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#1 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx » 2023-08-15 18:27:38

very interesting LinuxMan, I forgot about that, amongst other things.
This is a crux of Linux, all these phenominal engineers and doctors who create it, it works.
keep it simple stupid

#2 Re: Devuan » Is Devuan Daedalus Changing to "Stable"? » 2023-08-15 18:26:26

I hope golinux puts as much energy as possible into the forum these days, as golinux is quite attentive, which is warming.

#4 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » NUC Ethernet not found » 2023-08-15 18:06:30

f9 & f10 the bios for a start,
if the hardware is bleeding edge, amongst other ideas, the task is to identify i.e., what firmware you need.
you could spin the latest MX Linux which is just out and fullfat firmware.
more /var/log/dmesg or syslog or whatever

#5 Re: Installation » Devuan 5.0 netinstall failed [loading boot loader] » 2023-08-15 18:00:46

Personally, I wouldn't even think about installing an OS on a storage device that is not blank.
Use fdisk & delete.
cat /sys/block/hdX|sdX/size
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/whatever bs=whatcatsaid
dd if=/dev/zero /of=/dev/whatever bs=whatcatsaid
When you install perhaps you will be offered gpt

#6 Re: Installation » Devuan 5.0 netinstall failed [loading boot loader] » 2023-08-15 17:55:50

grub is the greatest colossal joke, an unprecedented security catastrophe, and fundamentally a supremely pure definition of a piece of shit.
continue without bootloader, boot with refindflashdrive dot zip, or grub4dos, and install refind if you fancy.
If you're not EFI, use Limine, and check wizard Barry Kauler at easyos for intel.

#7 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx » 2023-08-15 17:46:19

Ola!
I will say some ideas, try to help.
I think refractasnapshot never fails.
I hope you are working in console, but maybe that is not necessary.
I think that it is absolutely necessary to restrict the cpu power, to protect your hard drive/ssd from being written to, too fast.
apt-get --no-install-recommends cpufrequtils
cpufreq-set -u 800000
Now run refractasnapshot from root.
This will create a snapshot in /home/username
my username is user
Maybe you are having problems not in root.
A simple way to go into root, and not worry, is turn off the power to your wifi router.
Persevere.
Persevere with this forum.
Refracta is the best, no competition.
You best have zstd installed.

#8 Re: Devuan » Is Devuan Daedalus Changing to "Stable"? » 2023-08-15 12:58:37

Tue 15 Aug 2023, just coming up to 2 PM UTC.
The homepage has gone Daedalus 5.0 current stable release.
I like the subtle changes in colours very much indeed.
Will be splendid to see Devuan top of the page on Distrowatch.
'Sunshine on a rainy day,' here in Ungreat Britain.
What's new it says,
Rootless startx uses libseat1
is that just for a Display Manager,
in the past I found a quite small 'script,' which did auto login and startx without a Display Manager.

#9 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] HDMI - no sound output; microphone - no sound input » 2023-08-10 18:34:16

Hello vrgovinda,
patience be with us!
the archlinux sound documents are very excellent, the main two documents.

I am actually trying to 'configure' my new mini-pc (with it's spurious codec,) at the moment, so my input here is actually in practice say.
I don't think I am going to get sound line-out AND HDMI, I think I may have to settle for one or the other, we will see.

The last twenty-five years alsamixer has been good to me, pulseaudio is new to me.
I have apt-get --no-install-recommends install pavucontrol pulseaudio which pulls in all the required packages.
In addition I have made a folder _pa and in that folder I have downloaded the two packages pavucontrol and pulseaudio.
When I want to certainly work on alsa I, dpkg -P pavucontrol pulseaudio.
And when I want to work on pulseaudio I, dpkg -i -R _pa.
So I can keep trying, and don't have to be online.
When I do use pulseaudio I'm always in user not root, and I always pulseaudio --start | --kill
I always run alsamixer as it changes when I install/uninstall pulseaudio.
The sound file I work with is FILE.WAV, aplay in alsa plays WAV file.
vrgovinda, please keep trying with all those too many settings in alsamixer.
All this quasi pain is worth it to advance learning howto configure sound. I think!
Andrew.

#10 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] HDMI - no sound output; microphone - no sound input » 2023-08-09 20:36:51

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Advanc … leshooting

Intel Cannon Lake PCH cAVS
On Intel Cannon Lake (eg. HP ZBook 15 G6), the integrated sound chipset requires ALSA firmware, and the following kernel module parameters are required:

options snd-hda-intel dmic_detect=0
options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-amic enable=yes

That should enable both sound and microphone.

#11 Installation » Newer hardware, don't install Chimaera, install Daedalus. » 2023-08-09 20:28:22

andyp67
Replies: 2

Anybody that has been working hard for time using Linux, knows that newer hardware needs newer software.
A Chinese Doctor, and probably the best nanotechnology doctor on the planet, once said to me hardware software same thing.
The Chinese software is out of sight and the American aeroplane is redundant obsolete, expensive, taxes.
My new mini-pc has got a 'spurious' sound codec, thanks Intel, won't work in Chimaera, and the newer firmware in Debian testing don't work either.
So install Daedalus for a great myriad of reasons.
Or make a wicker chair and then unweave the thing.

#12 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] HDMI - no sound output; microphone - no sound input » 2023-08-09 20:03:04

Useful,

https://thesofproject.github.io/latest/ … ction.html

Every time I create a change I run alsamixer --view all and it will be different

On my BMAX B1 Plus mini-pc which has a pig codec es8336, I am trying to get sound line-out and HDMI.

My next step is to install pavucontrol & pulseaudio, and see what I am offered,
then /etc/modprobe.d/snd.conf options snd-intel-dspcfg dsp_driver=3
and see what I am offered.
dsp_driver=1 & dsp_driver=2 terminally breaks sound.

It's amazing how computers are like cars in many ways, you look at them under a 40X microscope and they're full of crap & flux and that, like under the bonnet (hood,) another, 'chipset' change, reminds me of changing a wheel bearing and in the end I did it in the car parts car park because there was like five variants.
And here I am, twenty-five years later, clean install Windows 98SE and what's the first thing to do, see if the piece of shit sound is working.
And we've had HDMI for like twenty years plug and play and we pay hard earned money for this shit.
I guess without SOF we'd certainly be up shit creek without a paddle.
IMO options snd-hda-intel model=whatever is questionable pissing in the wind.

#13 Re: Installation » Devuan 5 daedalus repos don't work. » 2023-08-06 17:57:31

This last couple of years my observation is that the Chiefs at Devuan have to modify|update deb.devuan.org all the time, and half the time it does not work, I became quite cheesed off about this, so I picked a mirror practical to my locale and it very very rarely fails.
Sorry.
# deb http://devuan.sedf.de/merged daedalus-security main
# deb http://devuan.sedf.de/merged daedalus-updates main
# deb http://devuan.sedf.de/merged daedalus main

#14 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Devuan Chimaera: switch back to good ole X11? » 2023-08-06 17:43:18

What I do, maybe useful.
Twenty-five years of using computers, I do not trust Government Corporation thieving my privacy.
I don't use Windows online.
I only do X online in a live distro.
Knoppix, SysRescCd, Damn Small Linux, TinyCoreLinux, Sidux|Aptosid, Puppy, EasyOS, etc.
Of course now I do a bespoke not kitchen sink fsmithred snapshot, marvellous!
Display Managers have their uses but generally are problematic.
apt-get --no-install-recommends prevents headaches.
How I startx without fail.
I do a very frowned upon 'hairy shirt' technique in my always pristine boot=live toram.
apt-get install xserver-xorg-legacy
/etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
allowed_users=anybody
needs_root_rights=yes

xinit is happy and perhaps a Display Manager also.
Bring on the flames!
Also xserver-xorg-input-evdev (terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp) xserver-xorg-input-libinput (Synaptics is shady.)

#15 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] HDMI - no sound output; microphone - no sound input » 2023-08-06 16:36:34

Advanced Linux Sound Architecture was|is a far-sighted and responsible piece of work.

#16 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] HDMI - no sound output; microphone - no sound input » 2023-08-06 16:13:11

There's too many bloody sound modules running, thanks to the western lands binary blob wankers, stifling evolution, (screwing with nature!) the coming decades, especially China and India, will stanley knife that holding back open-source.
The kernel is a tiny kernel, wrapped up in a whopping pile of shit, pathetic.

#17 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] HDMI - no sound output; microphone - no sound input » 2023-08-06 15:45:51

Hello vrgovinda, I am surmising your name is an epithet of Vishnu ?

Installed, alsa-topology-conf alsa-ucm-conf alsa-utils, maybe I only need alsa-utils.
Run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset

I have a ASRock mini-itx (Intel J3355 (2016.)) I use HDMI monitor with built-in speakers.
A Asus E203N laptop (Intel N3350 (2016.))
A BMAX B1 Plus mini-pc (Intel N3350 (2016.)) I use HDMI monitor with built-in speakers.

The laptop speakers and headphone socket works out of the box in Chimaera and Daedalus.

The mini-pc which 'appears' to be the 'same' hardware as the laptop, is not, /var/log/dmesg shows me that I need two ES8336 firmwares from firmware-sof-signed for sound to work. I am now on Daedalus, does it work on Chimaera, I don't know. It works on Daedalus. Note: a newer firmware from Debian testing fails! clearly seen in dmesg.

The mini-itx works out of the box, line-out, and HDMI, Daedalus.

In alsamixer, if S/PDIF is muted, HDMI - no sound.
Also, maybe, attention to PCM.

I have a music file (FILE.WAV,) which I can play in console with aplay from alsa-utils, -d 3, plays for three seconds.

mini-itx/mini-pc,
line out/headphone|speaker
aplay -D plughw:0,0 -d 3 FILE.WAV

HDMI,
aplay -D plughw:0,3 -d 3 FILE.WAV

So, for HDMI, I have /etc/asound.conf
defaults.pcm.card 0
defaults.pcm.device 3
defaults.ctl.card 0

What I have learned,
alsamixer --view all,
attempt to hear some sound, levels, mutes, etc.

If I install pavucontrol pulseaudio (which I can always uninstall,) I can configure my mini-itx line-out AND HDMI sumultaneously (I havn't figured out how to do this in console alsa yet,) and as long as I do not reset alsa, that config remains.

Useful,
https://docs.slackware.com/howtos:hardw … -hda-intel
https://docs.slackware.com/howtos:hardw … _slackware
https://bkhome.org/news/201912/sound-fi … -lake.html

#18 Re: Installation » Howto install dual-boot Windows Linux best method » 2023-08-06 10:33:13

I do not understand how to display an image on this forum.
Images are 2048x1536.

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If the Windows GUI defrag is broken/missing, defrag in Windows Command Prompt.
In theory, Windows defrag tools will not hurt an SSD.
The above images show Devuan Daedalus RC8 netinstall on a Asus E203N laptop, common Intel N3350, SSD 64GB mmcblk0 surface mount.

#19 Devuan » We need to big up Devuan Live » 2023-07-17 15:17:50

andyp67
Replies: 4

We need to big up Devuan Live works like a charm out of the box.
We need to have pavucontrol to git those crappy speakers on my HDMI monitor to work, HDMI has been in production for 20 years. I don't need a Bang & Olufsen sound system, I'm on the tube listening to a doctor discussing leukemia.
I'm not run me down fsmithred (amongst others,) who obviously work as hard as Muhammad Ali.
What else do we need, I don't mean some email client palaver.
Discuss.

#20 Re: Installation » Install with Runit as the init » 2023-07-17 13:56:56

Born 1967 and missed computer studies by one year, had to learn digital photography, 1998 got a 233MHz Toshiba laptop, partitioned with SystemRescueCd and put Red Hat 6 on it, Fedora came, I went to Debian. Kitchen sink Knoppix was in my toolkit, also Robert Shingledecker is a hero, and Puppy Linux to easyos. cdc-acm USB GPRS was my first mountain to learn, then bluetooth GPRS.
Sometimes on the news you can see in a warzone some state sponsored whackos blowing the front off a hotel, git them journalists.
Alas I got bored of loonies trying to chop my head off.
A decade ago was DSLR and netbook and I could GPRS bluetooth a 3G phone on the fly in Sidux/Aptosid.
When that kit got robbed I got an armoured compact (camera,) and my first Android, Huawei, QWERTY.
jackpal terminal console, Xavier Gouchet Ted text processor, ffmpeg4android, Pixlr (2.6) Stay Alive! (display,) CryptIt blowfish cipher.
Moving too fast or dug in too deep, more. Bosnia was film and chemicals and facsimile and dish. Big bucks.
Anyway Klaus Kalder at easyos stimulation moved on to embedded, fair enough.
Obviously MX Linux is the contemporaneous kitchen sink, but I think antiX is the champ, again, one director, one man.
The Greek State understands that the future is open-source, it's not my bias because I am British and Greek.
News page on antixlinux dot com Bookworm beta June 11, 2023, runit & sysvinit.

#21 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » PulseAudio always resets to mute » 2023-07-17 07:44:41

zapper, it's grand that you've added some more intel about this minefield,
I do wax lyrical some you know, we all try and that's not dumb.
Now I am introduced to sndio, there's a wikipedia page and packages.debian Description search found 11 matching packages.
I suppose we all gather intel from many sources of course.
All the docs are greatly better these days in it, certainly Arch Linux.
Distro's that I spin to troubleshoot, well Knoppix, thesedays easyos certainly, MX Linux is greatly popular.
Pipewire appears to be the way forward, I buy that, head on a sticks two penneth.
So actually pulseaudio is my best friend because it appears to work some magic under the hood and hey presto asound.conf then works and can be configured as total as you like.
Thanks zapper.

#22 Re: Installation » Install with Runit as the init » 2023-07-16 21:09:25

apt-get --no-install-recommends install
is what I've learned recently

#23 Re: Installation » Install with Runit as the init » 2023-07-16 21:06:26

Thats for Chimaera,
for Daedalus it's,
elogind libelogind-compat libelogind0 libpam-elogind libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0 policykit-1 policykit-1-gnome pkexec polkitd polkitd-pkla
thats with Chromium, maybe falkon is different.
What it is is the same which is gnome surveillance

#24 Re: Installation » Install with Runit as the init » 2023-07-16 20:58:01

I also dpkg --force-all -P elogind libelogind0 libpam-elogind libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0 policykit-1 policykit-1-gnome
and then I apt-get download or dpkg -i libsystemd0
and it ain't broke at all whatsoever.

#25 Re: Installation » Install with Runit as the init » 2023-07-16 20:52:59

I'm no professor and certainly no doctor just an amateur.
I don't really know what rsync backup means.
I am familiar with some startx problems, I dusted that by installing xserver-xorg-legacy, and /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config contains two lines, allowed_users=anybody needs_root_rights=yes
give it a shot, take you 2 minutes

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