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Is it usable only with free software?
rtl8188fu. I wish but it needs firmware to function. Its supported by Linux 6.2 if CONFIG_RTL8XXXU_UNTESTED=y. Rather than using dkms I have built a 6.2+ kernel with support for it and placed the firmware in /lib/firmware/rtlwifi.
If it wasn't for this Wifi dongle that only recently got supported in the Linux kernel (its one of those nasty Realtek ones) I would still be using FreeBSD now. (Not throwing any shade on Devuan )
Thanks for this. This looked so much better.
In Ceres (Unstable) which is on Plasma 5.27.2 now, Discover will no longer load categories with the following output:
fetch ratings! false
adding empty sources model QStandardItemModel(0x564b37dfbfc0)
no component found for "org.devuan.devuan"
Of course, this time I have only the apt backend. If I had the flatpak backend, apps from that should load.
Yeah, Klipper (the KDE clipboard) can be pretty annoying. I'm not a fan of Plasma but TDE, the equivalent to KDE that MATE is to GNOME, still uses Qt3 and so it looks a bit jarring compared to the applications you use. I don't use TDE these days. MATE is rather good but I fluctuate between it and Xfce, both of which are awaiting more Wayland support. Maybe one day.
I just install it via Pip to keep up with the latest version. Pip should be installed if you have Python.
Do I see it right that you can only use KDE Plasma in Devuan if you want Wayland for security reasons?
I believe you can use GNOME on Devuan (which uses Wayland by default) but I don't think you want that. LOL.
If you want to use KDE with Wayland, I would recommend waiting for Daedulus or using Ceres because 5.26+ has far better support than 5.20. Its still buggy, but far less than the version in Chimaera.
MATE is not usable as a Wayland session. Initial support for Wayland was added in 1.26.0 (the version in Chimaera is 1.24) but only for a handful of MATE applications. See here: https://mate-desktop.org/blog/2021-08-0 … -released/:
We added Wayland support for Atril, System Monitor, Pluma, Terminal and other components of the Desktop.
The original consolekit was abandoned upstream several years ago. The new consolekit2 version is actively maintained though.
Yes, ConsoleKit2 is what I meant. Would be nice to see it make a comeback. :-)
Did you try just simply 'sudo synaptic'? That's what I have to do from the terminal in dwm on antiX to get synaptic running. If I recall correctly, pkexec commands just spit out errors in that environment.
Yes, this works. But this bypasses the point of polkit.
This suggests that consolekit's DBus API is different and requires that software be built to support that instead of elogind.
Yes, I just figured this out so I restored my timeshift snapshot from before.
Any particular reason why you've switched to consolekit?
Well, elogind is extracted from systemd. I don't see why consolekit needed to be replaced, as distros I've tried that still use it (such as PCLinuxOS) work just fine, and since it was still in Devuans repositories (its not in Debians) I wanted to see if it would work. It doesn't, unless you rebuild any components that use the elogind flag.
I'm having problems with authentication on Devuan Chimaera with Xfce. I recently replaced elogind with consolekit2 (provided by the consolekit package). Everything seems to work fine, although when logging out not all services that were started will quit. There is also a larger issue related to the authentication.
When trying to run programs like synaptic-pkexec, I get the following error:
polkit-agent-helper-1: error response to PolicyKit daemon: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: No session for cookie
==== AUTHENTICATION FAILED ===
Error executing command as another user: Not authorized
This incident has been reported.
This is what /var/log/auth.log says:
Feb 11 11:46:01 B550M polkitd(authority=local): Registered Authentication Agent for unix-process:7893:242677 (system bus name :1.203 [pkexec /usr/sbin/synaptic], object path /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_US.UTF-8)
Feb 11 11:46:03 B550M polkitd(authority=local): Operator of unix-process:7893:242677 FAILED to authenticate to gain authorization for action com.ubuntu.pkexec.synaptic for unix-process:7893:242677 [/bin/sh /usr/bin/synaptic-pkexec] (owned by unix-user:hunter)
Feb 11 11:46:03 B550M pkexec[7894]: hunter: Error executing command as another user: Not authorized [user=root] [TTY=/dev/pts/0] [CWD=/home/hunter] [COMMAND=/usr/sbin/synaptic]
Feb 11 11:46:03 B550M polkitd(authority=local): Unregistered Authentication Agent for unix-process:7893:242677 (system bus name :1.203, object path /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_US.UTF-8)
I've tried with both mate-polkit and gnome-polkit with the same result.
hunter0one wrote:... I just stuck with KDE.
I always had trouble with KDE Plasma and Wayland. I've cursed it and wished it to hell. But your post triggered me yesterday to try it again (Daedalus).
I should rephrase my use of KDE. I like KDE applications, I do not like KDE Plasma. I can't stand the flat Breeze theme and similar to GNOME's Adwaita it sticks to everything. Trying to make Plasma look a bit more like pre-Plasma is hopeless. I hope LiquidShell gets developed more and makes its way into Devuan one day (who knows, I could package it). I typically use Trinity desktop, but the really old Qt version and inability to keep up like MATE has driven me away.
The newer Plasma versions after Chimaera have improved Wayland support by a lot. I'm ready to see what Daedulus will bring, if I'm still running Plasma by then..
Everybody loves GNOME, right?
LOL, don't we all?
Really, I've been having a desktop identity crisis the past 2 weeks. I just stuck with KDE.
I would use Wayland but in the latest stable its buggy as hell on KDE, especially with Flatpaks.
Hey, that worked. Thanks!
Is 'pipewire' the only killall needed to end all pipewire processes when I exit icewm?
Hi all,
I migrated a Debian machine over to Devuan. I have the backport of pipewire for better support for wireplumber. It worked flawlessly on Debian but it was started there with systemctl --user. When I migrated to Devuan, I now get "Dummy Output" in Pavucontrol even though pactl shows:
Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.63)
Server Version: 15.0.0
I am using icewm, so I added pipewire and pipewire-pulse to the startup file, but I still have no sound. Any ideas?
I agree with Camtaf, if I'm going to use the FreeBSD kernel I would rather use FreeBSD (and I do). The FreeBSD kernel is made for the operating system.
is it possible to get with withs "pipewire" better soundstage?
on the same newer laptops, with windows (7 or10) the sound is MUCH better!
AFAIK, its not possible in Chimaera because pipewire replacing pulseaudio uses some systemd magic, at least in the wiki page for it.
I for one notice no difference at all from either, they serve a similar purpose. If apulse worked with flatpaks I would gladly get rid of pulseaudio/pipewire.
Is Pulseaudio showing "Dummy Output"? I'm having the same issue on a Core 2 Duo machine I have set up with Devuan.
EDIT: Re-read it, forget about the above
Can confirm the same issue now. I used to not like Discover or Plasma in general but they've grown on me, Discover reminds me of "Pamac" on Manjaro years ago.
Thierrybo, that is a great explanation. I guess its better to wait, at least we can just browse through the categories manually for now.
@User479: Just read that part in the Debian wiki and installed "usrmerge". :-)
I think that its great for Devuan to make it optional, after all we're all here because Debian likes to slowly force things.
I don't think UsrMerge hurts anything, it should make porting applications easier for everybody. For once the arguments that Lennart (I assume thats who wrote that freedesktop article) gave actually make sense here. When the option comes I will probably switch over.
I use flatpaks so I at least need one or the other and I get unstoppable popping with both Pipewire and Pulseaudio.
This sounds like a good news : PipeWire 0.3.31 https://www.reddit.com/r/MXLinux/commen … chpad_ppa/
Pipewire is just as much of a cancer as pulseaudio, if not worse. It did not "magically solve" my popping issues, even after extensive configuration with media-session and wireplumber both.
I find ALSA to work out of the box on Devuan so long as you set the default card to the right one. And don't install from tasksel, I found out the hard way that I had that crap and it already messed everything up.