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#2 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » how on Devuan analyze boot time? » 2022-07-04 23:20:38

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Also perhaps check with a live ISO that boots with systemd to see how udev handles the devices.

Is there actually much delay when starting the desktop? It could be that the eudev stuff is done in the background after a working desktop is reached. I've seen that before with systemd-analyze output.

Ok, i will look exactly. I have at dual boot Arch and Fedora, all systems booting about same time.

#3 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » sometimes network is down after boot » 2022-07-04 23:10:00

Thanks for reply and exploring. I am will try your suggestion and report here.

ps same randomly happend thing was also on Debian for me

#4 Desktop and Multimedia » sometimes network is down after boot » 2022-06-29 11:47:44

deepforest
Replies: 2

sometimes network is down after boot

/etc/network/interfaces                                                                                                                                             
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
freeartist@devuan:~$ sudo su
[sudo] password for freeartist: 
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# ip a
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state DOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:1d:7d:c7:be:43 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# ifdown eth0
Killed old client process
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.3
Copyright 2004-2022 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/

Listening on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   Socket/fallback
DHCPRELEASE of 192.168.0.20 on eth0 to 192.168.0.1 port 67
send_packet: Network is unreachable
send_packet: please consult README file regarding broadcast address.
dhclient.c:3124: Failed to send 300 byte long packet over fallback interface.
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# ifup eth0
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.3
Copyright 2004-2022 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/

Listening on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13
DHCPOFFER of 192.168.0.20 from 192.168.0.1
DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.20 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPACK of 192.168.0.20 from 192.168.0.1
bound to 192.168.0.20 -- renewal in 238 seconds.
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# 
root@devuan:/etc/network# sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not re-enable some interfaces ... (warning).
Reconfiguring network interfaces...Killed old client process
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.3
Copyright 2004-2022 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/

Listening on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   Socket/fallback
DHCPRELEASE of 192.168.0.20 on eth0 to 192.168.0.1 port 67
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.3
Copyright 2004-2022 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/

Listening on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
No DHCPOFFERS received.
No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
done.
root@devuan:/etc/network# 

#5 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » how on Devuan analyze boot time? » 2022-06-29 11:14:06

Yes, thx. i see long udevd.

Looks like eudev takes forever. Do you have many devices connected?

usb mouse and usb hub, 2 sata hdd, nothing else

You could try udev instead but that's from the systemd crowd so people might throw rotten fruit at you.

Noo, i am here because sysvinit

#6 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » how on Devuan analyze boot time? » 2022-06-29 11:03:51

Thanks! And how analyze that? I see hdd is bottleneck?

#7 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » how on Devuan analyze boot time? » 2022-06-29 10:58:55

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
sed -i 's|#!/usr/bin/python|&3|' pybootchartgui.py
./pybootchartgui.py

EDIT: monkey patching ftw! big_smile

Wow! Thanks! Its magic! What is trick?

https://i.imgur.com/ynv1HKU.png

ps understood python>python3 in pybootchartgui.py

#8 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » how on Devuan analyze boot time? » 2022-06-29 10:49:46

I see now
/var/log/bootchart.tgz
but

freeartist@devuan:~/Downloads/bootchart$ ./pybootchartgui.py
bash: ./pybootchartgui.py: /usr/bin/python: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
freeartist@devuan:~/Downloads/bootchart$
freeartist@devuan:/var/log$ bootchart /var/log/bootchart.tgz
bash: bootchart: command not found
freeartist@devuan:/var/log$ bootchart2 /var/log/bootchart.tgz
bash: bootchart2: command not found
freeartist@devuan:/var/log$ 

#9 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » how on Devuan analyze boot time? » 2022-06-26 19:36:56

root@devuan:/home/freeartist/Downloads# dpkg -i bootchart2_0.14.4-3+b1_amd64.deb 
Selecting previously unselected package bootchart2.
(Reading database ... 461869 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack bootchart2_0.14.4-3+b1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking bootchart2 (0.14.4-3+b1) ...
Setting up bootchart2 (0.14.4-3+b1) ...
update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults
update-rc.d: warning: stop runlevel arguments (6 0) do not match bootchart-done Default-Stop values (none)
Processing triggers for man-db (2.10.2-1) ...
root@devuan:/home/freeartist/Downloads# 
freeartist@devuan:/var/log$ 
freeartist@devuan:~/Downloads$ bootchart2
bash: bootchart2: command not found
freeartist@devuan:~/Downloads$ 

#10 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » how on Devuan analyze boot time? » 2022-06-26 19:07:02

freeartist@devuan:/usr/bin$ sudo ln -fs python3 python
freeartist@devuan:/usr/bin$ 
freeartist@devuan:~/Downloads/bootchart$ ./pybootchartgui.py
/home/freeartist/Downloads/bootchart/pybootchartgui/parsing.py:101: SyntaxWarning: "is" with a literal. Did you mean "=="?
  if pid is 0:
/home/freeartist/Downloads/bootchart/pybootchartgui/draw.py:511: SyntaxWarning: "is not" with a literal. Did you mean "!="?
  if (OPTIONS.show_pid or OPTIONS.show_all) and ipid is not 0:
/home/freeartist/Downloads/bootchart/pybootchartgui/draw.py:609: SyntaxWarning: "is not" with a literal. Did you mean "!="?
  if i is not 0:
No path given, trying /var/log/bootchart.tgz
warning: path '/var/log/bootchart.tgz' does not exist, ignoring.
Parse error: empty state: '/var/log/bootchart.tgz' does not contain a valid bootchart
freeartist@devuan:~/Downloads/bootchart$ 

#11 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » how on Devuan analyze boot time? » 2022-06-26 19:01:39

freeartist@devuan:~/Downloads/bootchart$ ./pybootchartgui.py
bash: ./pybootchartgui.py: /usr/bin/python: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
freeartist@devuan:~/Downloads/bootchart$ 

#12 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » how on Devuan analyze boot time? » 2022-06-26 18:29:57

root@devuan:/etc# apt install bootchart
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package bootchart
root@devuan:/etc# 

#14 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » LXQT Problem » 2022-06-26 17:23:59

Yes, same here. Just tested on my Devuan Ceres (unstable) If items on taskbar grouped and minimized i cant select it.
https://streamable.com/nnldqn

#15 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » how on Devuan analyze boot time? » 2022-06-26 16:23:59

xinomilo wrote:

bootlogd or bootchart? n

thx, how to use them?

#16 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] XFCE Nofitication style was broken after installing i3wm » 2022-06-23 01:41:17

Solved

this magic helped

sudo apt remove notification-daemon dunst xfce4-notifyd --purge && sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt install notification-daemon xfce4-notifyd && sudo apt remove notify-osd --purge

#17 Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] XFCE Nofitication style was broken after installing i3wm » 2022-06-23 01:00:16

deepforest
Replies: 1

after installing i3wm, xfce volume bar was replaced by i3 volume bar, how restore default xfce volume bar

screenshots here
https://imgur.com/a/H3OuBUt

this not help

sudo apt reinstall xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
sudo apt reinstall pavucontrol
sudo apt reinstall xfce4-indicator-plugin

also reinstalled xfce4-notifyd, not help
https://imgur.com/a/TXncrzQ

#20 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How reduce starting Xorg time? » 2022-06-14 00:20:40

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
deepforest wrote:

i.e. using linux - problems should be expected wink

No, not really.

I have an AMD card that functions perfectly under Linux thanks to the efforts of the (paid!) AMD developers who have open sourced their graphics stack (apart from the firmware) and contribute actively to Linux development.

In Windows I cannot use the open source amdgpu driver so I have to use AMDGPU-PRO instead and the performance is *terrible*, especially in respect of power consumption and temperature management. The blobby driver is shit.

Agree, Can you you explain why linux community hate nvidia? A am also love AMD too for free and opensource politics. But now many software and games developers is nvidia oriented.
Here example https://developer.blender.org/T96614

#21 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work » 2022-06-11 13:17:48

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Devuan aren't going to patch the kernel to fix a problem introduced by NVIDIA. That would be ridiculous.

Problem already fixed https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nvidia-340xx
Devuan or Devian devs must just add it to repo

ps for me working this solution https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/ … a-patcher/

#22 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How reduce starting Xorg time? » 2022-06-11 13:12:54

thierrybo wrote:

it is stuck 18 seconds on "Initializing extension XINERAMA"

try disable, but no result

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option         "IgnoreABI" "1"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection

#23 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How reduce starting Xorg time? » 2022-06-11 13:11:37

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Yes but if the ABI isn't supported then problems should be expected.

i.e. using linux - problems should be expected wink

#24 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Ceres(5.18) legacy 340 nvidia driver not work » 2022-06-11 11:58:04

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
deepforest wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The proprietary drivers are not part of the official Devuan release either.

Why? Devuan not supported any proprietary drivers!?

Because the source code is not available. The drivers are available from the non-free component of the repositories as a convenience for users but that component is not considered part of the official release.

and what? nvidia have linux driver that patched by community for new kernels. so its devuan or debian issue that it not apply patched diver in his repo.

#25 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How reduce starting Xorg time? » 2022-06-11 11:53:29

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

There is also this:

X.Org log wrote:
[    44.886] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
[    44.887] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[    45.134] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[    45.134] 	compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[    45.134] 	Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    45.134] ================ WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING ================
[    45.134] This server has a video driver ABI version of 25.2 that this
driver does not officially support.  Please check
http://www.nvidia.com/ for driver updates or downgrade to an X
server with a supported driver ABI.
[    45.134] =================================================================

its just warning

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