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#51 Re: Installation » No Internet (wlan0) after boot of PC » 2017-06-26 18:15:55
@spartrekus - thank you for the procedure on Devuan. internet... finally!
why finally? no entendo
#52 Re: Off-topic » When Wayland will fully replace the old X11? » 2017-06-26 18:06:09
The good thing is that Devuan might consider the Xorg and not move too fast to other more modern, faster, better,... alternatives.
Devuan has a chance to get longer and get a larger community. It is good to start with small group of persons, and it will likely evolve on good way.
But who really know who will still maintain Xorg / X11...?
Old stuff never get maintained, look history. We are still lucky that old stuffs are still there, xpdf, xdm,... they have been menaced mayn times, and still. but someday, those x11 apps will simply die. No one with care about those x11.
Young generation that knew only Ubuntu modern shiniing will not go to retro, prehistoric, "museum-ic" x11 
#53 Re: Installation » Important failure installation of ASCII using standard Deboostrap. » 2017-06-26 04:39:49
grub automatic changes might be dangerous. Long long time I never use it
update-grub brrrr
I do not use grub, but I make a boot loader with simple dd and fdisk... you probably never often did that way. It s just faster and more reliable.
ls /devuan-kernel/
boot modules network boatloader.imgI see to past it with:
net.ifnames=0
then, we talk directly to Linus (the kernel)....
#54 Re: Installation » Important failure installation of ASCII using standard Deboostrap. » 2017-06-25 16:50:49
ifconfig is in the net-tools package
If you want wlan0 and eth0 instead of what you have for interface names, add 'net.ifnames=0' to the linux line of your boot menu.
wlp1s0, wlp2s0, wlan1, and sometimes wlan0,... .very unpredictable depending on the machine...
boot menu, i.e. visible after at /proc/cmdline ?
#55 Re: Installation » Important failure installation of ASCII using standard Deboostrap. » 2017-06-25 15:02:26
ok, but ifconfig and netwctl are missing, so I used:
ip link and then made sure to have :
# The loopback network interface
auto lo wlp1s0
iface lo inet loopback
iface wlp1s0 inet dhcp
wpa-conf /etc/network/wifi-home.confthen ifup wlp1s0
#56 Re: Installation » Important failure installation of ASCII using standard Deboostrap. » 2017-06-25 14:44:54
I am now trying with....
/target# /usr/sbin/debootstrap --no-check-gpg --exclude=syslog-ng,systemd,busybox-syslogd,rsyslog --include=make,wpasupplicant,netbase,login,passwd --arch i386 ascii /target http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/
I: Retrieving InRelease
I: Retrieving Packages
I: Validating Packages #57 Re: Installation » Important failure installation of ASCII using standard Deboostrap. » 2017-06-25 14:36:46
In progress. seeems ok!
/usr/sbin/debootstrap --no-check-gpg --exclude=syslog-ng,systemd,busybox-syslogd,rsyslog --arch i386 ascii /target http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/figuring apt-utils...
I: Configuring debconf-i18n...
I: Configuring whiptail...
I: Configuring gnupg...
I: Configuring libgnutls30:i386...
I: Configuring wget...
I: Configuring tasksel...
I: Configuring tasksel-data...
I: Configuring libc-bin...
I: Base system installed successfully.#58 Re: Installation » Important failure installation of ASCII using standard Deboostrap. » 2017-06-25 14:23:06
Error message says "possibly" but there's no doubt about it. You need to exclude rsyslog and include either syslog-ng or busybox-syslogd. When rsyslog for ascii is ready, you can switch back to it. It's also possible to add rsyslog from jessie-backports after the install. I know that works, but I don't know if there are any problems with it. (Tested minimally by me, once.)
You might need to exclude alsa-base, too. There is no such package in ascii.
here it works on JESSIE !!
I: Configuring apt-utils...
I: Configuring libirs-export91...
I: Configuring libgnutls-openssl27:i386...
I: Configuring iputils-ping...
I: Configuring isc-dhcp-common...
I: Configuring isc-dhcp-client...
I: Configuring tasksel...
I: Configuring tasksel-data...
I: Configuring libc-bin...
I: Base system installed successfully.Here it does NOT work on ASCII
I have nothing to do. I have to mention it to the development team so that they can fix this bug as soon as possible, because no one will be capable to install devuan ascii.
#59 Installation » Important failure installation of ASCII using standard Deboostrap. » 2017-06-25 13:19:29
- spartrekus
- Replies: 10
Hello,
I have installed many times DEVUAN with the following command:
/usr/sbin/debootstrap --no-check-gpg --include=wpasupplicant --arch i386 jessie /target http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/It is so far impossible to install ASCII with the same method, why? It is not working, shall it work?
/usr/sbin/debootstrap --no-check-gpg --include=wpasupplicant --arch i386 ascii /target http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/Debootstrap for Debian works, so it shall too for Devuan?
/usr/sbin/debootstrap --no-check-gpg --include=wpasupplicant --arch i386 ascii /target http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/gives:
I: Configuring wpasupplicant...
I: Configuring wget...
I: Configuring tasksel...
I: Configuring tasksel-data...
I: Configuring libc-bin...
W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times.
W: See /target/debootstrap/debootstrap.log for details (possibly the package rsyslog is at fault)
W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times.
W: See /target/debootstrap/debootstrap.log for details (possibly the package rsyslog is at fault)
W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times.
W: See /target/debootstrap/debootstrap.log for details (possibly the package rsyslog is at fault)
W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times.
W: See /target/debootstrap/debootstrap.log for details (possibly the package rsyslog is at fault)
W: Failure while configuring base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times.
W: See /target/debootstrap/debootstrap.log for details (possibly the package rsyslog is at fault)#60 Hardware & System Configuration » Changing the Keyboard Layout of the tty terminal of Devuan? » 2017-06-18 18:27:27
- spartrekus
- Replies: 1
Hello,
I have done the classical dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration, and I did set the desired layout for keyboard (Fr).
After I logout the session, and I login again on the same tty and visibly the change made is not working, still us keyboard layout of the tty.
Would you have possibly improvement here on the method employed?
thank you in advance / merci
#61 Installation » Installing DEVUAN on a NEC PC-8201 ? » 2017-06-18 17:20:26
- spartrekus
- Replies: 3
Hello,
I am trying to install Linux with a tiny install on a NEC PC-8201.
After soldering a lot to fix it, now the machine is operational I gave it a new life.
Getting a really small Devuan, right? Do you think that there is a small install of devuan available for such perfs.?
herewith the beast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6z6nzzXlUQ
#62 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How to change the Hostname in DEVUAN ? » 2017-06-18 17:13:50
Change it permanently:
echo "mynewpcname" > /etc/hostname(or open it in your favorite root editor)
Change it now:
hostname mynewpcnameThen log out and log in again. No need to reboot.
And if the old name is in /etc/hosts, change it there, too.
I do this way too thanks for confirming me....
However on a PI III B, the above method does not work.
About Hostname: SystemD is ugly, isn't it??
Plus, So, it means the following: This page would need a small update.
https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname
#63 Hardware & System Configuration » Black Screen of Death for Debian&Devuan Jessie with kernels >4.5.x » 2017-06-18 17:11:01
- spartrekus
- Replies: 1
Hello,
It is years that this problem is there! Time for a change?
that I rather use a less high kernel version with Jessie. It is the same result on Debian and Devuan.
After hours of use, the monitor will turn black, and this only for X11.
With 3.x kernel it is stable, really stable, It can run for years.
With 4.x kernel, it is unstable, really unstable, and you finally can risk to loose your work, important work, using 4.x kernel.
Any workaround?
(alt f1,... tty still always work. Rather work on terminal tty, it is stable, but let ubuntu supress TTY one day to look like a MS Windows machine?)
Module Size Used by
hmac 16384 1
drbg 24576 1
ansi_cprng 16384 0
ctr 16384 3
ccm 20480 3
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 45056 1
snd_hda_codec_realtek 61440 1
snd_hda_codec_generic 65536 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
intel_rapl 20480 0
intel_powerclamp 16384 0
coretemp 16384 0
kvm_intel 180224 0
arc4 16384 2
acer_wmi 20480 0
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aesni_intel 20480 6
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joydev 20480 0
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lrw 16384 1 aesni_intel
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cryptd 20480 1 ablk_helper
videobuf2_vmalloc 16384 1 uvcvideo
hid_multitouch 20480 0
iTCO_wdt 16384 0
ath9k 90112 0
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iTCO_vendor_support 16384 1 iTCO_wdt
ath9k_common 32768 1 ath9k
ath9k_hw 413696 2 ath9k_common,ath9k
rtsx_usb_ms 20480 0
ath 24576 3 ath9k_common,ath9k,ath9k_hw
videobuf2_v4l2 20480 1 uvcvideo
ath3k 16384 0
videobuf2_core 36864 2 uvcvideo,videobuf2_v4l2
mac80211 516096 1 ath9k
evdev 20480 8
videodev 131072 3 uvcvideo,videobuf2_core,videobuf2_v4l2
media 24576 2 uvcvideo,videodev
btusb 36864 0
memstick 16384 1 rtsx_usb_ms
btrtl 16384 1 btusb
pcspkr 16384 0
cfg80211 430080 4 ath,ath9k_common,ath9k,mac80211
serio_raw 16384 0
sg 32768 0
wmi 20480 1 acer_wmi
acpi_als 16384 0
ac 16384 0
kfifo_buf 16384 1 acpi_als
industrialio 45056 2 acpi_als,kfifo_buf
8250_fintek 16384 0
battery 16384 0
dw_dmac 16384 0
snd_soc_rt5670 81920 0
snd_soc_rl6231 16384 1 snd_soc_rt5670
hci_uart 69632 0
snd_intel_sst_acpi 16384 0
regmap_i2c 16384 1 snd_soc_rt5670
dw_dmac_core 24576 1 dw_dmac
snd_intel_sst_core 61440 1 snd_intel_sst_acpi
btbcm 16384 2 btusb,hci_uart
btqca 16384 1 hci_uart
btintel 16384 2 btusb,hci_uart
tpm_crb 16384 0
bluetooth 421888 7 ath3k,btbcm,btqca,btrtl,btusb,hci_uart,btintel
snd_soc_sst_mfld_platform 61440 1 snd_intel_sst_core
snd_soc_sst_match 16384 1 snd_intel_sst_acpi
tpm_tis 20480 0
i2c_designware_platform 16384 0
i915 1097728 3
tpm 36864 2 tpm_crb,tpm_tis
video 32768 2 i915,acer_wmi
drm_kms_helper 106496 1 i915
drm 249856 4 i915,drm_kms_helper
i2c_designware_core 20480 1 i2c_designware_platform
i2c_algo_bit 16384 1 i915
fb_sys_fops 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
syscopyarea 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
sysfillrect 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
sysimgblt 16384 1 drm_kms_helper
snd_soc_core 155648 2 snd_soc_rt5670,snd_soc_sst_mfld_platform
rfkill 20480 4 cfg80211,acer_wmi,bluetooth
snd_compress 20480 1 snd_soc_core
lpc_ich 20480 0
i2c_i801 20480 0
shpchp 32768 0
soc_button_array 16384 0
button 16384 1 i915
snd_hda_intel 28672 0
processor 32768 0
snd_hda_codec 94208 4 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_core 45056 5 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep 16384 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm 81920 7 snd_soc_rt5670,snd_soc_core,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_soc_sst_mfld_platform,snd_hda_core
snd_timer 28672 1 snd_pcm
snd 57344 11 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_soc_core,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_soc_sst_mfld_platform,snd_compress
soundcore 16384 1 snd
ext4 503808 1
crc16 16384 2 ext4,bluetooth
mbcache 20480 1 ext4
jbd2 77824 1 ext4
rtsx_usb_sdmmc 28672 0
rtsx_usb 20480 2 rtsx_usb_sdmmc,rtsx_usb_ms
hid_generic 16384 0
usbhid 45056 0
sd_mod 40960 2
uas 20480 0
usb_storage 53248 1 uas
crc32c_intel 16384 0
ahci 36864 1
libahci 28672 1 ahci
xhci_pci 16384 0
r8169 73728 0
mii 16384 1 r8169
xhci_hcd 151552 1 xhci_pci
libata 184320 2 ahci,libahci
usbcore 180224 9 uas,ath3k,btusb,uvcvideo,rtsx_usb,usb_storage,usbhid,xhci_hcd,xhci_pci
scsi_mod 180224 5 sg,uas,usb_storage,libata,sd_mod
usb_common 16384 1 usbcore
fan 16384 0
thermal 20480 0
i2c_hid 20480 0
hid 90112 4 i2c_hid,hid_multitouch,hid_generic,usbhid
sdhci_acpi 16384 0
sdhci 40960 1 sdhci_acpi
mmc_core 106496 3 sdhci,sdhci_acpi,rtsx_usb_sdmmc#64 Devuan » Could ffmpeg 2.2 be into the Stable Main repositories? » 2017-06-18 11:01:33
- spartrekus
- Replies: 0
Hello,
I think that ffmpeg might be missing many user, maybe it could be possible to have a ffmpeg which is too available into Stable of Main.
FFMPEG into Backport?? come on
ffmpeg 2.2. could be suited to the main. If mplayer2 is there, so could be ffmpeg 2.2. !
I have compiled it on devuan stable and if you need a deb, let me know...
#65 Re: Off-topic » Who is Maradona? » 2017-06-15 03:21:05
Pele, Zidane,... many excellent, outstanding, players.
#66 Re: Off-topic » Life after Firefox » 2017-06-15 03:19:24
netsurf is amazingly fast,...congratulations for the dev.
#67 Installation » Why sane (scanimage) installation depends on GIMP? » 2017-06-14 06:18:25
- spartrekus
- Replies: 1
Hello,
Needing scanimage, I ended with just gimp and more into my configuration.
Might be an issue for some users.... not willing to much add ons. Is this normal?
#68 Re: Off-topic » When Wayland will fully replace the old X11? » 2017-06-14 04:42:32
spartrekus wrote:Unix is dead when Wayland will arrive! Linux has become, since Ubuntu arrived, too closely linked and too similar to Microsoft Windows
If Wayland replaces X11, I will never use Linux any longer. I will fully move to BSD. After SystemD, Wayland is really to much.
I like your attitude, some time ago, I stopped using modern versions specifically since debian had the multiarch and I saw as my video capture stopped being supported by the kernel .. until now that Devuan was released .. I had not used a linux modern...
i have many hardware availibility for testing, moslty low resources machine (a k6/III 122MHz system bus and some darumas), few powered (a dell i7 16G ram radeon discrete and a r700 powered server) and tested Devuan, performance its not so faster respect Venenux but its good for modern hardware
if wayland comes some day and kill xorg, i do same as you, i'm tyred of winbuntu stupid things
BSD is cool, really, and it s Unix.
Don't you want to try to build an orignal Linux system, like the Unix system, with me?
I have already put up so much information and codes that I can launch a tiny Linux, ultra fast.
The only thing I need is the kernel and someone that maintain libx11-dev and Xfree/Xorg/Xvesa.
I saw that when I boot a K6 with a tiny Linux kernel, you can run it, well, fast and have X11 applications working well. K6/III is not for trash, but can be really used.
I have made a tiny markup language which is few that 500 lines, and you can bring it to TeX. Well, with almost not resource, it is fairly possible to work.
However some part of the Linux kernel is kinda going some strange directions sometimes. Linux kernel?
The whole goal of making an original Linux distribution like an Unix system is to closely base it on the following most important Unix principle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMm0HsmOTFI
(mirror: https://github.com/spartrekus/TheCode-F … ing-System)
#69 Re: Off-topic » When Wayland will fully replace the old X11? » 2017-06-12 18:01:55
Unix is dead when Wayland will arrive! Linux has become, since Ubuntu arrived, too closely linked and too similar to Microsoft Windows
If Wayland replaces X11, I will never use Linux any longer. I will fully move to BSD. After SystemD, Wayland is really to much.
after some research (and some laungh ka ka ka) seems waylang some day will be innebitable.. "like smit said!"
--
You can visit my tiny programmes of beginner for leisure and programming relaxation:
https://github.com/spartrekus/terminal4tinypc
#70 Re: Off-topic » When Wayland will fully replace the old X11? » 2017-06-12 05:20:55
spartrekus wrote:Complex Java, C#,... are abominations for the veteran Unix programmers, who started from assembler, Fortran, Pascal... and C, C++ programming experiences.
ka ka ka.. okay wel.. , well, but i'm not taking about a closed view of the things.. all of us must open our limits and see beyond ..the problems its as you said.. they people that missed GNU, kernel and free Unix systems filosofy.. as example the systemd problem that rely in this new system, Devuan...
After Systemd, the best is maybe the spying done, with convenient spyware features.
Richard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
#71 Re: Off-topic » When Wayland will fully replace the old X11? » 2017-06-11 18:32:09
spartrekus wrote:It seems that linux users want they machine like a Windows or Android.
you are wrong.. developer make it! there's too many infiltrade guindows like developers..
guindows is getting likely soon or later the largest population today. Probably they missed the first initiation to GNU, kernel and free Unix systems. Unix is much different than Windows, which makes it difficult to understand the programming philosophy.
Complex Java, C#,... are abominations for the veteran Unix programmers, who started from assembler, Fortran, Pascal... and C, C++ programming experiences.
#72 Re: Off-topic » When Wayland will fully replace the old X11? » 2017-06-11 16:01:13
Indeed too little development... unfortunately.
seems users here not have their control of the freedown and companies and powered developers sponsored by companies interes (like wayland and stupid eye-candy things) are the moda!
What to do to bring back Unix moda?
It seems that linux users want they machine like a Windows or Android. Unix changes progressively to Windows, eye candies, slow systems, ... maybe one day X11 will never be. what to do then?
#73 Re: Off-topic » When Wayland will fully replace the old X11? » 2017-06-11 13:06:47
Do you think that someday DEVUAN will adopt WAYLAND if all other distros goes for Wayland?
#74 Hardware & System Configuration » How to change the Hostname in DEVUAN ? » 2017-06-11 13:04:30
- spartrekus
- Replies: 3
Hello,
How to change the Hostname in DEVUAN ?
Probably the method echo "mynewpcname" > /etc/hostname with after a reboot, is not the official one
thank you
#75 Re: Off-topic » Is Blackbox still today a recommended or outdated WM ? » 2017-06-11 12:30:28
Blackbox is so fast !
After days of emperimentig X11 Window Manager, it is clear that Blackbox is faster than Openbox..
It seems that it has all what users may need of.
The question is that JWM takes more memory than Blackbox.
Blackbox looks nicer than JWM in my opinion
Users can do something with it since there is a menu for changing options, embedeed.
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