The officially official Devuan Forum!

You are not logged in.

#1 Re: Off-topic » The rise of Artix and decline of Arch on Distrowatch » 2021-09-17 23:59:56

I looked up Hyperbola Linux and their website says:
"Due to the Linux kernel rapidly proceeding down an unstable path, we are planning on implementing a completely new OS derived from several BSD implementations."

... and:
"Future versions of Hyperbola will be using HyperbolaBSD which will have the new kernel, userspace and not be ABI compatible with previous versions."

What the!

They give reasons.  That's somewhat concerning as a Linux user!  But is the Linux kernel really heading significantly down that way, or is the Hyperbola site being slightly alarmist??

#2 Off-topic » The rise of Artix and decline of Arch on Distrowatch » 2021-09-15 00:19:16

dvnUsr
Replies: 15

I've noticed that Distrowatch's page hit rankings for Artix have been rising over the past weeks, and Arch's dropping.  It looks like it will go even further that way in the weeks to come.

I wonder if that is an informal vote against systemd, or something else?  Or do Distrowatch page hits not really mean much (too easily influenced by bots)?

Anyone got any insights?

[Edit: "rise" not "risk"!]

#3 Installation » Chimaera netinstall findings » 2021-09-14 19:38:22

dvnUsr
Replies: 1

Installed devuan_chimaera_4.0.beta-20210913_amd64_netinstall.iso just now.  (Bare metal UEFI installation.)

Got the message: "... missing firmware files ... regulatory.db".

Ignored this and proceeded with installation anyway.  Installation was successful; no further issues.

Installer bug?

(First time using Chimaera; looks good; so far everything works; seems to be faster than Beowulf!)

#4 Re: Off-topic » s6's Laurent Bercot plans "last piece of full alternative to systemd" » 2021-08-26 02:08:35

I'm hoping @andyprough can give use his thoughts on s6 v runit speed.

My 2 cents:  Devuan + runit is very fast to boot up on an Xfce desktop installation.  Artix + s6 was faster on the same PC.  I would guess (relying on my memory of when I had Artix installed, 1.5 years ago) that Artix + s6 felt like an order of magnitude faster, but both are so quick that we're only really talking about a difference of  a few seconds.  Might be a different story, in favour of s6, for a server installation?

#5 Re: Off-topic » s6's Laurent Bercot plans "last piece of full alternative to systemd" » 2021-08-10 17:23:34

Laurent Bercot now has a sponsor ...

Update: the project has found a sponsor! Expect more news in this space in the months to come.
...
My estimate is that it needs about one year of work...

(https://skarnet.com/projects/service-manager.html)

#6 Re: Devuan » Devuan + s6? » 2021-02-15 22:11:55

Also, I've just asked Distrowatch to update their "Init Software" details for Devuan.  Please check ... in case I haven't got that quite right.

#7 Re: Devuan » Devuan + s6? » 2021-02-15 22:08:09

Cooool!!:  runit is now in the Beowulf 3.1 installer (though I have been happily using it in 3.0, for the past 2-3 months) and it works well.  Thank you Devuan developers!

Is s6 now an "almost certainty" for Chimera?

#8 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan Beowulf 3.1.0 point release » 2021-02-15 18:52:59

Yes, thank you very much to all you hard workers at Devuan.  An amazing, functional and free operating system!

I had to boot my USB installer in legacy (BIOS) mode rather than UEFI, on my particular PC. If I installed through UEFI, the post-installation boot would end up at the GRUB2 command line.

I installed using ethernet, with the runit init software, and configured wifi after the first reboot.  To avoid subsequent slow booting ("ifup: waiting for lock on /run/network/interfaces/ifstate.eth0"), I had to comment out the following lines in /etc/network/interfaces:
    # The primary network interface
    #allow-hotplug eth0
    #iface eth0 inet dhcp
    # This is an autoconfigured IPv6 interface
    #iface eth0 inet6 auto

#9 Re: Forum Feedback » Cannot search for "s6" » 2020-08-18 18:08:23

Yes, thank you Ron; your creative answer does of course work.

#10 Forum Feedback » Cannot search for "s6" » 2020-08-16 19:44:14

dvnUsr
Replies: 3

Searching the Forum for keyword "s6" (with or without quotes, or wildcards) returns the following:

"You have to enter at least one keyword and/or an author to search for."

Is there a trick I can use to get it to work?

#11 Re: Devuan » Devuan + s6? » 2020-08-11 23:19:22

Thank you for the reply.

I see s6 as a potential systemd killer, in terms of s6 being able to do the important stuff that systemd does, but in a well-designed and UNIX-friendly manner.

If s6 can be implemented in a few more distros, then perhaps other distros will have to take notice, and hopefully jump on board?  (Why use systemd when there is a better alternative?)

https://skarnet.org/software/s6/  (s6 developer's site.)
https://github.com/CasperVector/up2020/releases  ("Unix Philosophy 2020" book by Casper Vector.)

Any thoughts amongst the main Devuan developers on how good (or not so good) the s6 suite is?

#12 Devuan » Devuan + s6? » 2020-08-10 02:46:47

dvnUsr
Replies: 8

Hi, Is anyone aware of when the s6 init and supervision suite might appear as an option in the Devuan installer?  Currently using/learning Artix + s6, but prefer a more fixed release type of distro.  My (very) limited experience with s6 has been all positive.  Cheers.

Board footer

Forum Software