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LOL! Thanks γραφω λογον...I appreciate your support, but keep in mind...
1. Miyo is Devuan and uses only Devuan repositories...
2. While I've ventured into other desktop environments for Miyo, I don't think I'll ever produce a Miyo-Fluxbox or Miyo-JWM. However, both Crowz and Star do offer those desktops. ![]()
γραφω λογον,
I salute you! Thank you for all that you did...your support of MiyoLinux was more than I could have hoped for. I will see you around elsewhere...whether openly or in the void. Take care my friend. ![]()
Hi Mr. Bean.
Just to be sure, I downloaded the 32 bit version and installed it. I ran all updates, rebooted, and all of the shutdown options are working...so I'm not sure what could be the problem.
You might try reinstalling obsession-logout to see if that helps...not sure if it will. I'll give an alternative at the end of this post.
I don't think that font warning should have anything to do with it; however, it appears that the .font.conf file is causing a problem. I tried running obsession-logout from the terminal, and I got the same message as you (even though all of my shutdown options are working). I then looked in the ~/.config/fontconfig/ folder, and that file already exists there...so I just deleted the .fonts.conf file from the Home folder. After doing that, I tried it all again, and the error message was gone.
If you're unsure how to do that, just open your file manager. Right click on an empty space, and choose "Show hidden files". Then look for the file called .fonts.conf and click on it one time to highlight it. After highlighting it, click on Edit in the tool bar and then click Remove.
As to Docky...I mentioned earlier that what you're experiencing is a well-known and long-standing bug with Docky. I don't know a fix for it...sorry. Perhaps someone else here may know of one? If so, please feel free to post it! ![]()
The application gmrun is in the 32 bit version and 64 bit versions that I downloaded...it's one of the items at the top of the right-click menu, but it's named as "Run command". Try clicking on that, and a small window will open in the center of your screen. Type in the word docky, and hit Enter on your keyboard, and Docky should start again. Sorry that I couldn't be more help with that problem.
Now...if fixing that font error and reinstalling obsession-logout doesn't help, here's a possible fix for you...it may not be what you prefer, but it will at least hopefully get you back to being able to Shutdown, reboot, etc. This is actually the method that I included with Miyo-i3, and I'm considering using it in future versions of MiyoLinux...haven't decided yet though. Anyway...
Edited to add: before anything else...let's try something first. The following command should reboot your computer, so only do this when you're ready to try a reboot. If this works, then proceed with the rest of the instructions...
Open your terminal, and copy and paste the following command to see if it will reboot your computer...
dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit" /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.Restart...then hit Enter on your keyboard.
If that rebooted your computer, proceed with the following instructions.
Open the right-click menu, and go to...
Advanced > Obmenu-Generator > Menu Schema
When that opens, scroll to the bottom of the file, and you should see these lines...
## This uses the 'oblogout' menu
{item => ['obsession-logout', 'Exit', 'exit']},
]Now...put your cursor at the end of the line...
{item => ['obsession-logout', 'Exit', 'exit']},
...and hit Enter on your keyboard. That should put a space between that line and the ] symbol below it. So it should now look like this...
## This uses the 'oblogout' menu
{item => ['obsession-logout', 'Exit', 'exit']},
]Now...in that empty space that you just created, copy and paste the following into it...
{begin_cat => ['Exit', 'exit']},
{item => ['openbox --exit', 'Logout', 'gnome-logout']},
{item => ['dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Hibernate', 'Hibernate', 'gnome-session-hibernate']},
{item => ['dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit" /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.Restart', 'Reboot', 'gtk-refresh']},
{item => ['dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit" /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.Stop', 'Shutdown', 'gnome-shutdown']},
{end_cat => undef},MAKE SURE THE...
]
...SYMBOL IS BELOW THOSE LINES! ![]()
So, the bottom of the Menu Schema file should now look like this...
## This uses the 'oblogout' menu
{item => ['obsession-logout', 'Exit', 'exit']},
{begin_cat => ['Exit', 'exit']},
{item => ['openbox --exit', 'Logout', 'gnome-logout']},
{item => ['dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Hibernate', 'Hibernate', 'gnome-session-hibernate']},
{item => ['dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit" /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.Restart', 'Restart', 'gtk-refresh']},
{item => ['dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest="org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit" /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.Stop', 'Shutdown', 'gnome-shutdown']},
{end_cat => undef},
]Save and close the file.
At this time, you will have two exit options in your right-click menu. The ones that we just added requires you to hover your mouse cursor over the word Exit, and it will give you the following options...
Logout
Hibernate (I didn't check, but you might have to install the package called hibernate if you use this)
Reboot
Shutdown
Clicking on any of those options will immediately go into effect...If they work, and you're happy with that, then you can open that same file again, and comment out the other original Exit option...just put a # symbol in front of the following line...
{item => ['obsession-logout', 'Exit', 'exit']},...so that it looks like this...
#{item => ['obsession-logout', 'Exit', 'exit']},Then save and close the file again, and you'll only have the new Exit options in your menu.
This may not be your preferred answer, but hopefully it will help as a last resort.
...because I'm a professional, and take all of this seriously...
Okay. I downloaded and installed Miyo XTRA Jessie. Upgraded it to Ascii and rebooted.
No menu as expected. ![]()
Tried the first of the two terminal commands given in the Release Notes...and it failed. ![]()
Tried it again, and it failed. That sent me ballistic, and I was about to go into total demolition mode... ![]()
...but then...
I realized I hadn't connected to the internet after the reboot. ![]()
Connected to the internet, ran the two commands, and the menu was back. ![]()
Hi Miyo
Why would default be grayed out if using the right icon theme, like say papirus light or just papirus?
Papirus and Papirus Light are icon sets intended to be used with light colored system themes. So, if your system theme was say...Adwaita, your lxpanel or Xfce4 panel would be a light color. Then the volume icon would be seen normally if using Papirus/Papirus Light icons. Then that brings up the ability to change the background colors of those panels instead of using the default system theme...LOLOL!!!
I'm downloading an XTRA Jessie now. I'm concerned about losing the menu and the instructions not working, so I'm going to test it again.
Okay. Hmmm...
Oh no...did the instructions not work (that I gave in the Release Notes) regarding how to fix the menu if a user upgrades to Ascii (by issuing two commands in the terminal)?
I'm only asking, because if the directions that I gave in the Release Notes don't work now for some reason, I'd like to know. ![]()
During my testing, I tried upgrades to Ascii several times, and the instructions worked each time.
I'm just glad to hear that you got it back though! ![]()
...and I hate to be the bearer of bad news (?) , but I just uploaded Ascii versions to Sourceforge. DOH!!!
Thanks again! Take care!
HEY! I don't remember putting that wallpaper in Miyo?
LOLOLOL!!!
That looks absolutely great! Excellent!
Thank you for the report, and I see you regained the right-click menu after upgrading. ![]()
I see your volume icon is a little dark from changing the icon theme. If you're not happy with that...and you may already know this...but if you right-click on the volume icon, and choose Preferences, you can change its Icon Theme. It's set as "Default" to match whatever Icon Theme the system is using, but there are a few others to choose from. I always change mine to "White Gnome" so that it's always white on my dark panels.
Thanks again Panopticon, I do appreciate your report, and I hope you enjoy using it. ![]()
Miyo XTRA Ascii is now available if anyone is interested. ![]()
Two thirsty chemists walk into a bar.
One chemist says to the bartender, "I'll have a glass of H2O". He drinks it down and is very satisfied.
After seeing how happy the first chemist is, the other chemist says, "WOW! I'll have a glass of H2O too!" He drinks it down and is sent to the Emergency Room.
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Sorry for cutting in fsr, but I wanted to report...
I'm writing this from a freshly installed Miyo-XTRA-Ascii 64 bit, and the keyboard shortcuts in question are working on it too...so both 32 bit and 64 bit versions are producing the desired effects as to the keyboard shortcuts that fungus has pointed out. At this time, I'm not sure why they don't work on Jessie builds of Miyo.
I have a little more testing to do, and if all goes well, I will upload the new XTRA-Ascii versions to Sourceforge sometime tomorrow...IF! LOL! ![]()
Thanks for pointing this out fungus. As I said...I'm not much of a keyboard-shortcut user, so I would have never noticed this in my testing. I guess that shows a shortcoming in me and my "developer status"... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! ![]()
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More weirdness, the same stick I installed miyo32extra I had left at work upgrading to ascii
When I went to it today I noticed the alt-f wasn't a problem.
The original installation was done on the same machine that 32 wouldn't let alt-f work and 64 was ok.
Now is the different hw the difference or did the upgrade to ascii fix the problem?
The upgrade was taking so long I just let it run and left.
I also noticed that refracta-installer was on the list to be upgraded, check your version before next issue.
Installed Miyo-XTRA Ascii 32bit on my old Sony Vaio today, and all of the questioned shortcuts are working on it.
As normal, I left that one particular screen alone during the installation.
I've almost finished the 64 bit version of XTRA Ascii...the shortcuts worked on the build and during the live session of the first 64 bit .iso that I made of it. I'll be interested to see how it fares after I'm finished with it and actually install it.
I'm using the installer-base and snapshot-base versions included in the Ascii repos on the XTRA Ascii versions that I'm making now. ![]()
This came up on the 32b and I did the 64 from scratch.
There is a point in refractainstaller right after lang/locales that asks about a key which I interpreted as the key combination to switch keyboards. I think it is an alternative to windows key to be remapped to a combination for keyboards not having that windows key (the one between ctrl/alt)
So I left it alone this time and the problem is gone.
So it may be my fault but what exactly is this in refra-ler-gui?
Okay...I'm a bit perplexed.
1. Those shortcut keys work for me when I'm building Miyo.
2. I've always left that screen "blank" when I install Miyo. In other words, I don't apply anything...I just move past it.
3. Those shortcut keys don't work after installing Miyo.
You said that you "left it alone, and the problem is gone"; however, I always leave it alone, but only noticed those keyboard shortcuts don't work after you mentioned it here...I'm not really a keyboard shortcut user myself. If you left it alone, and I've always left it alone...but they still aren't working for me...I'm bumfuzzled. LOLOLOL!!! ![]()
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...and just for good measure...
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You should be more concerned about Palemoon's licensing than Devuan's. Though MX may have taken care of that for you.
Now see...when I look at stuff like this, I want to have a nervous jerkdown.
Devuan encourages Devuan-based distros. ![]()
Out of curiosity, I tried those keyboard shortcuts while I was building the latest Miyo-XTRA Ascii 32 bit. They worked during the build. I didn't think to try it after I installed it. ![]()
@miyolinux
The Miyo-XTRA-ascii isos from October have an older version of eudev which has a higher epoch number than the current version. This causes problems on upgrade. You should make new isos when you get a chance.
Yea! I've been working on it, and I'm now writing this from the new 32 bit version of Miyo-XTRA Ascii. ![]()
I was VERY pleased to see that there was no pause during the boot process while it was searching to connect to a network...makes me want to hurry up and start on the 64 bit! LOLOL!!! Hopefully, that will start tomorrow or the day after...wish I could start right now.
Again, I apologize to anyone who tried the older Ascii .isos and ran into the eudev problem.
Altoid,
Do you have gksu installed?
If so, can you open the terminal and enter...
gksu linssid(not sure if that's the right command...use whatever command you used with su)
Does it work that way?
If it does, you could change the Exec= command for it in /usr/share/applications
Exec=gksu linssid
(or gksu "whatever-the-command-is")
Mr. Bean,
(one of my favorite characters!)
I don't know if I can help much.
The issue that you described with Docky is a well-known bug, so it's not specific to Devuan. I remember seeing some work-arounds found online for Ubuntu that involved making some scripts, but when I tried them on Devuan about a year ago, they didn't work. In the end, I found it easiest to just open gmrun and enter...
docky...to quickly get the dock back again. I know that's not your preferred method, but that's what suited me. Someone else may have a better answer.
As to the problem with Shutdown...
After reading your post, I downloaded the 64 bit version of Good Life Linux Openbox. I ran all updates...I used...
apt-get dist-upgrade...because I knew there would be a newer kernel. That .iso is pretty old. I rebooted, and the Shutdown option is working perfectly for me...so I'm not sure what could be the problem. Here's my suggestion...open your terminal and enter...
obsession-logoutWhen the GUI opens, click on Shutdown...does the terminal give any information?
Okay...I figured out why the terminal in i3 wasn't showing me the dependency errors. I had a brain jerkdown last night and forgot what I did in the Openbox trial installation.
I made a very...VERY basic Openbox installation to test it on. I didn't have anything but the basic right-click menu. So what I did was open PCManFM with the terminal from that menu. That terminal was the one that I left open, and it was that terminal that was showing me the dependency errors.
Once PCManFM was open, I navigated to the Downloads folder and opened a terminal there to make the MuseScore .appimage executable. Then, everytime I clicked on the .appimage to try and open it, the original terminal would show me the dependency error(s).
I just now removed one of the dependencies for the .appimage in i3 and tried it following those steps, and it worked the same. The original terminal showed the missing dependency.
This isn't ideal, but if anyone reads this thread because you're having trouble opening an .appimage in MiyoLinux, follow these steps...
1. Open your terminal and use it to open PCManFM
Leave that terminal open.
2. Navigate to the .appimage and open another terminal in that folder to make it executable
I also right-clicked the .appimage and changed its Execute permission to Anyone
3. Double-click the .appimage
You'll be asked if you want to Execute it. Click Execute.
4. The original terminal will show you the missing dependency
It may show something like...
/tmp/.mount_VwG71Z/bin/mscore-portable: error while loading shared libraries: libpulse.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directoryThe "libpulse.so.0" is the missing dependency. However, the leading "libpulse" is what is needed to be installed. I used Synaptic to search for and install each dependency. For example: libpulse0 was the name of the actual dependency as shown in Synaptic.
With MuseScore, it took 5 dependencies...I had to click the .appimage 5 times to find each one. After finding and installing the dependencies, it opened. WHEW! ![]()
Sounds like a lot, but it only took a couple of minutes...if that long.
Edited to add: I went back and edited my original instructions in case a reader doesn't make it this far in the thread. ![]()
Thanks fungus.
That's a great idea about including the Pale Moon installer script...but I wonder if I can do that legally. Would I have to get their permission to include it? I'll look at their website and see if there's any information on it.
When you say "ob-gen and that linux-desktop command", are you saying the command didn't fix it? It worked every time I tried it in my testing.
I'm going to try this on Miyo-i3 just to make sure it works. I'll report back with more definitive dependency names and the order that they appeared during the process.
devuan_dk_fan,
OY! i3 doesn't work like Openbox as far as showing me the missing dependencies! ![]()
Now I remember why Openbox is my first choice with i3 second. LOLOLOL!!!
I didn't get the "errors" in i3's terminal like I did in Openbox. However, here are the dependencies (and the few items they pull in) that you'll need to install according to how they are shown in Synaptic...
libvorbisfile3
libsndfile1 (this will actually pull in the third "libvorbis" dependency)
libpulse0
libxslt1.1
liborc-0.4-0
After installing those dependencies (I used Synaptic), the MuseScore .appimage will open in i3.
Make sure to read my post above about the possible need for PulseAudio...
Now I have to figure out why i3's terminal doesn't show the errors like the Openbox terminal...
I'm going to try this on Miyo-i3 just to make sure it works. I'll report back with more definitive dependency names and the order that they appeared during the process.
No worries
I always use the latest MuseScore AppImage partially because I sometimes run into dependency issues, partially because MuseScore has a MIDI issue that has been dogging them for a long time, that they don't seem to be able to stamp out. Sometimes when playing a score, there is a lot of static/feedback noise that makes it unbearable to listen to what you have written, which kind of is the point of MIDI playback in the first place
BTW, I would like to advertise another posting of mine on the forum, that I am not getting any response on:
"Vanilla KDE Jessie Devuan system prompts for USB pen drives." I still haven't been able to figure that one out yet, and now I am testing a vanilla KDE Jessie Devuan install both on a laptop as well as on a home built tower computer, so it would be nice to get it sorted.
devuan_dk_fan,
I just got the MuseScore Appimage to work in the Openbox version of MiyoLinux. It should work in the i3 version too. Here's what I did...read all of this before proceeding.
VERY IMPORTANT: OPEN PCMANFM WITH YOUR TERMINAL, AND LEAVE THAT TERMINAL OPEN DURING THE WHOLE PROCESS.
1. I downloaded the .appimage and made it executable by opening another terminal in the Downloads folder and used the command...
chmod u+x MuseScore*.AppImageJust to be sure (since I've never used an .appimage before, I right-clicked the .appimage, went to properties, and changed the Execute permissions to "Anyone".
I then double clicked the .appimage. The open terminal showed me the initial error. I was missing libvorbis something-or-other. That's what was throwing me off a few days ago, because it was showing something like libvorbis.so.3 (don't quote me on that). When I searched previously for those items from the list you provided, I was searching for libvorbis.so.3...that's why nothing was showing up for me when I searched the other day.
2. I opened Synaptic, and I searched for libvorbis.
I was given a result. Unfortunately, I didn't pay attention initially, because this was all hit-n-miss for me. Here are the items that are now installed with libvorbis in their names...I can't remember which one I initially installed, but the other two were pulled in with it.
libvorbis0a
libvorbisenc2
libvorbisfile3
3. Double-clicked the .appimage, and got another error of a missing dependency. This happened 3 more times (a total of 5 times). Each time, I searched Synaptic for the leading verbage of the missing dependency. Here's what I installed in addition to the libvorbis item(s)....
libsndfile1
liborc-0.4-0
libpulse0
libxslt1.1
After installing those dependencies, I double-clicked the .appimage, and it opened. ![]()
I didn't go any further to see if it would play, because I don't know a thing about it
. MiyoLinux doesn't include PulseAudio by default, so if you're still on Miyo-i3, you may have to install PulseAudio or try Geoff 42's tip.