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#26 Re: Installation » Looking for the "right way" to install xfce4 » 2025-05-25 19:34:05

The way to start a "graphical desktop" is personal taste.

I remember being very annoyed years ago, when an installation defaulted to a graphical login screen - this is wrong !!11!
These days, I don't want to type in a text console start[x,lxde,kde,...].

#27 Re: News & Announcements » Chrome based browsers and uBlock Origin » 2025-05-19 22:23:26

I'm not having any problems running firefox and librewolf at the same time.

It's currently librewolf.appimage and firefox-esr from the excalibur repo. The appimage version should work on any devuan. I don't use librewolf from its debian repo for historical reasons (no sound on pure alsa).

#28 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Announcing Movuan » 2025-05-13 21:36:46

I have a spare Sony XA2 lying around.
Any chance to get movuan on it?

It currently runs SailfishOS.
The number of running proceses is quite high, including some *name-not-to-mention-here*. And it's rpm-based not deb / apt.

#29 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] certbot renewal cron script » 2025-04-29 20:32:11

As far as I understand the timer: The program 'certbot' will be executed either by systemd.timers (if systemd is running) or by cron (in case of devuan).
No need for adjustments. Or I'm just wrong.

It's kind of sick, that cron looks (or has to look) for systemd.timers, but anyway.

#30 Re: Off-topic » Lightweight system without (too) bloated software » 2025-04-25 22:00:44

At what point would I need a "clipboard manager"?

copy-on-mark and paste-on-middle-mouse-button just works.

#31 Re: Off-topic » Lightweight system without (too) bloated software » 2025-04-20 19:33:53

Dual-windowed file manger: mc / doublecmd
Image Viewer: This is a difficult one. Sometimes viewnior or nomacs (excalibur)
Screenshots: flameshot

#32 Re: DIY » An idea for 32-bit system for old machines, input requested » 2025-04-20 19:04:30

I don't know the policy of archive.devuan.org, but snapshot.debian.org covers anything since lenny.

#33 Re: Other Issues » Devuan as iSCSI originator - umount issues on shutdown » 2025-04-20 12:55:05

It''s possibel to

apt-get install systemctl

Not sure whether this works for iscsi.

#34 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » mesa and VA-API hardware acceleration » 2025-04-13 17:52:26

Hi,
VA-API is - as far as I know- hardware acceleration using Intel-Graphics.
There is a warper for nvidia GPUs for VA-API calls (nvidia-vaapi-driver).
No idea how or whether this is possible with Radeon graphics.

#35 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Desktop locking up / temp freezes » 2025-04-13 10:25:08

Sounds like a hardware problem.
I would pull out and insert again all RAM modus and PCI extension cards. This makes new electrical contact.
Since the PC has no external graphics card, this most likely means the RAM, as Pedro guessed before.

#37 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Devuan 5 Daedalus - Evolution CalDav integration » 2025-04-05 12:07:44

I can't manage to find how to integrate the current "panel clock" to use evolution

Assuming mate panel works similar to lxde ... .
Did you compare the "panel applet" configuration on both install? (GUI and config file)
Is the panel using a different plugin for the "panel clock"?

it displays two hours back

BIOS (or efi): Set time to UTC, not local time.
(Some flavour of) ntp should run in any case. If the time difference is too big, ntp might not want to sync.
Check insatllation's time zone settings: /etc/adjtime /etc/localtime /etc/timezone. Last line in /etc/adjtime should be "UTC".
E.g.:

$ cat /etc/adjtime
0.000000 1743786960 0.000000
1743786960
UTC

$ ls -l /etc/localtime
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35  Mon 2024-07-01 19:25  /etc/localtime -> ../usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Zurich

$ cat /etc/timezone
Europe/Zurich

https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime

#38 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How to change DNS server permanently » 2025-04-01 22:22:31

That depends on your network configuration.

Some cases:
(a) static network settings in /etc/network/interfaces; then /etc/resolv.conf sets dns. Just edit to your needs.
Dynamic:
(b) plain dhcp: you can superseed (overwrite) the routers dns "suggestion".
(c) "network managers" there is a zoo of different tools. e.g. NetworkManager, connman, resolvconf, and what not; all with different gui and console tools for making changes.
Addional hardware:
(d) have a personal router - not the one from the Internet Service Provider. Set it up to your needs and any client will have the wanted dns server automatically.

a,b is good for static LAN, c for wireless-LAN or more dynamic setups (and for static LAN too, if you like).

Edit: Some typo. And the list is not complete, of course.

#39 Re: Documentation » [HowTo] dhcp & udhcpc - Timeout for network connections » 2025-03-18 14:40:56

[ $(cat /sys/class/net/eth0/carrier) -eq 1 ]
is a logical expression. True, if the ethernet-cable is connected.

#40 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Brightness module? » 2025-03-18 13:01:00

Nice tools, zapper!
Thanks for mentioning smile

#41 Re: Installation » How to install nvidia drivers in daedalus? » 2025-03-11 18:44:11

Marketing department is so funny ... Up to now I thought it would be a very old card. But it is "Pascal" archtecture, same as mine.

The following packages are manually installed on my system (excalibur, but should not matter):
firmware-nvidia-graphics firmware-nvidia-gsp nvidia-alternative nvidia-detect nvidia-driver nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-modprobe nvidia-settings nvidia-xconfig

You need to run 'nvidia-xconfig' to create 'xorg.conf'; otherwise X will not start.
Edit: Just found that there is no 'xorg.conf' and an empty 'xorg.conf.d' on my system.

#42 Re: Installation » How to install nvidia drivers in daedalus? » 2025-03-11 15:52:19

The error messages don't ring a bell.
Are linux-headers-amd64 and firmware-nvidia installed? (assuming yes, but ...)

Which version of 'nvidia-driver' is installed for your card? 535, 525, 470, 418, 390 ? Maybe something version dependant.
The labtop might have "optimus" architecture, where you can switch between nvidia and intel graphics. This is needs special setup, I don't know at all.

Edit:
nvidia_current_open : Does this refer to nvidias new open source drivers (for RTX2000 and later)?

#43 Re: Installation » How to install nvidia drivers in daedalus? » 2025-03-11 13:58:58

apt-get purge nvidia-persistenced will do.

It's use case is a headless server for e.g. CUDA calculation.

#44 Re: Installation » How to install nvidia drivers in daedalus? » 2025-03-11 11:19:02

Hm, that is strange.
My std / non-customised daedalus install has the same 'sources.list' and 'nouveau' graphics driver too.

# apt-get update
# apt-get dist-upgrade
# apt-get install nvidia-detect
(...)
Unpacking nvidia-detect (535.216.01-1~deb12u1) ...
Setting up nvidia-detect (535.216.01-1~deb12u1) ...

devuan pkginfo says it's available on all distros. https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli … t&x=submit

Something in '/etc/apt/preferences.d/' ?
'apt policy' may give a hint.

Out of ideas by now.

#45 Re: Installation » How to install nvidia drivers in daedalus? » 2025-03-10 22:21:27

The proprietary driver is needed for hardware acceleration. 'contrib' and 'non-free' repos must be present in in '/etc/apt/sources.list' to install it.

The utility nvidia-detect recommends a driver version. The name is both, debian package and executable. Beside that

#46 Re: Installation » How to import a synaptic exported package list? » 2025-03-09 12:09:53

I suggest to insert some filters

apt list | \
grep 'installed' | grep -v -e 'installed,local' -e 'installed,automatic' -e ^lib | \
awk -F"/" '{ print $1 }'  > package-list

^lib : removes all libraries (should be installed automatically), but also "libreoffice".
'installed,local' : packages not in the current sources.list. I would want to check those.

Edit:
Forgot to mention: To apply to a new installation

apt-get install $(cat package-list| tr -d '\n')

tr -d '\n' deletes end-of-line characters.

I like fsmithred's 'dpkg --get-selections' version; it includes de-installation of packages, which it not covered here.

#47 Re: News & Announcements » Chrome based browsers and uBlock Origin » 2025-03-05 20:55:20

Chrome is may things** but not a browser.
It may be used for something sweet like this web site, but not in the wild, where it turns into an advertising delivery platform.

**audio/video encoder/decoder, debugger, environment for online games, part of a web-shop, ... and what not.

#48 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Bluetooth support on laptop » 2025-03-05 20:28:45

Maybe

apt-get install blueman pipewire-pulse

Yes, this is also something pulseaudio ... .

Wifi and bluetooth are sharing the 2.4 GHz band. Using one chip for both is an option.

#49 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] "A future for the i386 architecture" and other good(???) news » 2025-01-02 21:28:22

On the other hand: Offering i386-install-iso's makes people install linux on scrap computers. And then it sucks ... .

Personally, I bought my last 32-bit-x86-computer in 1999 (0.5 GHz Intel Pentium with 0.4 GB RAM). Probably it would still work, but it's gone.

#50 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » NVidia issues » 2024-12-19 23:42:51

"Blacklisting nouveau" and "no proprietary nvidia driver installed" means the system uses a generic VESA or VGA drive (1024x768).

To install the proprieatary nvidia driver - as far as I remember:

apt-get install firmware-nvidia-graphics nvidia-driver linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64

The full kernel source is not needed to compile the nvidia driver, headers are sufficient. If you want kernel updates, install "linux-image-amd64", not a specific version.
It needs a "xorg.conf" to function (create one with e.g. "nvidia-xconfig"; maybe to install additionally).

Just to mention:
In my cases, the nouveau driver just worked without any config (no acceleration of course).
And my computer spends some seconds with "Waiting udevd to be populated" too (no idea why).

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