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#751 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browsers won't launch » 2023-08-27 01:02:00

Well then you can ignore the link I just added above. If you are used to gnome, carry on. Hope you can get things working and sorry for the noise . . .

#752 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browsers won't launch » 2023-08-27 00:42:48

Charon795 wrote:
golinux wrote:

What desktop did you install? FF should be installed by default.

When installing the system, instead of Xfce, I chose to install Gnome.

Why? I never could figure out the gnome3 desktop. That's when I stopped using it a very long time ago. So sorry, can't help except to mention the Mate desktop which uses gnome2.

I will drop here a link from over 10 years ago for your reading pleasure big_smile:
GNOME (et al): Rotting In Threes

#753 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browsers won't launch » 2023-08-27 00:26:10

Did I misread something again . . . sigh . . .

This is what confused me because I have no idea what that means:

I tried to install through the Chromium terminal . . .

What desktop did you install? FF should be installed by default.

#754 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Browsers won't launch » 2023-08-27 00:17:47

Installation of packages is handled by apt either via the command line or the synaptic package manager. Have you read this page?

https://www.devuan.org/os/packages

#755 Re: Devuan Derivatives » New Vendefoul Wolf Re-spin | Devuan 5 » 2023-08-26 22:24:18

vendefoulwolf wrote:
golinux wrote:

Welcome to Devuan! While I appreciate your contribution, I am puzzled by the title.  I have no idea how to pronounce it, can't remember how to spell it so not in my memory bank and "Vende" as in the French verb "Vendre" which means "to sell" has me confused as to your intentions. Please enlighten me. Thanks!

The intentions are to spread and propagate Devuan, the name occurred to me while watching a movie about wolves... just like that.

Did the AI write that non-answer also? LOL! I surrender . . .

#756 Re: Devuan Derivatives » New Vendefoul Wolf Re-spin | Devuan 5 » 2023-08-26 16:28:35

Welcome to Devuan! While I appreciate your contribution, I am puzzled by the title.  I have no idea how to pronounce it, can't remember how to spell it so not in my memory bank and "Vende" as in the French verb "Vendre" which means "to sell" has me confused as to your intentions. Please enlighten me. Thanks!

#758 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Devuan Ceres - X not starting at kernel 6.4 + 340.108 driver » 2023-08-26 02:25:30

Well . . . your English is better than my Ukrainian and we can understand what you are trying to say. Thing is that if information related to your installation is misspelled, our search engine won't be able to find solutions to any problems you might solve. Just a bit more attention would be really appreciated. Thanks. smile

#759 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Daedalus Nvidia-Xorg logout black screen » 2023-08-25 21:26:37

I don't remember seeing firmware-misc-nonfree before.

According to https://www.devuan.org/os/packages you should have these in your sources.list:
non-free-firmware, non-free and contrib

I'm probably missing something . . . sorry for the noise.

#760 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Devuan Ceres - X not starting at kernel 6.4 + 340.108 driver » 2023-08-25 19:17:17

@deepforest . . . There is no "Deadalus" at Devuan (or anyplace else afaik).

PLEASE stop posting erroneous technical information on this forum and correct your previous spelling errors that might confuse other users. I am tired of cleaning up your mess.

Then . . . learn how to spell DAEDALUS correctly so our search engine will find the actual Devuan distribution to which you are referring.

Thanks for helping to make this forum a more accurate resource for other users.

#761 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] "Powered by Devuan" icons? » 2023-08-24 17:11:20

The-Amnesiac-Philosopher is not so amnesiac, it seems. LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#762 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] "Powered by Devuan" icons? » 2023-08-23 17:38:59

Thanks for doing that! Why didn't you put them in Devuan's git? Pulling out the two I prefer and adding them to the git art section is still on my list . . . smile

#763 Re: Devuan » Can anyone fill me in on why and how exactly systemd took over Linux? » 2023-08-23 03:24:26

@neilgunton . . . My comment was related to execution rather than content as it was rather structured analysis that didn't get sidetracked. zapper can often be whimsical and a bit silly too. He is like family.

As to your question . . . This forum does have a search function. smile

You might also want to look at The dev1galaxy.org (almost) No Code of Conduct.

#764 Re: Devuan » Learned something new about devuan, after foolishness » 2023-08-23 03:04:44

zapper wrote:

I have never even seen debian or devuan say this LOL.

First sentence of the third paragraph on:
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … o-daedalus
Note that skipping releases is not supported.

zapper wrote:

Although, its probable I just didn't do enough research.

You think?

#765 Re: Devuan » Can anyone fill me in on why and how exactly systemd took over Linux? » 2023-08-23 02:57:15

@zapper . . . that has to be one of your best posts ever!

#766 Re: Devuan » Can anyone fill me in on why and how exactly systemd took over Linux? » 2023-08-22 19:30:38

Oh well . . . maybe someone else will wake up to the idea of becoming part of the solution . . .

#767 Re: Devuan » Can anyone fill me in on why and how exactly systemd took over Linux? » 2023-08-22 19:05:18

neilgunton wrote:

How long before they work out ways to exclude Devuan from being able to decouple systemd? I'm sure it's in the works.

That may end up depending on how many elves there are in the workshop. Devuan has been a labor of love for many of us but we are a small team that could use more hands on deck. Sadly folks love to USE Devuan but not many donate their time and talent(s) to help create it so the bus factor looms. We need redundancy and a new generation of creatives to keep Devuan on track. Care to dive in?

#768 Re: Devuan » Can anyone fill me in on why and how exactly systemd took over Linux? » 2023-08-22 18:38:17

neilgunton wrote:
golinux wrote:

OT: Open letter to the Linux World
Date: Tue Aug 12 2014 - 15:35:49 EST
https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/ker … 02496.html

Systemd: The Biggest Fallacies by Jude C. Nelson
https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2018/03/26/186/

General Resolution: init system coupling
https://www.debian.org/vote/2014/vote_003

Combatting revisionist history
2015-02-25 20:23
https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=120652

Lots of good stuff in these links, thanks very much! One line that jumped out at me in the final article, "there was no debate". Very interesting how these things can happen, they creep in and before you know it, it's a fait accompli. Too late to do anything about it now! Oh well! Kind of reminds me of some other things that have happened more recently in the political realm, but we won't go into all that.

Having lived through it, I can testify that it was indeed the ugly, farcical manipulation that dasein analyzes so eloquently. Some of those speaking out were banned from the Debian developers mailing list. I got a warning. There was some debate on the Debian forum at the time but systemd discussions are now not even allowed afaik. When IBM bought Red Hat, everything started to come into focus, then Poettering moved to MS and then, fait accompli, everything became perfectly clear.

#769 Re: Devuan » Can anyone fill me in on why and how exactly systemd took over Linux? » 2023-08-22 13:27:16

OT: Open letter to the Linux World
Date: Tue Aug 12 2014 - 15:35:49 EST
https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/ker … 02496.html

Systemd: The Biggest Fallacies by Jude C. Nelson
https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/2018/03/26/186/

General Resolution: init system coupling
https://www.debian.org/vote/2014/vote_003

Combatting revisionist history
2015-02-25 20:23
https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=120652

#770 Re: Forum Feedback » [SOLVED] Theme request » 2023-08-20 19:50:47

DUH! So much for my reading skills! It's been a busy morning . . .

The scroll wheel works for me to zoom.

Sorry for the noise.

#771 Re: Forum Feedback » [SOLVED] Theme request » 2023-08-20 17:54:25

[Nonsense deleted]

If you find a way to fix it, do share with the community. Thanks.

#772 Re: Devuan » Meet the Daedalus sapphire theme » 2023-08-20 01:16:50

vrgovinda wrote:

Question: How to make the grub and theming reflect Daedalus instead of Chimaera

You'll need to switch to the Clearlooks-Phenix-Sapphire theme in "Appearance" or manually from /usr/share/themes/ and also select it in the "Window Manager" options. There may be other parts in /usr/share/themes/.  grub-styling is in /usr/share/desktop-base/. It is the default in Daedalus (or should be). How it's set up is a mystery to me but maybe fsmithred can jump in to sort things more clearly. Nice to hear that some folks really like Sapphire. Thank you!

[EDIT] You can also get all the pieces HERE.

#773 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] "Powered by Devuan" icons? » 2023-08-19 21:44:43

OK. I broke down and repositioned the logo. It was a quick and dirty job and I had to boot my old Jessie to do it. Ugh!

Anyway, while IMO it is an improvement, the font sizing relative to the logo is not harmonious. Would probably look better centered between the V and A with both ends at the apex of those to letters that were created especially for this logo. I leave that task to those of you who can speak machine better than I. Here you go:

https://transfer.sh/n5xgImfWwX/powered_by_devuan-R.png

#774 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Daedalus, seatd, can’t have multiple X sessions » 2023-08-19 15:47:23

semil wrote:

If this forum is even capable of moving topics, that is.

Yes. If appropriate.

#775 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] "Powered by Devuan" icons? » 2023-08-19 15:41:36

@boughtonp & alexkemp . . . thanks for working on a way to create a "Powered by Devuan" icon that Devuan can be proud of! I would join the technical fray but as I age the effort of dealing with the machine is overwhelming . . . wink I can help to optimize the layout verbally though.  smile

Black and white is fine as the colors have always changed with each release. And kiss. No borders or drop shadows. We are minimalists in this camp!! wink

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