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#2976 Re: Other Issues » When is Amprolla3 coming? » 2017-10-07 20:50:06
#2977 Re: Off-topic » Arguments against systemd » 2017-10-07 06:57:59
If you think that reinventing the wheel is a good use of your time, go for it. We have more important things to do. Devuan will fail or succeed on its own merits, There is no need to 'win' over users who should be intelligent enough to find the many excellent analyses that are already available (and have been for years).
#2978 Re: Off-topic » Arguments against systemd » 2017-10-07 04:00:27
This thread serves no purpose except as troll bait (and it worked). So can you please take a deep breath, leave the dramatic gestures and defensiveness aside and take it down a notch. Thanks.
#2979 Re: Off-topic » Arguments against systemd » 2017-10-07 02:58:32
We do not have a "lack have of code of conduct". We have an (almost) No Code of Conduct. I personally don't see how anything good can come of rehashing this topic (which has been beaten to death for many years). it is also a waste of bandwidth, But let it continue for a while. Hopefully it will grind to a halt with not even a whimper.
#2980 Re: Off-topic » Arguments against systemd » 2017-10-07 02:06:03
Good grief . . . 2641 words (including quotes). You really have outdone yourself this time. Perhaps this might a good time to lock it?
#2981 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Devuan skypeforlinux dependency problem » 2017-10-06 22:00:06
Have you tried backports?
#2982 Re: Documentation » HOWTO: Post-Installation Configurations » 2017-10-06 20:46:01
Fair 'nuf. A short stint with Ubuntu years ago cured me of the sudo disease. But let's not sidetrack your howto with THAT discussion.
#2983 Re: Documentation » HOWTO: Post-Installation Configurations » 2017-10-06 19:43:46
Sudo? Really? Ah now maybe I understand. Perhaps you're used to Ubuntu's bad habits . . .
#2984 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] wine32 in Devuan 1.0 Jessie 64 bit ? » 2017-10-06 15:08:45
That's a handy howto, Myio. Hopefully I'll remember it when I finally get on ascii.
And an OT note . . . on your wiki page you say:
There is also an "unofficial" Devuan forum which may be used.
We've been 'official' for many months now. 
#2985 Re: Off-topic » Arguments against systemd » 2017-10-06 14:40:15
golinux wrote:If all the "wontfix" issues were included in this graph the numbers would be MUCH higher:
"WONTFIX" is not a thing on github, it is just something used colloquially to mean "a bug closed without any action being taken". All the "WONTFIX"es in systemd are just closed bugs and thus part of the graph you referenced.
It would be nice if we could get the facts straight so that it is harder to reject our claims as invalid.
Maybe I'm missing something - wouldn't be the first time - but just because Lennart has decreed a bug as wontfix doesn't mean that the bug doesn't exist so it's in effect still an open bug. Which means the number of existing bugs is probably much higher than the 'open' bugs indicates and the number of fixed 'closed' bugs much lower..
#2986 Re: Off-topic » Arguments against systemd » 2017-10-05 23:00:11
My favorite systemd analysis:
http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/ker … 02496.html
And data from the systemd camp tells the story . . . If you scroll down this page you will see two graphs that say it all:
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/
If all the "wontfix" issues were included in this graph the numbers would be MUCH higher:
https://in.waw.pl/systemd-github-state/ … issues.svg
#2987 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta forum temporarily down » 2017-10-05 22:17:50
I have offered the VPS where d1g used to be if he wants to migrate the forum there in a more acceptable format. But that might not be so easy to do now that tapatalk has mucked around with the DB.
#2988 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] wine32 in Devuan 1.0 Jessie 64 bit ? » 2017-10-05 17:24:17
All compatible Debian packages are in the Devuan merged repos. Do not use Debian pkgs directly.
Have you installed the multiarch packages?
#2989 Re: Installation » libgnutls.so.28 » 2017-10-05 17:22:23
Did you try it?
#2990 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Refracta forum temporarily down » 2017-10-05 05:50:33
Forced migration of Free Forums to tapatalk. Tapatalk is more geared to the facebook and mobile device crowd than Linux geeks.
#2991 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Early doors: King-Pigeon series and friends [AKA Modular Linux] » 2017-10-03 23:36:59
greenjeans wrote:I kept thinking about this project yesterday, and it struck me that the very detailed listings in that script would be perfect for a live-sdk "blend" file too, that may be something to look at.
I've never heard of a live-sdk blend file before, could you tell me more about it?
Simple Distro Kit (SDK) is a Devuan thing. There's a lot of info on the devuan.org site.
#2992 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Early doors: King-Pigeon series and friends [AKA Modular Linux] » 2017-10-03 05:39:39
That's what got me confused, when people say experimental I'm thinking Ubuntu style of a tag you'd append in the repositories (which I tried and naturally it threw angry errors at me), as opposed to ASCII. I realise ASCII is where all the fun is at, however in trying it (updating sources.list and apt-get update) I was a bit confused as I couldn't see eudev or vdev, is there something I'm missing?
Maybe this will help? https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list
#2993 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Early doors: King-Pigeon series and friends [AKA Modular Linux] » 2017-10-03 05:01:29
Actually it's in the devuan ascii repo (or so says this pkg list) http://devuanpackages.viralds.it/ascii/package/yad
#2994 Re: Forum Feedback » Registration questions are questionable. » 2017-10-03 01:36:06
Tor doesn't work for registering either. Have you seen Can't register because you are a 'spammer'? If someone gets thwarted by the spam measures and really wants to be here, they can contact us to do it manually. We've done it several times. Personally I despise captchas. But let's see what the backend admins think about your suggestions.
As to trolls . . . have you read our (almost) no code of conduct?
Your enthusiasm is commendable. But your thoughts have been a bit much for me to process. Mostly I tune out after about two paras . . .
#2995 Re: Other Issues » When is Amprolla3 coming? » 2017-10-02 23:16:03
@golinux was a squeaky wheel earlier today . . . every so often it works.
#2996 Off-topic » Charitable contributions via amazon » 2017-10-02 21:27:20
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Thoughts about using smile.amazon.com to support charitable groups? Any downside other than 'they' can track what you are supporting?
#2997 Re: Other Issues » When is Amprolla3 coming? » 2017-10-02 14:54:36
@sgage . . . Pretty much all of us lowly forum dwellers are in the dark
#2998 Re: Forum Feedback » Registration questions are questionable. » 2017-10-02 14:53:37
@JoshuaFlynn . . . There is no google recaptcha on this forum. FWIW we also use the SFS db to filter out bots which has actually caused more trouble than the questions because of spam tainted IP blocks especially on VPNs.
#2999 Re: Forum Feedback » Registration questions are questionable. » 2017-10-01 19:54:20
Some good comments and ideas there.
Let me add a few complications....
"What's the truckers channel?" In Australia there is no such thing as a 'trucker', they're 'truckies', as are 'bikers', 'bikies', and the radio channel used is 40. Even those of us who use UHF radio probably wouldn't have the faintest clue what channel is used in North America, which, I think, is still 27MHz anyway.
Questions on pronunciation can be equally as difficult. For the word 'defeat' we say diff-eet with accent on the second syllable, as opposed to dee-feet with accent on the first. Asked to type how I'd pronounce 'Devuan' I'd likely put 'dev-wahn'. Pronouncekiwi has some interesting variations.
So even for English speakers this can be hard, harder still for those even from Latin based languages and nigh on impossible for those who come from an East Asian background. Anyone tried to decipher pronunciation in Pinyin?
Agreed on pronuciation questions. FTR, there is an 'official' audio rendering of Devuan here
Colours. My business revolves around colours and not in a pink fit would I describe the Devuan scheme as 'purple'. Violet grey, perhaps.
We call it Purpy. But purple seemed close enough.
Staying a step ahead of the bots is one thing but keeping the questions answerable is another. Good luck.
This site was bot-proofed 247 days ago. In those months it has stopped over 16.000 bots dead in their tracks. The numbers are constantly escalating. A few days ago we had over 550 blocked in a 24 hour period. Not one has gotten through yet. So the system works and is non-negotiable.
New and improved questions are always welcome.
golinux
#3000 Re: Devuan » [SOLVED] Devuan's advertising » 2017-10-01 18:02:42
Ah . . . that's what I was thinking. Just wanted to make sure.
Links to Devuan-related sites are always welcome. The use of the logo may be more restricted depending on how it's being used. Might be a good question to post to dng. Jaromil would be the one to ask.
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