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#78 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Firefox not starting on new Devuan installation (with gnome desktop). » 2024-01-11 14:59:03

Under Gnome create your own .local/share/applications/firefox-esr.desktop
It can look something like this:

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Firefox ESR
Name[bg]=Firefox ESR
Name[ca]=Firefox ESR
Name[cs]=Firefox ESR
Name[el]=Firefox ESR
Name[es]=Firefox ESR
Name[fa]=Firefox ESR
Name[fi]=Firefox ESR
Name[fr]=Firefox ESR
Name[hu]=Firefox ESR
Name[it]=Firefox ESR
Name[ja]=Firefox ESR
Name[ko]=Firefox ESR
Name[nb]=Firefox ESR
Name[nl]=Firefox ESR
Name[nn]=Firefox ESR
Name[no]=Firefox ESR
Name[pl]=Firefox ESR
Name[pt]=Firefox ESR
Name[pt_BR]=Firefox ESR
Name[ru]=Firefox ESR
Name[sk]=Firefox ESR
Name[sv]=Firefox ESR
Comment=Browse the World Wide Web
Comment[bg]=Сърфиране в Мрежата
Comment[ca]=Navegueu per el web
Comment[cs]=Prohlížení stránek World Wide Webu
Comment[de]=Im Internet surfen
Comment[el]=Περιηγηθείτε στον παγκόσμιο ιστό
Comment[es]=Navegue por la web
Comment[fa]=صفحات شبکه جهانی اینترنت را مرور نمایید
Comment[fi]=Selaa Internetin WWW-sivuja
Comment[fr]=Navigue sur Internet
Comment[hu]=A világháló böngészése
Comment[it]=Esplora il web
Comment[ja]=ウェブを閲覧します
Comment[ko]=웹을 돌아 다닙니다
Comment[nb]=Surf på nettet
Comment[nl]=Verken het internet
Comment[nn]=Surf på nettet
Comment[no]=Surf på nettet
Comment[pl]=Przeglądanie stron WWW 
Comment[pt]=Navegue na Internet
Comment[pt_BR]=Navegue na Internet
Comment[ru]=Обозреватель Всемирной Паутины
Comment[sk]=Prehliadanie internetu
Comment[sv]=Surfa på webben
GenericName=Web Browser
GenericName[bg]=Интернет браузър
GenericName[ca]=Navegador web
GenericName[cs]=Webový prohlížeč
GenericName[de]=Webbrowser
GenericName[el]=Περιηγητής ιστού
GenericName[es]=Navegador web
GenericName[fa]=مرورگر اینترنتی
GenericName[fi]=WWW-selain
GenericName[fr]=Navigateur Web
GenericName[hu]=Webböngésző
GenericName[it]=Browser Web
GenericName[ja]=ウェブ・ブラウザ
GenericName[ko]=웹 브라우저
GenericName[nb]=Nettleser
GenericName[nl]=Webbrowser
GenericName[nn]=Nettlesar
GenericName[no]=Nettleser
GenericName[pl]=Przeglądarka WWW
GenericName[pt]=Navegador Web
GenericName[pt_BR]=Navegador Web
GenericName[ru]=Интернет-браузер
GenericName[sk]=Internetový prehliadač
GenericName[sv]=Webbläsare
X-GNOME-FullName=Firefox ESR Web Browser
X-GNOME-FullName[bg]=Интернет браузър (Firefox ESR)
X-GNOME-FullName[ca]=Navegador web Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[cs]=Firefox ESR Webový prohlížeč
X-GNOME-FullName[el]=Περιηγήτης Ιστού Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[es]=Navegador web Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[fa]=مرورگر اینترنتی Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[fi]=Firefox ESR-selain
X-GNOME-FullName[fr]=Navigateur Web Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[hu]=Firefox ESR webböngésző
X-GNOME-FullName[it]=Firefox ESR Browser Web
X-GNOME-FullName[ja]=Firefox ESR ウェブ・ブラウザ
X-GNOME-FullName[ko]=Firefox ESR 웹 브라우저
X-GNOME-FullName[nb]=Firefox ESR Nettleser
X-GNOME-FullName[nl]=Firefox ESR webbrowser
X-GNOME-FullName[nn]=Firefox ESR Nettlesar
X-GNOME-FullName[no]=Firefox ESR Nettleser
X-GNOME-FullName[pl]=Przeglądarka WWW Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[pt]=Firefox ESR Navegador Web
X-GNOME-FullName[pt_BR]=Navegador Web Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[ru]=Интернет-браузер Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[sk]=Internetový prehliadač Firefox ESR
X-GNOME-FullName[sv]=Webbläsaren Firefox ESR
[b]Exec=/usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr %u[/b]
Terminal=false
X-MultipleArgs=false
Type=Application
Icon=firefox-esr
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;
MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xml;application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml;application/rss+xml;application/rdf+xml;image/gif;image/jpeg;image/png;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;
StartupWMClass=Firefox-esr
StartupNotify=true

The advice from @Nietz should give you the correct Exec= PATH (/usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr).
My suspicion is that dear Gnome per default uses another path. And that is its own fault.

#79 Re: Devuan » Debian Farm? » 2024-01-02 12:29:53

Good article!!! Must read!

(one letter missing in the link above. correct link here: https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/27/ … post_open/ )

#80 Re: Devuan » Debian Farm? » 2024-01-01 07:45:32

I've been using Linux since 1997 and the last 10-12 years Linux only. No MS, no dual boot. When Ubuntu went to Unity I used Xfce instead. My last Ubuntu was 18.04 and I really got mad at systemd when it took over DNS-resolving too. It really slowed down DNS look ups and hence surfing. My five machines now run Devuan all, and I'm happy. I do not meet any restrictions in my daily usage in my DAW or when gaming or whatever.

So I really really hope Devuan can live on and stand as an example of free thinking and individuality.

#81 Off-topic » Happy New Year! » 2023-12-30 16:45:36

swanson
Replies: 3

Yes, Happy New year and a BIG thanks to all the devs of Devuan! Devuan is a fresh and shining bright light! Devuan is a beacon on the dark seas!

Again, a big thank you to all developers and moderators!

CYA!

Regards,

Mr Svensson, Sweden.

#83 Re: Devuan » Malicious Programs, and Malicious People On Devuan » 2023-12-24 21:53:55

Since Esleeps last thread I learnt a new word in english - "vapid" . Very good word!

Esleep - go to sleep.

#84 Re: Installation » Installation from daedalus desktop-live boots to GRUB Rescue » 2023-12-22 02:17:10

I guess Daedalus now is more picky than Chimaera on this topic.

That's seems to be true. Or, the instructions aren't very clear here, or they are too directed towards UEFI systems. I've used Linux for years but I'm still not used to UEFI and I do not do dual booting with windows either.

In this case, no EFI, no ESP with FAT32 is required. The ESP is useless in such a case.

Yeah, but it seemed to me that Chimaera used those flags and formats too.

#85 Re: Installation » Installation from daedalus desktop-live boots to GRUB Rescue » 2023-12-21 19:54:41

Just encountered this today again when installing on an older machine. Non UEFI. No luck with Daedalus desktop image after three tries to partition the disk with recommended Gparted, GPT, EFI, ESP and FAT32 plus install the bootloader and all. Just no boot.

So, downloaded Chimaera and let that installer to everything and it seems to do exactly what's recommended in the Daedalus installer. GPT, FAT32 and ESP and all. And it boots!

Would be interesting to know the differences between the two install scripts.

However, I've seen some other threads here with the same issues with Daedalus and it's a bit worrying actually. I mean, one argument for switching to linux is to revive older machines. And then there are these issues.

But, a clean install of Chimaera is very easy to immediately upgrade to Daedalus. And there are excellent instructions on devuan.org on how to upgrade.

#86 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Games. Counter Strike 2 On Steam » 2023-12-19 09:08:02

Yeah, using Linux Steam leaves you almost on your own. But I've found a good place at the Proton GitHub. Here:

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues
There you can find more info on the Shader Cache problem and several workarounds.

There are also another line of Proton you could try, it's the "GE"-line. Those versions can be downloaded and manually copied to the steamapp directory.  I'm running those for some months now.

#87 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Daedalus nvidia borkage with nvidia-driver 525.147.05-4~deb12u1 » 2023-12-19 08:53:12

Good to know! I was holding off updating one of my machines. Thanks!

EDIT: just updated and it seems to be working 100% Kernel 6.1.0-16-amd64 and Nvidia version: 525.147.05

Yayy!

#88 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Games. Counter Strike 2 On Steam » 2023-12-18 07:43:25

There were some problems here too with slow building of shader cache - every startup. But in my case I could disable it. Supposedly there is some minimal lag sometimes when the game is starting but I haven't noticed much.

#89 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Games. Counter Strike 2 On Steam » 2023-12-17 07:54:22

I play World of Warships on Devaun/Steam/Nvidia and it works very nicely. So I'm following this thread too! Good Luck!

#90 Re: DIY » Announcement of the OpenMATE desktop environment » 2023-12-16 19:05:02

Good job! I'm into Xfce but I've used Mate before too. Mate is nice and your goals are the best!

#91 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Strategies to deal with .xsession-errors » 2023-12-04 19:48:34

Think I finally found the right way to rotate .xsession-errors and save a copy too.
It is to use this script:

#!/bin/bash
for i in {9..1}; do
    if [[ -f /home/$USER/.xsession-errors.${i} ]]; then
        mv -f /home/$USER/.xsession-errors.${i} /home/svensson/.xsession-errors.$((i+1))
    fi
done

And in Xfce autostart run it as script at shutdown. At boot doesn't work since the file won't be written to. For some reason.

#93 Installation » Success! Upgraded to Daedalus again. » 2023-12-01 09:23:46

swanson
Replies: 0

Just upgraded my second machine to Daedalus from Chimaera with good results. I followed the procedure from here:
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … o-daedalus

But before starting that I disabled third party sources temporarily.

Everything seems to be in working order. smile smile

Thank you Dev-team!

#94 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2023-11-27 11:36:20

I'm reading a biography of George Orwell ("1984"). "The Ministry of Truth" by Dorian Lynskey. Really good! Generally biographies gives you a lot of history of the times concerned in the book. This book writes about circa 1880-1950 and touches the Spanish civil war, several other big authors of the time like H.G. Wells, just to mention one. As you might already know Orwell/Eric Blair partook in the civil war in the trenches of Spain. 

The book 1984 might be hot even today with all the Big Tech and polarization going on in society. But I do not know if I can stand re-reading it right now. The future doesn't seem too promising, I think. smile

#96 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Upcoming browser changes » 2023-11-23 04:01:26

golinux wrote:

Their shinny new shackles might be more appropriate . . .

smile

It might be time to read George Orwell's "1984" again...

#97 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Upcoming browser changes » 2023-11-22 19:03:15

"ad-blockalypse " is the word! I've just these couple of weeks changed to Firefox from Chrome on my main Devuan machines. This thread is really interesting and I'll follow it closely. I really really hope some open source will survive Big Tech and their shiny new clothes.

#98 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Strategies to deal with .xsession-errors » 2023-11-22 09:11:36

Made the above posted script as an init.d script instead. But beware, this init script runs the actual script as normal user - which is NOT recommended. Tested this and it works. The reason is that sometimes when an x session is running and the .xsession-errors file gets rotated, it won't be written to again. So running it at shutdown or reboot should work better.
Script:

#!/bin/sh

### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: /home/$USER/bin/logrotator for .xsession-errors
# Required-Start: $syslog
# Required-Stop:  $syslog
# Default-Start:  0 6
# Default-Stop:   3 4 5
# Description: Rotate .xsession-errors as user $USER, creates backups. Should run at shutdown only without X
### END INIT INFO

#. /lib/lsb/init-functions

case "$1" in
  start)
	touch /run/logrotator.pid
	chmod 600 /run/logrotator.pid
	chown $USER:65534 /run/logrotator.pid
	sudo -u $USER /home/$USER/bin/logrotator
	;;
 stop)
	killall logrotator
        ;;
  *)
        echo "Usage: $SCRIPTNAME start" >&2
        exit 3
        ;;
esac

Actual script (home/$USER/bin/logrotator):

#!/bin/bash
for i in {9..1}; do
    if [[ -f /home/$USER/.xsession-errors.${i} ]]; then
        mv -f /home/$USER/.xsession-errors.${i} /home/$USER/.xsession-errors.$((i+1))
    fi
done
mv -f /home/$USER/.xsession-errors /home/$USER/.xsession-errors.1
touch /home/$USER/.xsession-errors
##Might not be needed:
chown $USER:$GROUP /home/$USER/.xsession-errors

Edit $USER and $GROUP to taste.

PS. As you can see, I do not know what I'm doing, so don't try this at home.

#99 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Strategies to deal with .xsession-errors » 2023-11-20 13:14:01

Altoid wrote:

Hello:

In my opinion, there's no need to keep .xsession.errors files.

They are generated every time the xserver is started and the last one is appended to the previous one, which is why it can grow to huge sizes.

....
That said, even with that setup, much if not all of the information shown is of no value to the average desktop user.
ie: not a maintainer/developer.

In my case, practically all of it is made up of (endessly repeating) Gtk-WARNING entries for which the only solution would seem to be some fix in a future version of Gtk (?).

Agree, but scripting is fun for an amateur. And once in a while the xsession-errors might be a saviuor. (every Blue Moon maybe) smile

#100 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Strategies to deal with .xsession-errors » 2023-11-20 08:26:26

Oops! On my other Devuan machine .xsession-errors was 830MB!!! But I thought I share my findings for a solution of the growing file size (not the errors smile )

Create a file like this in /etc/logrotate.d/my-xsession-errors

$HOME/.xsession-errors {
missingok 
notifempty 
copytruncate
compress  
weekly  
rotate 5
}

This will rotate the file weekly and keep 5 old files. Edit to your needs.

EDIT: added copytruncate because sometimes when the .xsession-errors file get renewed, it is not written to anymore (in that session).

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