their initrd, each pair being 12+32 Mb, so again, I don't understand what they refer to. That's standard Debian kernel+initrd adding up to 44 Mb each. So if you need more than 10 of them you might be in trouble.
EDIT: perhaps if you want lots of pre-pivot software it will enlarge initrd, and perhaps that'll then grow above 100Mb.
I'm not sure what that issue is about; my excalibur boot directory is 100 Mb, though also not a separate partition. I think 487 Mb is plenty and it's certainly fine as a raw partition.
EDIT: I also have an EFI partition with <5 Mb bootloader (grub), which gets mounted as /boot/efi.
@marma-lade: did you by chance opt for "expert" install, and then skipped the "load additional components" step?
Yes, it should be fine like that. Of course any dkms modules might play up.
I've also seen that some people have issues with their windowing programs with excalibur, but that's more of a post-upgrade concern.
And some, like me, might prefer
Binary::apt::APT::Color "false";