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#3001 Re: Documentation » HOWTO: Post-Installation Configurations » 2017-10-06 20:46:01

Fair 'nuf.  A short stint with Ubuntu years ago cured me of the sudo disease.  But let's not sidetrack your howto with THAT discussion.

#3002 Re: Documentation » HOWTO: Post-Installation Configurations » 2017-10-06 19:43:46

Sudo? Really?  Ah now maybe I understand.  Perhaps you're used to Ubuntu's bad habits . . .

#3003 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] wine32 in Devuan 1.0 Jessie 64 bit ? » 2017-10-06 15:08:45

That's a handy howto, Myio.  Hopefully I'll remember it when I finally get on ascii.

And an OT note . . . on your wiki page you say:

There is also an "unofficial" Devuan forum which may be used.

We've been 'official' for many months now.  wink

#3004 Re: Off-topic » Arguments against systemd » 2017-10-06 14:40:15

devel wrote:
golinux wrote:

If all the "wontfix" issues were included in this graph the numbers would be MUCH higher:

"WONTFIX" is not a thing on github, it is just something used colloquially to mean "a bug closed without any action being taken". All the "WONTFIX"es in systemd are just closed bugs and thus part of the graph you referenced.

It would be nice if we could get the facts straight so that it is harder to reject our claims as invalid.

Maybe I'm missing something - wouldn't be the first time -  but just because Lennart has decreed a bug as wontfix doesn't mean that the bug doesn't exist so it's in effect still an open bug.  Which means the number of existing bugs is probably much higher than the 'open' bugs indicates and the number of fixed 'closed' bugs much lower..

#3005 Re: Off-topic » Arguments against systemd » 2017-10-05 23:00:11

My favorite systemd analysis:
http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/ker … 02496.html

And data from the systemd camp tells the story . . . If you scroll down this page you will see two graphs that say it all:
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/

If all the "wontfix" issues were included in this graph the numbers would be MUCH higher:
https://in.waw.pl/systemd-github-state/ … issues.svg

#3006 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta forum temporarily down » 2017-10-05 22:17:50

I have offered the VPS where d1g used to be if he wants to migrate the forum there in a more acceptable format.   But that might not be so easy to do now that tapatalk has mucked around with the DB.

#3007 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] wine32 in Devuan 1.0 Jessie 64 bit ? » 2017-10-05 17:24:17

All compatible Debian packages are in the Devuan merged repos.  Do not use Debian pkgs directly.

Have you installed the multiarch packages?

#3009 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta forum temporarily down » 2017-10-05 05:50:33

Forced migration of Free Forums to tapatalk.  Tapatalk is more geared to the facebook and mobile device crowd than Linux geeks.

#3010 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Early doors: King-Pigeon series and friends [AKA Modular Linux] » 2017-10-03 23:36:59

JoshuaFlynn wrote:
greenjeans wrote:

I kept thinking about this project yesterday, and it struck me that the very detailed listings in that script would be perfect for a live-sdk "blend" file too, that may be something to look at.

I've never heard of a live-sdk blend file before, could you tell me more about it?

Simple Distro Kit (SDK) is a Devuan thing.  There's a lot of info on the devuan.org site.  wink

#3011 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Early doors: King-Pigeon series and friends [AKA Modular Linux] » 2017-10-03 05:39:39

JoshuaFlynn wrote:

That's what got me confused, when people say experimental I'm thinking Ubuntu style of a tag you'd append in the repositories (which I tried and naturally it threw angry errors at me), as opposed to ASCII. I realise ASCII is where all the fun is at, however in trying it (updating sources.list and apt-get update) I was a bit confused as I couldn't see eudev or vdev, is there something I'm missing?

Maybe this will help?  https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list

Or this? https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list.d/

#3013 Re: Forum Feedback » Registration questions are questionable. » 2017-10-03 01:36:06

Tor doesn't work for registering either.  Have you seen Can't register because you are a 'spammer'?  If someone gets thwarted by the spam measures and really wants to be here, they can contact us to do it manually.  We've done it several times.  Personally I despise captchas.  But let's see what the backend admins think about your suggestions.

As to trolls . . . have you read our (almost) no code of conduct?

Your enthusiasm is commendable.  But your thoughts have been a bit much for me to process.  Mostly I tune out after about two paras . . .  wink

#3014 Re: Other Issues » When is Amprolla3 coming? » 2017-10-02 23:16:03

@golinux was a squeaky wheel earlier today . . . every so often it works.  wink

#3015 Off-topic » Charitable contributions via amazon » 2017-10-02 21:27:20

golinux
Replies: 1

Thoughts about using smile.amazon.com to support charitable groups?  Any downside other than  'they' can track what you are supporting?

#3016 Re: Other Issues » When is Amprolla3 coming? » 2017-10-02 14:54:36

@sgage . . . Pretty much all of us lowly forum dwellers are in the dark

#3017 Re: Forum Feedback » Registration questions are questionable. » 2017-10-02 14:53:37

@JoshuaFlynn . . . There is no google recaptcha on this forum.  FWIW we also use the SFS db to filter out bots which has actually caused more trouble than the questions because of spam tainted IP blocks especially on VPNs.

#3018 Re: Forum Feedback » Registration questions are questionable. » 2017-10-01 19:54:20

NFT5 wrote:

Some good comments and ideas there.

Let me add a few complications....

"What's the truckers channel?" In Australia there is no such thing as a 'trucker', they're 'truckies', as are 'bikers', 'bikies', and the radio channel used is 40. Even those of us who use UHF radio probably wouldn't have the faintest clue what channel is used in North America, which, I think, is still 27MHz anyway.

Questions on pronunciation can be equally as difficult. For the word 'defeat' we say diff-eet with accent on the second syllable, as opposed to dee-feet with accent on the first. Asked to type how I'd pronounce 'Devuan' I'd likely put 'dev-wahn'. Pronouncekiwi has some interesting variations.

So even for English speakers this can be hard, harder still for those even from Latin based languages and nigh on impossible for those who come from an East Asian background. Anyone tried to decipher pronunciation in Pinyin?

Agreed on pronuciation questions.  FTR, there is an 'official' audio rendering of Devuan here

Colours. My business revolves around colours and not in a pink fit would I describe the Devuan scheme as 'purple'. Violet grey, perhaps.

We call it Purpy.  But purple seemed close enough.   

Staying a step ahead of the bots is one thing but keeping the questions answerable is another. Good luck.

This site was bot-proofed 247 days ago.  In those months it has stopped over 16.000 bots dead in their tracks.  The numbers are constantly escalating.  A few days ago we had over 550 blocked in a 24 hour period.  Not one has gotten through yet.  So the system works and is non-negotiable.

New and improved questions are always welcome.

golinux

#3019 Re: Devuan » [SOLVED] Devuan's advertising » 2017-10-01 18:02:42

Ah . . . that's what I was thinking.  Just wanted to make sure.

Links to Devuan-related sites are always welcome.  The use of the logo may be more restricted depending on how it's being used.  Might be a good question to post to dng.   Jaromil would be the one to ask.

#3020 Re: Devuan » [SOLVED] Devuan's advertising » 2017-10-01 16:44:55

What's an S.O.?  Dyslexic typo?

#3021 Re: Other Issues » When is Amprolla3 coming? » 2017-10-01 15:54:35

Those are the elephants in the room, aren't they . . .

Unfortunately, no crystal ball here.

#3022 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can't identify Linux distribution **SOLVED** » 2017-09-29 15:40:04

When I access "users and groups", Devuan is also not listed. I check Debian and it works just fine.

#3023 Re: Devuan » can be udevil a alternative to udev? » 2017-09-29 05:04:01

JoshuaFlynn wrote:

When you say experimental, do you mean experimental in ASCII or experimental in Jessie?

The experimental repo is not tied to a release afaik.

#3024 Re: Devuan Derivatives » The great systemd register, Mk II » 2017-09-29 04:59:31

@JoshuaFlynn . . .

Working backwards . . .

You can share artwork on the Friends of Devuan wiki.

Packagers who can help to clean out systemd dependencies are always welcome.  Have you seen the Devuan packaging helper?  Check with parazyd about which packages are a priority.

Once you have your distro together, please post to the derivatives forum.

golinux

#3025 Re: Devuan Derivatives » The great systemd register, Mk II » 2017-09-28 05:08:32

Every bit of information adds depth and every new pair of eyes a new perspective.  Welcome to the forum.  smile

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