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#2526 Re: Installation » Hosted VPS server migration from debian to devuan hosed » 2018-06-17 16:07:04

Some feedback from irc.

<Irrwahn> golinux: That's just install via some ISO image. That's not the same as an officially supported install image, but more like "bring your own OS". And it will only work for VMs, not dedicated machines, unless you rent a KVM + virtual drive console.
<Irrwahn> By this metric virtually any old hosting company in existence can be said to have an "Install Devuan" option.

and then . . .

<Irrwahn> He could probably do that himself. ISTR that basically any customer can deposit any ISO (that meets some criteria) at their store.

and finally:

<Irrwahn> Overall, the important takeaway is: When you run Devuan on a Hetzner machine, you do so at your own devise and own risk, no support.
<Irrwahn> And that's different from their "official" OS choices.

#2527 Re: Installation » Hosted VPS server migration from debian to devuan hosed » 2018-06-17 15:07:42

@devuser . . . That's fantastic news!  The process is a bit daunting though - not for the faint-hearted.  I should probably add Hetzner to the list and include a link to your post above.  Could you possibly contact them requesting either an update to or addition of the ASCII iso?

#2528 Re: Forum Feedback » Let's make this forum multilingual! (Calling for language authors) » 2018-06-16 23:17:31

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

It reminds me that I'm still sitting still on the Swedish translation sad

LOL!  I thought that but resisted the urge . . .   wink

#2529 Re: Forum Feedback » Let's make this forum multilingual! (Calling for language authors) » 2018-06-16 23:16:21

Dutch_Master wrote:

OK, if it's that simple I'll have a look into the Dutch language pack then. Can't make any promises as there's a lot on my plate already. Can these files be opened by LibreOffice and more importantly, edited and saved in the correct format?

My advice is to stay away from LO for any text/config files.  Please use a text editor like mousepad or Pluma or geany etc..

If Dutch works, I may try my hand at German too. But as a non-native speaker I'm not sure my options/solutions/translations would be best suited. For now, that's of no concern, first the Dutch language pack to solve before anything else!

If you would provide Dutch that would be most appreciated!

#2530 Re: Forum Feedback » Much ado about nothing » 2018-06-16 21:19:00

Thankfully, for the moment this is a troll-free zone.

(Make a sacrifice to your favorite idol to ensure that it stays that way . . . LOL!!!)

#2531 Re: Installation » Hosted VPS server migration from debian to devuan hosed » 2018-06-16 21:15:07

ks wrote:

But perhaps it's not so bad an idea if you build a list of hosters where devuan is either a clickable option or can be migrated to, even if it's only maintained until people get tired of poettering about and demand systemd-free hosting.

devuser wrote:

. . . I haven't seen a single hoster that actually offers Devuan templates yet. I've tried a bit of lobbying here or there but so far no luck.

Two options were included in the ASCII stable announcement.  That info is posted in two places on the devuan.org website.

https://devuan.org/os/debian-fork/ascii … nce-060818
https://devuan.org/os/install

AWS used to have a devuan image available.  Perhaps one of you could confirm.  As to Hetzner . . . according to one of our devs:

<DocScrutinizer05> >>Hetzner which are offering Devuan<< hmm? I just checked, seems they can't find "devuan" even in their support pages
<DocScrutinizer05> of course you can install your own OS with Hetzner
<DocScrutinizer05> if Hetzner actually has any support for devuan beyond that generic "BYOOS", it's prolly quite worth elaborting about it in devuan's publications, since on Hetzner it's unknown
<DocScrutinizer05> https://github.com/hetzneronline/installimage
<Irrwahn> DocScrutinizer05: You are correct, Hetzner does not provide a Devuan install image. For our Finnish Maid we had to go the Debian -> Devuan route just recently.

#2532 Re: Forum Feedback » Let's make this forum multilingual! (Calling for language authors) » 2018-06-16 21:01:56

sacioz wrote:

Anglese only , si vous plait...))

The default option for translation of the forum controls is English.  Every user has the choice of which language to choose.

#2534 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » MATE 1.20 on devuan ascii » 2018-06-15 22:54:33

I hear you. You made your point (rather dramatically) and I will now butt out.  But before I go, I have a suggestion.  Could you please put [ code ] tags around all the c/p from the terminal like this?  There's even a point and clicky menu above the input box to help you do it.

# deb cdrom:[devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_netinst]/ ascii main non-free

# deb cdrom:[devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_netinst]/ ascii main non-free

deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii main non-free contrib
deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii main non-free contrib 

#2535 Re: Off-topic » I didn't do it!!! » 2018-06-15 22:43:04

MIYO + what looks like a radura symbol.
So I go to find one and discover it's been 'sanitized' with greeny goodness.
Good grief!!!

radura

#2536 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » MATE 1.20 on devuan ascii » 2018-06-15 02:40:35

Ron wrote:

msi wrote:
So, mate-power-manager here is a third-party package that has apparently been rebuilt so it won't depend on systemd

So will this rebuilt mate-power-manager find its way into Devuan's repos?

Yes.  antofox maintains MATE for Devuan.

#2537 Re: Other Issues » Strange symbol in Devuan grub menu? » 2018-06-14 22:57:31

Good grief.  You do have an overactive imagination.  It a GNU and quite harmless.

It indicates other Linux distros in a generic way if a specific icon is not available.

gnu/Linux

#2538 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » MATE 1.20 on devuan ascii » 2018-06-14 22:46:15

@colby . . . you should not have any packages installed directly from the Debian repos.  Doing so could really break your your system.  Packages from the Debian repos are pulled by amprolla via a redirect that filters out incompatible packages.

The following network-manager packages are available in the ascii repos:

https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pk … ease=ascii

The mate packages, unless they are very new, should also be available on the Devuan repos.  I let you do your own searching.

#2539 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » MATE 1.20 on devuan ascii » 2018-06-14 15:59:15

@msi . . . have you checked ascii-proposed for the newest mate-power-manager?

#2540 Re: DIY » My Wallpaper » 2018-06-14 05:08:06

Server not found

Firefox can’t find the server at deve22%20backgrouind.

Yada Yada

#2541 Re: DIY » My Wallpaper » 2018-06-14 04:11:04

You'll have to post it online somewhere if you don't have access to a server.

#2542 Re: DIY » My Wallpaper » 2018-06-14 04:02:55

Here's the magic incantation.  Thought this early description of how amprolla works might be an interesting example:

[img=image-description]url-to-image[/img]

amprolla

Or if you want a thumbnail

[url=url-to-full-image][img=image-description]url-to-thumbnail[/img][/url]

amprolla

#2543 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] equivalent for Debian SID available? yes there are, read #3 » 2018-06-13 21:44:51

oui wrote:

thank you Siva. you are right my question did have 2 sides and you did answer both completely.

no, I will not use Devuan unstable completely but check if there are packages not available in Devuan Jessie being able to be used by pinning in Devuan Jessie. I hope pinning is possible?

Why not look in ASCII and/or Beowulf repos for what you need before jumping to Ceres.

#2545 Re: Installation » Wrong /etc/locale.gen after Ascii net-install with additional locale » 2018-06-13 15:20:03

Please report bugs to http://bugs.devuan.org  It's easy to do by email following the instructions.

#2546 Re: Other Issues » [Solved] Firefox 60 » 2018-06-13 15:13:23

snapd is on the banned package list for systemd dependency.  So no you wouldn't be able to install snaps on Devuan.  Unless, of course, you adopt and maintain that package to remove the dependency from release to release.

#2547 Re: Installation » Installation failure for specific locale (gr) [SOLVED]. » 2018-06-12 15:34:53

Some DMs are more friendly that others to setting locales.  KDE can be a bit fussy with this.  Please read the Release notes and also search this forum for KDE.

#2548 Re: Installation » [Solved] Ascii upgrade (also) messed up this Devuan Jessie » 2018-06-12 15:30:27

Have you read the Release notes?  I suspect something is amiss with the backend combo needed for your setup.

#2549 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Enlightenment & Falkon » 2018-06-12 15:00:10

Why anyone would recommend appimage, flatpak or snaps is beyond me.  It's a great way to bloat your system.  And is there any way to know what exactly is in those options of convenience?

Even on the Falkon page, the first recommendation is to "install falkon package from your distribution’s repositories".

#2550 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Enlightenment & Falkon » 2018-06-12 03:24:29

Start with backports and work your way further from ASCII. Be prepared that it may or may not go smoothly.   Not much has been done on beowulf yet.

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