It might not be as bad as you make it out to be. If firefox is anything to go by in regards to csd then the customization of compact toolbars and modes might be worthwhile.  There will be a period of ugliness though i doubt xfce would want to be a clone of gnome, would be very unoriginal.

plenty of tutorials on the internet "enable usb debugging on smartphone"....

commands to get your tethered link info would be something like.

ip link

whether you build a package of hacks or adhock hacks, you are still hacking which later on down the line could present issues, especially with incompatibilities like systemd

Im a firm believer of it must work for the intended operating system without too many indirection's, if not then well look elsewhere.

Add this one to the list "maybe"....PsychOS (im not affiliated, just found it on distrowatch).

Very retro man!

https://psychoslinux.gitlab.io/index_modern.html

website doesn't format very well on my end?

Distrowatch

https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issu … 13#waiting

Downloads

https://psychoslinux.gitlab.io/downloads.html

also have a look at the link below for the issue with "ifup: wating for lock on /run/network/ifstate.eth0".

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1688

^  afaik, that package houses intel wifi firmware for various devices, not sure why you get that message though, probably spurious.

https://packages.debian.org/buster/firmware-iwlwifi

I think you misread that, i dont blame you either.

1. connection is ok in broadcom land (probably installed brcm80211 driver).

2. not using eth0 lets get rid of it, why is it hanging around fmd, fml.

James, what network manager are you using if any?

sort of defeats the purpose of being systemd free in a way doesnt it? Would openrc be of any help, its easy enough to create startup scripts for openrc.

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Join_FreeIPA

Looks like that version is unavailable in the devuan repos.

You could quite easily create a panel launcher or keyboard shortcut for this.

This is ultimately a user choice as it varies from user to user, some people dont use sudo at all.

Anything to do with Linux headers, Development tools and Vbox is also user choice , i for one would not want them on my install as per default.

So far all ive been able to understand is that it is easier to have /etc/mtab symlinked to /proc/self/mounts in the case of loop devices / losetup. Debian buster uses systemd, so maybe there is a difference in devuan having these symlinks?

You may be right on this, sorry. Man page says....

/proc/mounts
              Before kernel 2.4.19, this file was a list of all the filesys‐
              tems currently mounted on the system.  With the introduction
              of per-process mount namespaces in Linux 2.4.19 (see
              mount_namespaces(7)), this file became a link to
              /proc/self/mounts, which lists the mount points of the
              process's own mount namespace.  The format of this file is
              documented in fstab(5).

Maybe run update-grub again and see if the message disappears.

sudo update-grub