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Tried to install the devuan_chimaera_4.0.beta-20210906_amd64_netinstall.iso in a Virtualbox VM in efi mode. Got two issues.
1.) The Devuan isos do not boot in VBox efi mode. My solution was: unpack the iso into a folder, add the EFI directory from a Debian iso, and create my own iso with Brasero. That boots directly.
2.) efivarsfs isn't mounted on the boots past installation. Added the following line to fstab, and now I have the efi variables available.
efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars efivarfs rw 0 0I think both topics deserve a look at.
rolfie
I can confirm that you can install Chimaera in EFI mode. I have performed such an install from I think the alpha net install end of April on an Acer Aspire 5. You may find one or the other thread from me around that time.
Suggestions:
- If you can disable SecureBoot.
- Set the Bios to no CSM, efi driver first, whatever the Bios allows. If in doubt, ask here.
- Make sure you boot your install media in efi mode. When booting, you will usually find your devices twice. Make sure you boot the one that is marked as efi. If not the install runs in legacy mode.
- To verify that the installer is in efi mode, switch to a console as Ralph has suggested, and make sure you have a directory /sys/firmware/efi/efivars. If this isn't present, you are not installing in efi mode.
- grub is installed in efi mode without asking where to. Thats normal.
- After first boot you should have a folder /boot/efi/EFI/debian. In there you should see 5 or 6 files, one of them called grubx64.efi (non-secure boot), another called shimx64.efi (I hope the name is right, I never did a Secure Boot installation and usually delete all related stuff) for secure boot plus some others.
- Check with efibootmgr if you get an output or an error telling you that efi isn't supported?
- I had an issue with that after first boot the efivars were not loaded. I think mounted them, re-installed grub-efi-amd64 and then it worked. Don't know if this still is an issue. Refer to my older threads.
Good luck, rolfie
Evolution
How stable/unstable is Chimaera for everyday use?
I have switched my home network completely to Chimaera. 2 PCs, a file server, a laptop.
rolfie
Virtualbox 6.1.26 now is available from Orcale directly as .deb. Can be installed via dpkg -i name.deb
rolfie
From https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf … _notes.txt:
Pulseaudio
- If you install a desktop environment from the installer iso, you will
automatically get the debian-pulseaudio-config-override package,
which will ensure that pulseaudio is running. If you're running a
window manager, you may need to install the override package to get
sound. Alternatively, you may use the old method, described below.
- If you have no sound, make sure the following line in
/etc/pulse/client.conf.d/00-disable-autospawn.conf is commented as
shown here:
#autospawn=noMaybe this helps.
rolfie
Thanks, looks like my problem has been reported already: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=983285, unfortunately for arm64. I'll try to add that this is a general probbem.
rolfie
Got 4 PC (one rarely used still on ASCII, one on Beowulf, two multiboot PCs now mainly working with Chimaera for productive work), a file server (upgraded from Beowulf) and a laptop with native Chimaera (set up in April). They all are encrypted, the system always sits on a encrypted LVM, the /home on a separate encrypted drive. On some of them other encrypted drives are loaded by an entry in the crypttab or via a separate script. Everything works very smooth and nice.
I use Chimaera now on all PCs that my wife and me work with regularly. Its rock stable. Very few glitches.
Lets us know details where you stumbled or had issues. Since an encrypted LVM is not absolutely straight forward, maybe its worth to try the basic setup in a VM?
rolfie
Updated my fileserver and my wifes PS from Beowulf to Chimaera on the weekend. Both with openrc. During both upgrades lots of "missing LSB tags" messages were presented.
Does it make sense to write a bug reprot to Devuan?
rolfie
Thanks for the heads up, I was looking for such a script and did not find anything useful by the means of Nemo (Cinnamon desktop). In fact there is a cgroups script in /etc/init.d without a LSB header. Here are the first few lines:
#!/sbin/openrc-run
# Copyright (c) 2017 The OpenRC Authors.
# See the Authors file at the top-level directory of this distribution and
# https://github.com/OpenRC/openrc/blob/master/AUTHORS
#
# This file is part of OpenRC. It is subject to the license terms in
# the LICENSE file found in the top-level directory of this
# distribution and at https://github.com/OpenRC/openrc/blob/master/LICENSE
# This file may not be copied, modified, propagated, or distributed
# except according to the terms contained in the LICENSE file.
description="Mount the control groups."
cgroup_opts=nodev,noexec,nosuid
depend()
{
keyword -docker -prefix -systemd-nspawn -vserver
after sysfs mountkernfs
}
....Script by the openrc team. Worth a bug report?
rolfie
Short update: this script is not present under Beowulf/openrc/Cinnamon
Not sure, but it rang a bell. In any case, lsb-release is installed as well as under Beowulf as under Chimaera which is running productive for a while right now. My boot nicely displays Devuan/GNU Linux. No issues there.
Though: I have polished os-release a bit:
PRETTY_NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux 4 (Chimaera)"
NAME="Devuan GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="4"
VERSION="4 (Chimaera)"
ID=devuan
ID_LIKE=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.devuan.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://devuan.org/os/community"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.devuan.org/"I thought names need to be Caps for nice English, at least when displayed.
Though I don't think its an issue, did a similar thing under Beowulf already. Must be something else.
rolfie
Dual boot system running Beowulf/Chimaera, both with openRC. Have Virtualbox 6.1.24 as deb from Virtualbox.com downloaded and installed with dpkg -i on both Beowulf and Chimaera. I first discovered the issue under Chimaera while compling the kernel modules for VBox. But its not limited to VBox, it also happened lately while installing some updates.
On Chimaera, I am getting reproduceably:
insserv: warning: script 'cgroups' missing LSB tags
insserv: Default-Start undefined, assuming empty start runlevel(s) for script `cgroups'
insserv: Default-Stop undefined, assuming empty stop runlevel(s) for script `cgroups'
insserv: warning: script 'cgroups' missing LSB tags
insserv: Default-Start undefined, assuming empty start runlevel(s) for script `cgroups'
insserv: Default-Stop undefined, assuming empty stop runlevel(s) for script `cgroups'
insserv: warning: script 'cgroups' missing LSB tags
insserv: Default-Start undefined, assuming empty start runlevel(s) for script `cgroups'
insserv: Default-Stop undefined, assuming empty stop runlevel(s) for script `cgroups'
insserv: warning: script 'cgroups' missing LSB tags
insserv: Default-Start undefined, assuming empty start runlevel(s) for script `cgroups'
insserv: Default-Stop undefined, assuming empty stop runlevel(s) for script `cgroups'while Beowulf is running fine.
What is missing under Chimaera?
rolfie
Interesting, thanks. Are these 'parts' logical volumes?
In my case, no. I have 3 encrypted partitions for the fixed data, volatile Beowulf and volatile Chimaera.
The main system is an encrypted LVM for / and swap.
As fsmithred I have opened LVM shares to fix problems with live systems like Knoppix or the rescue mode of a boot medium often enough to say that I never had any issues.
rolfie
Sharing a LVM logical volume should work fine without any problems as long as its not used for distribution specific configuration data. LVM2 is mature, and there should be no major difference in the LVM implementation between distributions. Booting into one or the other should not matter for a data storage, and as long as you use a mature file system like ext4 on the share.
I have split my /home for my multiboot setup with Beowulf and Chimaera into a partition that holds all office data like pictures, LO files etc, and a distribution specific part that holds all the hidden config and cache files. The office share is linked into the distribution specific part during boot.
rolfie
There are https mirrors available, refer to https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan.
Nevertheless, the sources.list should look like described in https://www.devuan.org/os/packages.
No matter if you use http or https, the checksums of the individual packages ensure that they are safe.
rolfie
I have created my own root terminal according to this description: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2717. This ends up in /root as working directory. The example is for Mate, but it also works with Cinnamon/Gnome terminal.
I guess you can easily set the path to /.
rolfie
Very strange problem. What was your intention? Just install Chimaera with XFCE as desktop? Or did you want to install several DEs?
I have done various Chimaera installations by now, and have not experienced such problems. Well, I usually do a cli install and then after a reboot do install either Mate or Cinnamon manually. Nevertheless, to do that I have to untick the default selections.
On page https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … all-devuan there is a nice guide including screenshots of all the relevant installer pages. Please refer to topic 17. I think the screenshot misses the tick for XFCE as default. I usually just leave the standard system utilities ticked and do the rest manually.
My guess: you may have ticked more than one DE. This may go along with several Window Managers. There is a list somewhere which DE per default uses which WM. For Mate and Cinnamon I happily use LightDM.
rolfie
The problem isn't related to the Deepsea theme, it has something to do with that grub starts before / is being decrypted/available for access.
Fix: please read this thread https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3679
rolfie
Chimaera and Cinnamon/Lightdm with Deepsea: no issues.
rolfie
Meta package linux-image-amd64 not installed?
rolfie
Please also post your sources.list. The wifi chip may need non-free firmware. Please execute and post here.
cat /etc/apt/sources.listrolfie
Tim Anderson @TheRegister wrote:At the time of writing*, the packages for Debian 9 (Stretch), which is end of life but in long term support, had not yet been updated.
That would be valid for ASCII, not for Beowulf/Buster.
rolfie
First of all compare data sheet read/write speeds of the NVMEs. I would guess the new large one is faster than the internal one.
I just replaced the 256G NVME WD Blue in my Aspire 5 against a 1T Crucial P5. It makes a difference.
rolfie
I think I should install a firewall on my laptop, since it will be used in open networks connecting via wifi. This is a new situation for me. My desktops at home do not have a firewall installed, I rely on the one in the DSL modem and the ethernet router behind that. So far I never had any issues.
What is a recommendable firewall with an easy way to enable for wifi traffic? Is UFW/GUFW good enough and state of the art?
Thanks, rolfie