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But perhaps it's not so bad an idea if you build a list of hosters where devuan is either a clickable option or can be migrated to, even if it's only maintained until people get tired of poettering about and demand systemd-free hosting.
. . . I haven't seen a single hoster that actually offers Devuan templates yet. I've tried a bit of lobbying here or there but so far no luck.
Two options were included in the ASCII stable announcement. That info is posted in two places on the devuan.org website.
https://devuan.org/os/debian-fork/ascii … nce-060818
https://devuan.org/os/install
AWS used to have a devuan image available. Perhaps one of you could confirm. As to Hetzner . . . according to one of our devs:
<DocScrutinizer05> >>Hetzner which are offering Devuan<< hmm? I just checked, seems they can't find "devuan" even in their support pages
<DocScrutinizer05> of course you can install your own OS with Hetzner
<DocScrutinizer05> if Hetzner actually has any support for devuan beyond that generic "BYOOS", it's prolly quite worth elaborting about it in devuan's publications, since on Hetzner it's unknown
<DocScrutinizer05> https://github.com/hetzneronline/installimage
<Irrwahn> DocScrutinizer05: You are correct, Hetzner does not provide a Devuan install image. For our Finnish Maid we had to go the Debian -> Devuan route just recently.
Anglese only , si vous plait...))
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Have you asked for a refund?
I hear you. You made your point (rather dramatically) and I will now butt out. But before I go, I have a suggestion. Could you please put [ code ] tags around all the c/p from the terminal like this? There's even a point and clicky menu above the input box to help you do it.
# deb cdrom:[devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_netinst]/ ascii main non-free
# deb cdrom:[devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_netinst]/ ascii main non-free
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii main non-free contrib
deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii main non-free contrib MIYO + what looks like a radura symbol.
So I go to find one and discover it's been 'sanitized' with greeny goodness.
Good grief!!!

msi wrote:
So, mate-power-manager here is a third-party package that has apparently been rebuilt so it won't depend on systemdSo will this rebuilt mate-power-manager find its way into Devuan's repos?
Yes. antofox maintains MATE for Devuan.
Good grief. You do have an overactive imagination. It a GNU and quite harmless.
It indicates other Linux distros in a generic way if a specific icon is not available.

@colby . . . you should not have any packages installed directly from the Debian repos. Doing so could really break your your system. Packages from the Debian repos are pulled by amprolla via a redirect that filters out incompatible packages.
The following network-manager packages are available in the ascii repos:
https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pk … ease=ascii
The mate packages, unless they are very new, should also be available on the Devuan repos. I let you do your own searching.
@msi . . . have you checked ascii-proposed for the newest mate-power-manager?
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Yada Yada
You'll have to post it online somewhere if you don't have access to a server.
thank you Siva. you are right my question did have 2 sides and you did answer both completely.
no, I will not use Devuan unstable completely but check if there are packages not available in Devuan Jessie being able to be used by pinning in Devuan Jessie. I hope pinning is possible?
Why not look in ASCII and/or Beowulf repos for what you need before jumping to Ceres.
Maybe xrandr?
Please report bugs to http://bugs.devuan.org It's easy to do by email following the instructions.
snapd is on the banned package list for systemd dependency. So no you wouldn't be able to install snaps on Devuan. Unless, of course, you adopt and maintain that package to remove the dependency from release to release.
Some DMs are more friendly that others to setting locales. KDE can be a bit fussy with this. Please read the Release notes and also search this forum for KDE.
Have you read the Release notes? I suspect something is amiss with the backend combo needed for your setup.
Why anyone would recommend appimage, flatpak or snaps is beyond me. It's a great way to bloat your system. And is there any way to know what exactly is in those options of convenience?
Even on the Falkon page, the first recommendation is to "install falkon package from your distribution’s repositories".
Start with backports and work your way further from ASCII. Be prepared that it may or may not go smoothly. Not much has been done on beowulf yet.
Backports is an optional repository that builds testing pkgs for stable. Add it to your sources.list. But be selective and only install the pkgs that you need, not everything that's available in there.
Have you checked ASCII backports? Maybe you could package it yourself if all else fails. At least they aren't on the list of banned packages so that's a good start.
Have you checked pkginfo.devuan.org? And also backports?
The recommended sources are defined here:
https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list
deb.devuan.org is a pool of mirrors that are all synced to pkgmaster.
The maintainer of that wiki will hopefully be changing that presently .
There is no reason to assume that in Debian sysvinit, openrc and runit will continue to be available or that every application won't require systemd to work.