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#26 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] "A future for the i386 architecture" and other good(???) news » 2025-01-03 13:25:25

This is what I'm waiting for:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=53863#p53863

... but this is still derailing the topic of this thread (as is the RISC-V glitch), so answers to this please in its own threads.

#27 Off-topic » Self hosting digital amoebas. » 2025-01-03 13:22:20

yeti
Replies: 2
Self-Hosting (Almost) All The Way Down

A FPGA-based Fedora-capable computer that can rebuild its own bitstream
https://archive.fosdem.org/2023/schedul … _way_down/

This is what I am waiting for.
Total fluidity down to even the gate level.
Self hosting digital amoebas.

#28 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] "A future for the i386 architecture" and other good(???) news » 2025-01-03 12:25:32

stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn wrote:

have been watching risc-v with interest for several years now.

these boards ship with ubuntu pre-installed(i know...ugh)

https://www.sifive.com/boards/hifive-premier-p550

OK: We just switch to RISC-V and forget about i386.

=> SOLVED!

\o/ ___( THANKS! )

#29 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] "A future for the i386 architecture" and other good(???) news » 2025-01-01 10:51:22

Generating images using debootstrap and friends will still work for a while.
When De__an no longer is an alternative, I'll quit using Linux.

#30 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] "A future for the i386 architecture" and other good(???) news » 2025-01-01 07:39:31

Good new for 32bit haters!

debian-devel-announce/2024/12/msg00002 mentions:

From: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>
Subject: Debian Installer Trixie Alpha 1 release
Newsgroups: linux.debian.announce.devel, linux.debian.maint.boot
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:20:02 +0100 (15 hours, 4 minutes, 32 seconds ago)
Organization: Debian
Reply-To: debian-boot@lists.debian.org

(((SNIP)))

Important changes in this release
=================================

Many changes have been happening during this release cycle already, and
this announcement isn't meant to be exhaustive. Instead, let's stick to
some high-level view of the most important changes.

There are major updates on the hardware support side:
 - We're no longer building an installer for the armel and i386
   architectures, even if they remain in the archive at the moment.

#31 Re: News & Announcements » Merry Christmas » 2024-12-24 20:42:04

golinux wrote:

The winter solstice was a few says ago. That is something ALL of us can celebrate. Let there be light!   wink . .

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#33 Re: Off-topic » AI Safety » 2024-12-06 20:26:13

Annoying counts as danger ...

Fran Blanche
YouTube Now Has A Brain - And It Is Insane!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DteWHExa04I

#34 Re: DIY » how to implement Linux commands for building core boot image » 2024-11-30 11:54:24

greenjeans wrote:

Yep, the man pages rock.

...via w3mman even more!

#35 Re: Off-topic » AI Safety » 2024-11-22 23:27:49

Robert Miles AI Safety
Using Dangerous AI, But Safely?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pgEMWy70Qk

#36 Re: Off-topic » AI Safety » 2024-11-19 21:34:50

This may not be a safety topic for us, but someone else may see that differently:

FORTUNE
Elon Musk’s AI turns on him, labels him ‘one of the most significant spreaders of misinformation on X’
https://fortune.com/2024/11/14/grok-mus … -spreader/https://fortune.com/2024/11/14/grok-mus … -spreader/

;-D

#37 Re: Off-topic » Several Russian Linux Kernel Maintainers Removed » 2024-11-04 19:24:48

Devarch wrote:

BSD could be the final resting place

Only one of them if you want to keep your 32bitters running.

#38 Re: Off-topic » Thank you Devuan » 2024-10-08 19:29:37

quickfur wrote:

We will fork the Linux ecosystem and leave the unified world behind.

Linux (the kernel) will adapt increasingly to systemd's existence and forking that monster that soon won't work without systemd at all just would be the next manpower problem and a continuous fight against growing windmills.  I only see a future for Linux in the dimension with locked-in users.  $THEY won.  Linux now is the new Windows, just get used to that.

*RIBBIT!*

#39 Re: Off-topic » Thank you Devuan » 2024-10-08 11:01:56

There is no solution with Linux.  We need to get used to this thought.

#40 Re: Off-topic » Thank you Devuan » 2024-10-07 06:56:06

golinux wrote:

WOW! You are quite an archeologist, nixer!!  So openly brazen!! How was this post not found nearly 15 years ago?

Did we need to find that to smell these motives?
Big-$$$ wants the single flavour steamlined Linux base to make their lives easier.
But sure it is nice to being able to point to it as evidence.

Linux turns into what it aimed to be an alternative to, and we are like the slowly boiled frogs in that game.  Devuan buys us some time, but we will lose unless we find other kernels.  Some projects with Linux compatible kernels are already there, but they need more time.

And there are the BSDs.  You remember the pages of debian.org mentioning Debian ports to the 3 major BSD kernels?  That silently died for 2½ of them.  Only Debian/kFreebsd kind of still exists.

golinux wrote:

It is a good time to be old . . . very old . . .

Only already mad souls dream of immortality in the world we now face.

#41 Re: Off-topic » AI Safety » 2024-10-02 19:33:12

A bit AI related:

Sabine Hossenfelder
New Theory of Consciousness Explains Why Zombies Don’t Exist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kolJoTf-Ew

#42 Re: Off-topic » AI Safety » 2024-09-19 13:08:03

JWM-Kit wrote:

My point is not that the danger doesn't exist. We can't stop it, but ensuring that the technology is free and open to everyone will level the playing field.

Levelled?
Like "only a good one with an AI can stop a bad one abusing AI"?
I do not buy that!

#43 Re: Off-topic » AI Safety » 2024-09-19 12:31:25

JWM-Kit wrote:

It's a race, but the more that it is developed in the open with an FOSS license the better.

Then being shot by a 3D-printed gun from free and open plans is less harmful.  That'll make death really more free experience!  \o/

#44 Re: Off-topic » AI Safety » 2024-09-19 11:31:31

stopAI wrote:

The best way to deal with AI safety is disable AI completely.

You safely can bet on [Horror Sapiens]'s greed, so shit definitely always will happen.

#45 Re: Off-topic » AI Safety » 2024-09-18 20:27:01

Fraser Cain
& Guest: Dr. Roman Yampolskiy
Should We Slow Down AI Progress?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4M3Q_P2xP4

#46 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] Anyone know how to get doas working properly on devuan? » 2024-09-17 16:16:16

bilhook wrote:

colon before user is interesting

doas.conf(5) wrote:
     identity     The username to match.  Groups may be specified by prepend-
                  ing a colon (':').  Numeric IDs are also accepted.

#47 Re: Off-topic » How are you guys quoting posts? » 2024-08-31 10:02:47

nahkhiirmees wrote:

After removing those tags there will be only a retarded version of irc. Good luck finding any interesting discussion then.

Even in IRC users find ways to quote contents in a readable way, which btw still is possible here.

But sure I'd prefer to use a devuan.* hierarchy via NNTP, if all else fails maybe based on mailing lists gated to NNTP via Gmane?

#48 Re: Off-topic » How are you guys quoting posts? » 2024-08-29 19:12:04

nahkhiirmees wrote:

Somehow i doubt that yeti was even born when i used Usenet news first time.

Sure you are allowed to doubt, but better do not bet on it!
But what does that add to the discussion?

#49 Re: Off-topic » How are you guys quoting posts? » 2024-08-29 00:17:31

nahkhiirmees wrote:

Have been thinking lately:
20+ years ago there were something called Usenet.

The original Fediverse still exists.

nahkhiirmees wrote:

I think back in the day the over-quoting was not that big problem as it its now with these web-based message_boards.

You should only quote the parts you are answering to.  Generation clickycolour seems to have unlearned that.  I hear similar things from plain email.  Instead of keeping the messages of a conversation in a folder, some expect the whole message pingpong to be appended to the newest part.  Microsoftisms?

Well... at least I'm not overlooking the quote button.

SIGH!

#50 ARM Builds » Transgrading DeBIan -> DeVUan » 2024-08-26 05:09:53

yeti
Replies: 0

((( Quasi-reply to Index » ARM Builds » Updating kernel (Raspberry pi 2). )))

Still no kernel updates?

Phewww...

Long ago (ASCII days?) I transgraded some Cubietrucks (UBoot images) from Debian to Devuan and so Debian's kernel update automagism survived.

I repeated that some days ago for two Debian12/RasPi2 and one Debian12/RasPi1 and doing that with two Debian12/RasPi4 is on my to do list.  The dist-upgrade step of the migration included a kernel update, so I'm now ommmmmmptimistically awaiting the next regular kernel update.

—▷ https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … o-daedalus

Redoing this on some Cubietrucks (and maybe BananaPi-R1) is on my to do list too, but I'm fighting a ™Dark Energy Infection™ in that list...  YKWIM...

Maybe we should look at Debian's RasPI image generator and fork it to generate Devuan images directly?  Or is someone ommmmmmptimistic enough to ask the [Debian Raspberry Pi Maintainers] to add Devuan directly?  I'm not ... *sigh!*

—▷ https://salsa.debian.org/raspi-team/image-specs

OTOH:  Does accidentally someone know why DeBIan's daily builds of RasPI images are stuck since 2024-03-30?  Or has the page changed to a different URL and that one contains newer builds?

—▷ https://raspi.debian.net/daily-images/

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