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#26 Other Issues » "ly" Display Manager » 2022-02-06 19:08:51
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Can anyone tell me how-to start "ly" using sysvint? I have no problem starting it using systemd however... sysvinit has me perplexed.
Here's a link to the relevant github.
https://github.com/nullgemm/ly
Edit: I searched for an 'ly' service in sysv but did not find one.
TIA
#27 Re: News & Announcements » PeppermintOS now Debian base & soon Devuan based » 2022-02-05 14:43:10
No it seems to 'offer' (time will tell) a bit more fluid 'rolling approach'. From what little I have read, they have a number of repos stages (stable, test, unstable) with pinning involved. For example, yesterday I went a bit 'off the reservation' and installed 5.16rc as my kernel, all with just a minor tweak.
It is a nice distro and will be much better once Devuan is the base (IMHO). From what I understand they are already in the process of removing some of the systemd dependant 'stuff' from their distro (like snaps, etc...). btw. they are looking (on matrix.org) for experienced Devuan users to help with their testing, etc.
#28 News & Announcements » PeppermintOS now Debian base & soon Devuan based » 2022-02-05 14:14:15
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For those who care about such things...
A formerUbuntu distro is about to offer both Debian and soon Devuan based releases.
PeppermintOS is expanding and building on Devuan (no-systemd), as well.
https://mastodon.technology/web/statuse … 5732164397
New PeppermintOS release write-up on Forbes:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevang … a556aa328a
#29 Re: Other Issues » trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm) » 2022-01-30 18:14:21
The chimaera live does work... the remaining variable then must involve something in my .xsessionrc. I have included that below. Maybe something problematic obvious jumps out.
###########################################
#
# .xprofile (common settings) for
# i3wm & dwm window managers on Arch
# Mark Rabideau @ eirenicon.org (ManyRoads)
#
###########################################
# compositor
xcompmgr -CnfF -I-.015 -O-.03 -D6 -t-1 -l-3 -r4.2 -o.5 &
# picom &
# shared common keybindings (applications)
sxhkd -c ~/.config/sxhkd/base.conf &
# Dropbox & Google Drive #####################
#sleep 30 && vgrive &
pkill dropbox
# the display= removes problem systray icon.
sleep 10 && DISPLAY= dropbox start -i &
#sleep 20 && dropbox start -i &
# set network manager #####################
nm-applet &
# bluetooth
/usr/bin/blueman-applet &
#blueman &
# set sound functions #####################
start-pulseaudio-x11 &
pnmixer &
#amixer -c 0 set Master playback 25% unmute &
# power related functions #####################
lxqt-powermanagement &#
#xfce4-power-manager &
sudo tlp start
sudo powertop --auto-tune
xautolock -time 8 -locker i3lock-fancy &
#Dell fan control ~ (ref. https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/controlling-dell-fan-speeds-temperature-on-ubuntu-debian-linux/)
sudo /etc/init.d/i8kmon start &
i8kctl fan 1 1 &
# Red-spectrum & gamma light shift #####################
redshift-gtk -l 39.3914:-104.7528 &
xrandr --output eDP-1 --primary --brightness 0.9 --mode 1920x1080 &
# keyboard settings #####################
/bin/bash -c "sleep 5 && setxkbmap -option compose:ralt" &
#xsetroot -xcf /usr/share/icons/Bibata-Original-Amber/cursors/left_ptr 34 &
#setxkbmap -option compose:ralt &
# gnome settings #####################
gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=pkcs11 &
# Polkit #####################
#lxpolkit &
/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1 &
# Notification #####################
dunst -conf ~/.config/dunst/dunstrc &
apt-notifier &
# wallpaper #####################
# currently using nitrogen to manually change wallpapers
feh --randomize --bg-fill /home/mark/Dropbox/wallpapers/VladStudio/*
# Caffeine #####################
caffeine-indicator &
# USB unmounter #####################
udiskie -s --automount --notify &
# misc #####################
diodon &
touchpad-indicator &
# sleep 15 && /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/my-weather-indicator/bin/my-weather-indicator &
/usr/libexec/gvfsd &
/usr/libexec/gvfsd-trash  Re: Other Issues » trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm) » 2022-01-29 23:15:55
@Head_on_a_stick You got it.... Functioning Trash to me means when I setup Thunar I get the option to either move an item into Trash or Delete it (bypassing Trash). Right now on Devuan and MX (sysV init) I do NOT have the option to place items into Trash and delete them later. I can only Delete (now).
trash:/// is actually located at $Home/.local/share/Trash.
Whether or not I have 'functioning' trash, the folder exists on both (Devuan and MX). It only functions on systemd MX.
Later that same day in a city 'not far away'... I decided to try and see what happens with antiX21 (runit). It works just fine. Trash functions exactly as it should. Aside from my lack of skills and manually dexterity, I am left thinking the problem has to do with sysV init. I think gvfs does not like sysV.
I am left wondering.... "How many angels,ARE able to stand on the head of a pin?"
#31 Re: Other Issues » trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm) » 2022-01-29 20:32:53
I installed the liveUSB for Devuan (chimaera) and then replaced the repos for chimaera with daedalus (testing). I then performed a full-upgrade. Nowhere along the line does Trash function for me on my machine unless I use systemd.
Interestingly when I use MX it does not have functioning trash (when booted usingsysv-init); identical with Devuan. However, MX when booted with systemd has normally functioning Trash. Debian also works just fine in it's systemd incarnation.
In all cases, the trash folder remains existent in my .local/share folder. On MX, a boot/ reboot between systemd- sysvinit on the same machine (minutes apart) has the trash folder appear/ disappear. FWIW. I, also, either loose or have the delete/trash maintenance options appear/disappear in accordance with the Trash folder. (Exists in systemd booted envirnment, not in the non-systemd incarnation.)
I tried the following file managers with the exact same results:
PCmanFM, nemo, nautilus...
It all makes me happier when using systemd..... 
#32 Re: Other Issues » trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm) » 2022-01-29 19:24:26
FWIW... I prefer "loose nut on the keyboard" to PEBKAC...
#33 Re: Other Issues » trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm) » 2022-01-29 19:20:35
Here is what I get:
Package files:
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
release a=now
500 https://repo.skype.com/deb stable/main amd64 Packages
release o=. stable,a=stable,n=stable,l=. stable,c=main,b=amd64
origin repo.skype.com
500 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packages
release v=5.0,o=Devuan,a=testing,n=daedalus,l=Devuan,c=main,b=amd64
origin deb.devuan.org
Pinned packages:#34 Re: Other Issues » trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm) » 2022-01-28 23:51:40
Nope the error is reproducible in PCmanFM and nemo....
#35 Re: Other Issues » trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm) » 2022-01-28 23:48:09
I think it might be a thunar bug (when running SysV).
#36 Re: Other Issues » trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm) » 2022-01-28 23:46:30
When I run it (after booting with your above commands) I get
mark@devuan:~$ /usr/libexec/gvfsd
Failed to acquire daemon name, perhaps the VFS daemon is already running?#37 Re: Other Issues » trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm) » 2022-01-28 23:31:18
@Head_on_a_Stick... I tried the above on both dwm and i3wm. Things still don't work. As you implied when I encounter the problem on MX, I just boot with systemd and everything works fine. Obviously I don't have that option here.
#38 Re: Other Issues » trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm) » 2022-01-28 22:17:49
@Head_on_a_Stick Here is how I start i3wm (via LightDM):
[Desktop Entry]
Name=i3
Comment=improved dynamic tiling window manager
Exec=i3
TryExec=i3
Type=Application
X-LightDM-DesktopName=i3
DesktopNames=i3
Keywords=tiling;wm;windowmanager;window;manager;and for dwm I start that via this 'autostart.sh' also called via LightDM
#! /bin/sh
#
# dwm autostart, etc.
#
# Numerous functions (autostart) are located in .xsessionrc (Debian) .xprofile (arch)
# including power management, polkit, dropbox, f.lux, dunst etc.
# conky
pkill conky
conky -c ~/.local/bin/Suckless/dwm/conky/.dwm-1rc &
conky -c ~/.local/bin/Suckless/dwm/conky/.dwm-2rc &
~/.local/share/scripts/xsetroot.sh &
# Dropbox
DISPLAY= dropbox start -i &
#start dwm
exec dwm#39 Other Issues » trash on thunar (dwm & i3wm) » 2022-01-28 17:53:36
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For some reason, I lose Trash on Thunar when running sysvinit on my Devuan dwm or i3wm installs. This is true even though the Trash folder remains intact. When I attempt to install gvfs I get the following message:
gvfs is already the newest version (1.48.1-2)Any ideas or help are appreciated.
=================
System:
Kernel: 5.15.0-3-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.2.0
Desktop: dwm 6.3 vt: 7 dm: LightDM 1.26.0
Distro: Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus/ceres)
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 5493 v: N/A
serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Dell model: 0M4FW1 v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell
v: 1.8.0 date: 03/24/2020
Battery:
ID-1: BAT0 charge: 33.7 Wh (100.0%) condition: 33.7/42.0 Wh (80.2%)
volts: 12.6 min: 11.4 model: BYD DELL 1VX1H9A type: Li-ion serial: <filter>
status: Full
Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M510
serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes
status: Discharging
CPU:
Info: quad core model: Intel Core i5-1035G1 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
smt: enabled arch: Ice Lake rev: 5 cache: L1: 320 KiB L2: 2 MiB L3: 6 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 830 high: 1187 min/max: 400/3600 cores: 1: 804 2: 874
3: 754 4: 546 5: 1187 6: 816 7: 908 8: 751 bogomips: 19046
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Iris Plus Graphics G1 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel
bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:8a56 class-ID: 0300
Device-2: Microdia Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo
bus-ID: 1-6:4 chip-ID: 0c45:671e class-ID: 0e02
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.14 compositor: xcompmgr driver:
loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
s-dpi: 96
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (ICL GT1) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.6
direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Ice Lake-LP Smart Sound Audio vendor: Dell
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:34c8
class-ID: 0403
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.0-3-amd64 running: yes
Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.0 running: yes
Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.43 running: no
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Dell
driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136
class-ID: 0200
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
vendor: Dell driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel bus-ID: 02:00.0
chip-ID: 168c:0042 class-ID: 0280
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-10:5
chip-ID: 0cf3:e009 class-ID: e001
Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter>
bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.2 sub-v: 25a hci-v: 4.2
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 1.84 TiB used: 1.21 TiB (65.9%)
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Silicon Power model: SPCC M.2 PCIe SSD
size: 953.87 GiB speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: ECFM22.5 temp: 26.9 C scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Crucial model: CT1000MX500SSD1 size: 931.51 GiB
speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 043 scheme: GPT
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 936.39 GiB used: 620.11 GiB (66.2%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
ID-2: /boot/efi size: 511 MiB used: 8.6 MiB (1.7%) fs: vfat
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 977 MiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 65.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
Info:
Processes: 243 Uptime: 18m wakeups: 4 Memory: 23.26 GiB
used: 2.26 GiB (9.7%) Init: SysVinit v: 3.00 runlevel: 2 default: 2
Compilers: gcc: 11.2.0 alt: 11 Packages: 2018 apt: 2006 flatpak: 12
Shell: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: st inxi: 3.3.12#40 Re: Devuan » Devuan look and feel » 2022-01-18 17:11:22
FWIW there are all manner of methods for dealing with desktops. Some distros go to incredible lengths to build elegant themes, POP!_OS, manjaro, garuda, mint; others provide desktop standard layouts (or ultra-simple stuff). A lot has to do with how the distro views itself.
I'm not certain where devuan wants to be. If it were me, and it isn't, I'd suggest that devuan operate with offering a single branded DE that is minimalist in nature. Because Devuan is more akin to Debian than anything else that could be xfce. It need not be at all fancy.
Another option and perhaps better choice would be to highlight a great desktop example from within this community; emphasizing perhaps an elegant, minimalist and unique desktop or wm. One that I like a lot is Miyo.
If you take an approach like emphasizing one or more respins, while at the same time encouraging all/any Devuan desktop users to roll their own and build respins, you could offer them all(?) to the world to use. To my mind that might take less work, offer better adverts, and engage a broader audience.
I was under a rock here somewhere....
#41 Re: Installation » alternatives to Mozilla's and Chomethings » 2021-12-29 23:44:29
Perhaps this will help you decide....
https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share
#42 Re: DIY » dwm & i3wm on Devuan by way of Miyo-rolling » 2021-12-12 17:25:56
I'm running a test of gnome 41 on an arch distro to see what happens. I'm thinking of use j4 on it. Thus far I'm pleased with the fact that gnome works/ runs in under 800MB until I turn Dropbox on. 
#43 Re: DIY » dwm & i3wm on Devuan by way of Miyo-rolling » 2021-12-11 16:42:17
FWIW... I have become a big fan of J4-dmenu-desktop and jgmenu. I use those on my dwm & i3wm setups (currently running on Devuan and siduction) successfully. I have pretty much given up on rofi and obmenu and tint2... polybar... and all the trendy stuff. I am truly old.
#44 Re: DIY » dwm & i3wm on Devuan by way of Miyo-rolling » 2021-12-10 23:31:43
@MiyoLinux I will give it a go.
#45 DIY » dwm & i3wm on Devuan by way of Miyo-rolling » 2021-12-10 19:30:09
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For those who might be interested, I have finally built a version of Devuan with dwm & i3wm (not gaps) window managers in a single userspace. I am quite pleased with the overall low memory usage. Boot times seem acceptable.
To build the environment I used a bunch of web sourced deb files for things like skype, zoom, dropbox, etc. Because this build used Miyo/ rolling as its base, I have left that on the same user space although I removed connman (due to its instability on my device) and have non-functional obmenu-generator which broke with my recent Devuan update. Below are a few scrots to provide evidence of life...
I'll send some i3wm scrots a bit later.
Thanks to Miyo for doing the hard work....
Edit: Here's an i3wm scrot. btw. &f wiw the wallpapers are from vlad.studio
#46 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] ungoogled-chromium, Iridium, or LibreWolf, please » 2021-11-02 23:00:13
FWIW. another option might be here: https://github.com/iridium-browser/tracker/issues/24. For those who don't want me to get rich of the above click, here's the essential content:
You can easily make your own using this recipe like this on a Debian/Ubuntu system:
wget -c "https://github.com/AppImage/AppImages/raw/master/pkg2appimage"
bash -ex pkg2appimage iridium-browser
The resulting AppImage should run on most Linux systems, not just on Debian/Ubuntu.Be advised I am only sharing this... I'll, also, test it later...
#47 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] ungoogled-chromium, Iridium, or LibreWolf, please » 2021-11-02 22:55:05
FWIW. the appimage for librewolf is here: https://gitlab.com/librewolf-community/ … -/releases
#48 Re: Off-topic » It's a sad day . . . » 2021-10-08 22:11:47
Perhaps it is also worth knowing what the glass contains...
#49 Re: Devuan » [SOLVED] chimaera (beta) running with dwm & i3wm: discoveries » 2021-09-07 12:37:50
Thanks @tylerdurden
#50 Re: Devuan » [SOLVED] chimaera (beta) running with dwm & i3wm: discoveries » 2021-09-06 13:18:22
Thank you Fred and Lars. In my case, for my family users I support in the Debian world I'll just stick with MX.
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