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Hello:
I dd'd devuan_daedalus_5.0.1_amd64_netinstall.iso to an 4.0Gb SD card.
Then installed it on an 8.0Gb USB stick.
The usual precautions taken:
- checked SHA256 of the downloaded *.iso
- installer check of the installation media before anything else
This is how the USB is partitioned:
# fdisk -l /dev/sdg
Disk /dev/sdg: 7.22 GiB, 7757398016 bytes, 15151168 sectors
Disk model: DataTraveler 2.0
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xdb4d27ce
Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sdg1 * 2048 4190207 4188160 2G 83 Linux
/dev/sdg2 4192254 15151103 10958850 5.2G 5 Extended
/dev/sdg5 4192256 14741503 10549248 5G 83 Linux
/dev/sdg6 14743552 15151103 407552 199M 82 Linux swap / Solaris
# On booting the USB, I get this:
GRUB loading.
Welcome to GRUB!
error: file ` /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found.
grub rescue> The installation was run on my Sun Ultra 24 which is not hampered by att the UEFI whatever crap.
Just plain BIOS boot, thank you.
It is as bare as could be (still needs a good clean-up) as I want to use it to run Clonezilla-Live.
Just the defaults, no desktop enviroment.cd.
When I mount the drive, CD to /boot, I get this:
$ /boot/grub$ ls
grub.cfg splash.png unicode.pf2
$Seems that grub is pointing to my system drive UUID ...
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root d6841f29-e39b-4c87-9c52-3a9c3bafe2d3... instead of pointing to the USB UUID:
# blkid
--- snip ---
/dev/sdb1: LABEL="devuan" UUID="d6841f29-e39b-4c87-9c52-3a9c3bafe2d3" BLOCK_SIZE="4096" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="0004a8f4-01"
--- snip ---
/dev/sdg1: UUID="68f8d933-a2a1-40eb-916f-eba5582c8968" BLOCK_SIZE="4096" TYPE="ext4" PARTUUID="db4d27ce-01"
--- snip ---
# No idea how that happened, but it did.
Question:
Manually changing all instances of the system UUID for the correct one will do?
If not, which is the easiest/fastest way to fix this?
Thanks.
Best,
A.
Hello:
... for future thread visitors ...
Thanks for that.
I have been using Conezilla-live without issues but, as it is Debian based, wanting make it Devuan based.
I had a look at what is available in the Devuan repositories but it is only the Clonezilla SE version.
The links you have posted are definitely a very worthwhile find.
That said, putting Clonezilla in your system drive seems like a good idea because everything gets streamlined.
Till the streamlining goes south along with the systerm drive. 8^°
Having Clonezilla-live on a USB drive will always be a necessary option.
My Sun Ultra 24 has an on-board internal USB socket from which (years ago) I would boot a maintenance TCore Linux installation with all the tools.
Maybe I could put it to use again.
Thank you very much for your input.
Have a Happy New Year.
Best,
A.
Hello:
... to get clonezilla-live to boot with my keyboard options hard coded.
... dead tilde, right AltGr and no compose key set up.
After a while I traced back to the installation process of any/most Linux installation/s.
The data I needed was located in /etc/default/keyboard, which is where the installation process stores those options.
In my specific case it is this:
$ cat /etc/default/keyboard
# KEYBOARD CONFIGURATION FILE
# Consult the keyboard(5) manual page.
# Set for IBM 82G3294 Model 'M'
#
XKBMODEL="pc105"
XKBLAYOUT="latam"
XKBVARIANT="deadtilde"
XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"
BACKSPACE="guess"
$ So I edited syslinux.cfg to reflect that set of parameters, hoping that the syntax would hold:
--- snip ---
label Clonezilla live
MENU DEFAULT
# MENU HIDE
MENU LABEL Clonezilla live (VGA 800x600)
# MENU PASSWD
kernel /live/vmlinuz
append initrd=/live/initrd.img boot=live union=overlay username=user config components quiet loglevel=0 noswap
edd=on nomodeset enforcing=0 locales=en_GB.UTF-8 keyboard-model=pc105 keyboard-layouts=latam
keyboard-variants=deadtilde ocs_live_run="ocs-live-general" ocs_live_extra_param="" ocs_live_batch="no" vga=788
net.ifnames=0 nosplash i915.blacklist=yes radeonhd.blacklist=yes nouveau.blacklist=yes vmwgfx.enable_fbdev=1
--- snip ---It worked properly: no questions asked and locale/keyboard configuration hard coded in.
That hurdle passed, I got rid of quiet and added all the command line options I use with my Devuan installations.
ie: security=none apparmor=0 nmi_watchdog=0 agp=off ipv6.disable=1 enable_mtrr_cleanup=1
Now, how is it that this tidbit ie: keyboard configuration is not part of the Clonezilla documentation is beyond me.
Not everyone uses what Clonezilla offers as the default settings for locale and keyboard model/layout/variants.
And, just like me they will also find it tiresome to have to set it up every time Clonezilla boots.
One problem I see is that Clonezilla-Live is Debian based ie: systemd crapped and (to me) not trustworthy.
But no doubt about it, I think Clonezilla is a life saver.
Have a Happy New Year.
Best,
A.
Hello:
... specifically this particular subpage ...
Yes, I've been there and read it all.
But all that is specific to clonezilla.
What I am looking for is specific to syslinux / isolinux and/or kernel command line instructions and syntax.
ie: stuff that the various linux installers have been doing for us when we select the language and keyboard options offered at the very start of the installation process.
I recall (long ago) my first attempts to install Linux from floppies on a 486DX (?) Toshiba and it was the same process.
Thanks for your input.
And for taking the time to look it up.
Best,
A.
Hello:
... already disliked CSS ...
Not CSD?
Anyway, there was a really huge row about the nimplementation of CSD in Xfce a couple of years ago at the Xfce forum.
Anyone with a modicum of common sense would have taken notice.
See https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=13689
But no, and here we are.
After all these years (!), devs and maintainers at Xfce haven't managed to get a properly functioning menu editor for Xfce.
Or the only two things I miss from MS Explorer: the Send To -> Any Folder and Snap to Grid actions.
Xfce4 desktop icons still have an atavistic tendency to position themselves as they please on the desktop
It would seem that devs and maintainers at Xfce just copy the shiny flashy crap but can't get the necessary basics right.
... they just do mindless crap because they can.
Maybe it is the same virus that has been affecting Mozilla devs for the longest time?
</old man yelling at clouds>
Here's another one.
Best,
A.
Hello:
... messed up the APPEND line with ...
Indeed ...
With my progressively decaying eyesight. 8^°
This is the working syslinux.cfg:
kernel /live/vmlinuz
append initrd=/live/initrd.img boot=live union=overlay username=user config components quiet loglevel=0 noswap edd=on nomodeset enforcing=0 noeject locales= keyboard-layouts= ocs_live_run="ocs-live-general" ocs_live_extra_param="" ocs_live_batch="no" vga=788 net.ifnames=0 nosplash i915.blacklist=yes radeonhd.blacklist=yes nouveau.blacklist=yes vmwgfx.enable_fbdev=1ie: copy/pasted from the read-only file opened with LO Writer.
Boots without a hitch.
What I want to do is edit the command line to get clonezilla-live to boot with my keyboard options hard coded.
I can easily do that with isomaster or similar software but I first need to know the correct syntax.
ie:
locales=?????
keyboard-layouts=?????
+ whatever else I have to add to the command line to get dead tilde, right AltGr and no compose key set up.
Thanks a lot for your input.
Best,
A.
Hello:
After a scare or two I have taken to, besides my usual BackInTime+Timeshift routines, make full images of my system drive and store them locally, in a makeshift *NAS* (MyBookLive / WRT) and in a set of four IBM 73Gb SAS drives which rotate weekly.
In another life I used Norton Ghost to do something similar at the office but now I am using clonezilla-live-3.2.0-5 to generate the compressed images which I then copy to the MBL/WRT via FTP. Turns out that it is much faster (~40Mb/s) than the native WRT rsync.
The thing is that I need to streamline the clonezilla-live booting process, at least to avoid having to choose various options to get the right keyboard layout every time I run it.
My usual keyboard option is a generic 105 key PC keyboard with Spanish Latin American layout, dead tilde, right AltGr and no compose key but I have not been able to figure out how to insert all that in the syslinux.cfg file.
eg:
These are the options I have to choose at boot time:
model: generic 105-key PC
layout: latam
variant: deadtilde
option: right AltGr and no compose
--- snip ---
kernel /live/vmlinuz
append initrd=/live/initrd.img boot=live union=overlay username=user config components quiet loglevel=0 noswap
edd=on nomodeset enforcing=0 noeject locales= keyboard-layouts= ocs_live_run="ocs-live-general"
ocs_live_extra_param="" ocs_live_batch="no" vga=788 net.ifnames=0 nosplash i915.blacklist=yes
radeonhd.blacklist=yes nouveau.blacklist=yes vmwgfx.enable_fbdev=1
--- snip ---Where do I put all that if there is only locales= and keyboard-layouts= to use?
What would the correct syntaxis be?
Thanks in advance.
Best,
A.
Hello:
Just a (belated) comment / heads-up:
... enough RAM (4 GB or more) ...
My Devuan Daedalus system runs on a box with a 120GB SSD and 8GB RAM.
As my conky swap file use always read nought, I decided to reduce it to 2.6GB just in case some application looks for a swap file.
I plan to reduce it further should I need more space in / or /home.
Long after that, I set up a tmpfs like you suggested.
It ran without a hitch till a couple of days ago when I had a system lock-up while streaming a video.
Something I had never encountered before and made me fear for my system's SSD.
After making a full Clonezilla image of my system drive, I had a look (among other things) at df -h and found that it was set up with a capacity of 3.9GB, something I was not aware of:
$ df -h
--- snip ---
tmpfs 3.9G 18M 2.0G 1% /home/groucho/.cache/mozilla/firefox
--- snip ---
$ This is 50% of the available physical system RAM in my box.
And the default value tmpfs claims when it is set up without specifying the desired size.
In this specific case, it was more than the amount assigned* to /dev/shm:
$ df -h | grep tmpfs
tmpfs 788M 800K 787M 1% /run
tmpfs 5.0M 8.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock
tmpfs 2.1G 0 2.1G 0% /dev/shm
tmpfs 3.9G 20M 2.0G 1% /home/groucho/.cache/mozilla/firefox
tmpfs 788M 8.0K 788M 1% /run/user/1000
$* apparently limited by the amount of available RAM in a system
Suspecting some sort of conflict (?) somewhere, I did some searching and found this tidbit which may be of use.
I have now set it up with a specified size of 2GB:
$ cat /etc/fstab
--- snip ---
tmpfs /home/groucho/.cache/mozilla/firefox tmpfs nosuid,nodev,noatime,user,uid=1000,size=2G 0 0$ df -h
--- snip ---
tmpfs 2.0G 18M 2.0G 1% /home/groucho/.cache/mozilla/firefox
--- snip ---
$ I really don't really know if the two lockups I had were caused by my system using a 3.9GB tmpfs but I'll report back if I get another lock-up.
Best,
A.
Hello:
Hooray for ...
It seems that the term enshitification was coined especially this type of crap.
Unbelievable (albeit not unexpected).
The Xfce crowd have been heading towards it for the longest while.
Best,
A.
Hello:
A hearty season's geeting (Merry Christmas / other celebrations, etc.) to all here at Dev1.
Especially so to all those who keep the Devuan project moving forward.
Best,
A.
Hello:
When to upgrade?
Hmmm ...
Never?
... meet a bug:
See?
Best,
A.
Hello:
... the only old geezer who runs pure ALSA and nothing else?
Let's see ...
Old ☑
Geezer ☑ -> actually, one of the US english slang terms for 'old'.
Pure ALSA ☑
Yes, add me to the list.
Add me to that list!
Nope.
Nocando Miss ...
Just using pure ALSA is not enough to qualify for that list.
Best,
A.
Hello:
... like to get Devuan going on it!
Check one of these, there may be something useful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTXXvxUjd-A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9wbCOajZ2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M_yOwBoCA8
No, I have not seen the videos.
Best,
A.
Hello:
... had a disruptive space on the line making it be "RESUME= none" .
I could have sworn I did a copy/paste of the original text by fsmithred.
Evidently not.
... the file gets processed as a shell script ...
... experience the shell script difference between the two lines lines:RESUME=none RESUME= none
In other words, a syntax error (?)
... first line sets RESUME to "none" ...
... second line sets RESUME to the empty string for a sub shell attempting to execute a program named "none".
Thank you for taking the time to explain all this.
Learn something every day.
... simple mistake to make ...
... usability coefficient for initramfs-tools has room to be raised.
And I should have checked ... 8^°
But it worked, I am no longer getting that line in my dmesg:
ie:
--- snip ---
[ 24.068315] PM: Image not found (code -22)
--- snip ---Thank you very much for your input.
Best,
A.
Hello.
Not so sure ...
Not willing to let it go at that, I went over the error message again ...
# update-initramfs -u
--- snip ---
/usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: 5: /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume: none: not found
--- snip ---
#... because it had to be a spelling or syntax problem.
ie: my bad.
I tried with misspelling none -> nones and got this:
# update-initramfs -u
--- snip ---
W: initramfs-tools configuration sets RESUME=nones
W: but no matching swap device is available.
--- snip ---
#The system does not find a matching swap device, but that is not the error I previously had.
So I tried using the syntax that the error message actually printed out, ie: resume: none <- a space in the wrong place
and then got the original error message:
# update-initramfs -u
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.1.0-28-amd64
/usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: 5: /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume: none: not found
I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sda3
I: (UUID=f0187ff0-be52-4bbc-9461-40f744554b85)
I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
live-boot: core filesystems dm-verity devices utils udev blockdev dns.
# So ...
Mystery solved.
ie: a severe case of PEBCAK. 8^°
Once again, thanks for your input.
Best,
A.
Hello:
Please show the file in that failing use case, when you set RESUME=none ...
I had deleted the edited file and returned to the back-up I saved.
So I re-edited it now.
$ cat /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume
# changed 06122024
# see https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=53266#p53266
# this box does not use hibernation / resume
RESUME=none
# RESUME=UUID=f0187ff0-be52-4bbc-9461-40f744554b85
$ But now it works.
# update-initramfs -u
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.1.0-28-amd64
live-boot: core filesystems dm-verity devices utils udev blockdev dns.
#I'm sure I had written / spelled it correctly.
But if it did not work, there was obviously something amiss.
Maybe the added comments?
Not so sure now. 8^/
Thank you very much for your input.
Best,
A.
Hello:
Please show ...
$ cat /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume
RESUME=UUID=f0187ff0-be52-4bbc-9461-40f744554b85
$ $ sudo blkid
--- snip ---
/dev/sdb3: UUID="f0187ff0-be52-4bbc-9461-40f744554b85" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="0004a8f4-03"
--- snip ---
$ Is there another file ...
No, just that one.
$ ls /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/
resume
$ Thank you for your input.
Best,
A.
Hello:
This topic is a split from this this thread.
(See posts #19 / #20)
--- split ---
... want to hibernate to disk, replace "none" with the uuid of your swap partition.
--- /split---
That is exactly what my box has and the UUID is the swap file.
But it happens that I do not keep my system on all day, just shut down and reboot as needed.
ie: there is no hibernation image present, never set it up to hibernate.
At some point my dmesg printout reads:
--- snip ---
[ 24.068315] PM: Image not found (code -22)
--- snip ---Q:
Does the system look for a hibernation image at boot time because the line in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume is not set to =none and there is a valid (swap file) UUID present?
If I edit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume and set RESUME=none, on updating I get this:
# update-initramfs -u
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.1.0-28-amd64
/usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: 5: /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume: none: not found
I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sdb3
I: (UUID=f0187ff0-be52-4bbc-9461-40f744554b85)
I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
live-boot: core filesystems dm-verity devices utils udev blockdev dns.
# The system looks for a swap file and not finding one with a UUID of none, finds one with a valid UUID and uses it.
But like I said, I never set the system up for hibernation and although the system finds a swap file to hibernate, it does not (as dmesg indicates) find an image. (I am assuming it is a hibernation image)
How to solve this?
Thanks in advance.
Best,
A.
Hello:
@Altoid no worried from me about thread-jacking ...
Thanks, but it is your thread ie: started by you.
... forum decorum being what it is ...
... is the reason I made reference to thread-jacking.
But I see no need to change anything.
My piggybacked question was posted on the answer fsmithred posted for you.
Still your thread.
Best,
A.
Hello:
This post caught my eye.
Don't want to hijack the thread but seems relevant.
So just one question, if I may.
Please let me know if it warrants a separate thread.
... want to hibernate to disk, replace "none" with the uuid of your swap partition.
That is exactly what my box has and the UUID is the swap file.
But it happens that I do not keep my system on all day, just shut down and reboot.
ie: there is no hibernation image present, never set it up to hibernate.
At some point my dmesg printout reads:
--- snip ---
[ 24.068315] PM: Image not found (code -22)
--- snip ---Q:
Does the system look for a hibernation image at boot time because the line in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume is not set to =none and there is a valid (swap file) UUID present?
If I edit /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume and set RESUME=none, on updating I get this:
# update-initramfs -u
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.1.0-28-amd64
/usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: 5: /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume: none: not found
I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sdb3
I: (UUID=f0187ff0-be52-4bbc-9461-40f744554b85)
I: Set the RESUME variable to override this.
live-boot: core filesystems dm-verity devices utils udev blockdev dns.
# The system looks for a swap file and not finding one with a UUID of none, finds one and uses it.
What to do?
Best,
A.
Hello:
@Rolfie
Check here for the slim package in Devuan:
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli … m&x=submit
Best,
A.
Hello:
@Ron
See https://www.linux.org/threads/clearing- … ost-250695
Since you are using Devuan you do not need to flush the DNS Cache it does not cache DNS lookups - depending if you installed it with SysVInit or RunIt - since there is no systemd any systemd commands will not work such as systemctl
You router may cache them but all non-systemd Linux OSes do not DNS cache as far as I know
That said, I run a Chimaera VM with pi-hole and unbound inside my Daedalus box.
There is a DNS cache but it is mine.
It can be flushed though the UI.
Best,
A.
Hello:
They cannot be disabled, there are no options to do so ...
That is a proper developer / programmer reply, states facts as they are and (sort of) explains why.
ie: textbook proper
... feel free to send a patch upstream to implement such a feature if you want to do so.
That is a proper assholican / idiotic reply.
ie: textbook proper
A.
Hello:
... sky is blue, the sun rose in the east again, and Lennart is still an asshole.
I used to think more or less along the same lines.
But after reflecting on the matter (on and off fashion) I came to the conclusion that he may be an asshole, an idiot of sorts too.
---> But he is quite clearly a capable developer / programmer. <---
Just why do you think he is working for YouKnowWho?
I'd try to avoid continuing to underestimate Poettering, at your+everyone else's peril.
What I once labelled as being an asshole+idiot was the result of my frustration at what was going on.
But then I realised that it was my reaction (questionable and angry ad hominem manner) against the fact that he had evidently been working to infect Debian with the infamous systemd* for quite a long time, maybe years.
You do not come up with such complex shit overnight, no matter how capable you are.
After that, he outed himself by openly going to work for MS, where he now continues with the classic +30 year old Embrace Extend and Extinguish process we are all familiar with, process that he surely started from inside Debian much before systemd was ever heard of.
* nothing but an MS registry for the Linux ecosytem
And here we are.
Best,
A.
Hello:
... could not find an easy way to do that ...
You can also do it via email.
See here: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
Sending the bug report via e-mail
--- snip ---
You can report bugs in Debian by sending an e-mail to submit@bugs.debian.org with a special format described below. reportbug (see above) will properly format the e-mails for you; please use it!
--- snip ---
I guess that as long as it is properly formatted, it will not bounce / be ignored.
Maybe just avoid mentioning Devuan ... 8^°
Best,
A.