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#1 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2023-10-24 03:21:10

golinux wrote:

@WDstudios . . . Please keep in mind that the main purpose of dev1galaxy is TECHNICAL assistance.

Does that include the Off-Topic forum? Because that's where we are right now.

#2 Re: Off-topic » Is systemd still bad in 2023? » 2023-10-24 03:18:41

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

Fair enough; though that storyline that "systemd fixed something unsustainable for developers" is and was just plain marketing speech, and it's far off any reality.

So what's the real reason why Fedora, RHEL, and Ubuntu moved from Upstart to systemd?

#3 Re: Installation » Multiboot help » 2023-10-24 03:12:44

rolfie wrote:

an uefi installation requires an esp.

ESP? Extrasensory perception?

rolfie wrote:

Size somewhere from 128M to 512M if you are generous, FAT32 as file system is mandatory

Well, that explains why there was a 512 mb FAT32 partition on the drive after I installed Mint...

#4 Re: Installation » Multiboot help » 2023-10-23 17:36:13

So it's not an option during installation? I have to let Devuan lock me out of Win7 and then hope I can fix it later?

#5 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2023-10-23 16:48:34

Fun fact: there are at least 5 forms of amorphous ice (HGW, LDA, MDA, HDA, VHDA) and 19 phases of crystalline ice. Water probably has the most batshit insane phase diagram of any known substance.

(just in case anyone took a close look at the Start menu and wants a clue about what a "superionic ice giant" is)

#6 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2023-10-23 16:33:13

You didn't say it had to be a Linux desktop...


#7 Re: Off-topic » A warning from the godfather of AI » 2023-10-23 16:14:37

golinux wrote:

Thankfully I am old

This explains your preference for traditional graphic design... and for Firefox having a title bar.

zapper wrote:

Yeah, there really isn't an easy answer.

The current implementation of capitalism has a lot of individual problems with easy, individual answers. Requiring all software to be open-source would be a good one. Bringing copyright laws back within sane limits, or abolishing copyright altogether, would be another.

Neither of these strategies would hurt Google, though. Google is a very weird form of "principled evil". Chrome and Chromium are open-source. I think their search engine is too. Literally anyone can build a search engine that delivers the exact same results as Google, but without the political bias or censorship (or with a different political bias). Google earned its position through pure consumer preferences. So I guess the real problem with Google is that consumers have shitty preferences? How do we fix that?

#9 Re: Off-topic » make desktop looks like windows 11 » 2023-10-23 15:57:29

Why in God's name would you want an OS to look like Windows Metro? The goal should be the opposite: to take Flat-Design garbage and make it look more like Windows Classic/Luna/Aero.

#10 Re: Off-topic » Is systemd still bad in 2023? » 2023-10-23 15:53:24

My understanding of the situation is this:

(1) For the end-user, it doesn't make much of a difference. When you choose to use a Linux distro specifically because it doesn't use systemd, you're taking sides in an ideological battle more than you're making a decision on practical grounds.

(2) At the time when systemd was created, Sysvinit and Upstart were the only init systems around. They had certain unsustainable problems for developers that systemd fixed, and that's why all of the major Linux distros switched to it between 2011 and 2014.

(2) Sysvinit, Upstart, and systemd are no longer the only init systems to choose from, so the case for using systemd is much weaker than it was in 2011-2014.

(4) The real issue is not whether systemd is "good" or "bad". The real issue is whether monopolization of the linux ecosystem by any one init system is good or bad. Spoiler alert: it's very, very bad. Systemd occupies that slot now, but in an alternate timeline where systemd never existed, we'd probably all be whining and bitching about Upstart instead.

#11 Re: Off-topic » Google in trouble again » 2023-10-23 15:20:43

zapper wrote:

adobe flash was proprietary anyhow and the web wasn't flooded enough to where it couldn't be dealt with if I had to guess...

I miss Flash. So many great videos. So many great games. Browsers and Adobe should re-enable it for those of us who are willing to take the risks.

#12 Re: Off-topic » Google in trouble again » 2023-10-23 15:03:18

aluma wrote:

So far, mankind has not come up with anything more effective than a free market.
If you don't like Google, Facebook, etc., create an alternative.

Google is only as powerful as we allow it to be. I already don't use it for anything, so problem solved.

Facebook is a different story. FB benefits from a phenomenon that I call interopoly, a portmanteau of "interoperability" and "monopoly". It's a difficult concept to define but easy to describe; basically, it's any platform, language, standard, format, etc. where the advantages of using the same thing as everyone else outweigh the advantages of using whatever is actually best. We see examples in the VHS vs. betamax format war, the inability of DVORAK keyboards to displace QWERTY, and of course, Microsoft's domination of the operating system market. In Facebook's case, lots of better social networks exist, including Mewe and Diaspora... but I rarely use them because there's nobody to talk to! If I want to talk to anyone, I have to be where the people are, and that's Facebook.

It's one of those weird edge cases where free markets don't work quite as well as they usually do. When a particular interopoly isn't privately owned, then this isn't too bad. VHS, for example, was an "open format". But when an interopoly is owned by one company, and they use that power to extract unearned money from the economy while constantly lowering the quality of their product or service, as Facebook does, then it's time for the government to step in and start beating someone with a stick. In the specific case of Microsoft, their monopoly on Windows-compatible OSes is propped up by patent and copyright laws, so that problem can be solved by less government involvement in the economy.

golinux wrote:

Necro-posting is a bit silly. Especially since HoaS has long since left the building . . .

/me yawns . . .

It was on the first page of the subforum. I didn't look at the dates. *shrug*

#13 Re: Off-topic » Google in trouble again » 2023-10-23 14:33:12

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

@OP: I find your links to far-right propaganda websites disturbing.

Fox Business isn't far-right. It's a room in the Fox News building where they put all the libertarians (Kat Timpf, John Stossel, Kennedy etc.) so they don't bother the actual far-righters with silly things like facts and logic.

#14 Re: Devuan » Happiness is finding people with the same mental illness as you... » 2023-10-23 14:21:10

golinux wrote:

I have been responsible for all the theming since the fork

In that case, could I ask you for a favor?

There are software packages that are theoretically supposed to replicate the look and feel of the Windows Classic and Luna themes on Linux systems. I could only ever get them to partially work. If you could get them fully working and include them in future versions of Devuan, that would be awesome smile

#15 Re: Installation » Multiboot help » 2023-10-23 14:08:30

fsmithred wrote:

Edit /etc/default/grub to enable (un-disable) os-prober.

Uh, how?

#16 Devuan » Happiness is finding people with the same mental illness as you... » 2023-10-22 22:28:57

Replies: 4

I've been distro-hopping for at least a decade, and experimenting in some way or another with Linux for ~2 decades. My initial reasons for wanting to migrate from Windows to Linux were that Vista and Win7 sucked, and I knew I couldn't use XP forever. Eventually, I learned about Classic Shell/Open Shell, and I learned how to take ownership of the "Program Files" directory, and I learned how to beat Win7 into something that was actually pretty tolerable... but by then, Win8 had come out, and Flat Design was here to stay, and I had a whole different reason for wanting to switch to Linux. The problem with switching to linux was that every Linux distro I found was also hopping on the Flat Design bandwagon.

A few months ago, I learned about Q4OS Trinity and XPQ4. I thought I had found the answer to my prayers. I didn't take long to learn how absolutely godawful the Konqueror file manager was.

So, now, I'm once again looking for a Linux distro with tolerable functionality and tolerable aesthetics. I remember looking at Devuan several years ago and rejecting it, partially because of the user-unfriendliness of its installation and partly because of its oppressively red color scheme. But Devuan 5.0 is different. Devuan 5.0 is blue. Poking around a bit more, I notice some other things. Icons have color gradients instead of solid colors. They have dark, 1-pixel-thick borders to improve the contrast between them and the background. The minimize, maximize, and close buttons in the upper right corner of every window are actual buttons, not symbols branded directly onto the title bar. Yes, all of this could be accomplished in other distros by messing with the settings, but here's the kicker: the Firefox that comes with Devuan has its title bar turned on by default. Ideally, both the Title and Menu Bars would be enabled by default, but I'll take what I can get.

The combination of these things is more than just aesthetic. It tells me that the Devuan developers have a different mindset. It tells me that they are among the few sane people left in the IT world. It tells me that I can trust them to make decisions in the future that won't make me go distro-hopping again.

I have found my people.

#17 Installation » Multiboot help » 2023-10-22 21:57:59

Replies: 8

I'd rank Devuan as a "medium" on the scale of user-friendliness, in the sense that I can install it in a virtual machine without issue, but if I try to install it on bare metal alongside a WinXP or Win7 partition, there's about a 50% chance that I'll end up with a system that can only boot into Devuan, and a 50% chance that I'll end up with one that can't boot into any OS at all, because I didn't understand what most of the options were during setup.

The good news is that I was able to get my laptop's Win7 partition back by installing MX-23 into the space that Devuan used to inhabit. Thank God for YUMI multiboot USB sticks.

Anyway, while fiddling around with hard drive partitions, I noticed a 100MB "system reserved" partition, which means that I forgot to set the partition table from GPT to MBR when I wiped the hard drive and installed Win7.

I'd still like a Win7/Devuan dual-boot system, and I'd prefer to do it without wiping the whole hard drive again just to set it from GPT to MBR. Any help would be appreciated.

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