So i have bought libreboot machine (T500) but i am stuck with systemd arch linux now...

For my needs which is playing some linux games, browsing web this is enough for me... No issues with anything...
Maybe systemd is another OS inside linux thanks to systemctl or journalctl stuff but i am not sysadmin... :-(

golinux i was only being sarcastic, that's it .

i mean just majority of linux users care about candy desktop environment or out of the box experience as i said. author of the topic mentioned being devuan bigger than ubuntu.
i doubt it that lots of people care about things like init system or non bloated distribution.

A poster above is not a gamer and i am the person who doesnt really go on youtube or reddit
but ill have quick read on wildfire, thanks for link

uhhh i can sayi m gamer cuz i played lots of my time but this is the windows thing you buy windows you download game and you play it
i wanna transform myself into being open-source gamer, so for that i basically wanna stop playing windows games via wine or playonlinux, this is the most important step (but i feel somehow addicted to them after years of playing, so its hard), try to play as many games from synaptic package manager as possible and then study how linux functions and manage to operate openbox, that i just downloaded today and so far so great.

I have to say that i used quite distributions maybe like tested them and for some reason i learnt few terminal commands on devuan not on fedora ubuntu or manjaro. Although i have to say that i really like linux mint, maybe it has systemd but honestly linux mint is the only distro i would recommend to anybody that is not really into this systemd stuff...
And devuan helps me with windows addiction so when im on the computer instead of playing windows games, i can learn to write bash scripts or get more into terminal, that's the difference .
Sometimes i wish wine or playonlinux hasn't existed, i think that playing open-source free games from linux synaptic package manager is not that big waste of time, especially if somebody has ever thought about writing own games, i think nowadays free open source is the way to go, however i am worried about steam, but then i believe that software shouldn't be written for profits in mind.

The season is nearly ended ;P
right now im running diablo 3 under nouveau and i have better experience than i had under proprietary nvidia drivers. mainly because my gpu doesnt overheat now like it does with closed-source nvidia.
so yeah im having amazing expierence but im slowly becoming bored of windows games so instead of just playing games im gonna learn linux and get into open-source
i tried quite much different distros and i have to say only devuan taught me basics of terminal
i realised other linux distros dont require knowledge of terminal they're designed to be similar to windows i realised
but devuan is i dont have to use terminal and im fine but in the same time i can use terminal and im fine as well + its fun to learn new stuff and i learn lots of stuff on devuan everyday ;D

uhh

for me nouveau driver is better than the proprietary nvidia for some cases

for example when i play diablo 3 using wine-staging via DRI_PRIME=1 (optimus nvidia gpu) i get nice FPS on legacy resolution but everything is on high whereas windows or proprietary nvidia drivers in general (i used to have them on devuan bumblebee nvidia) was heating my gpu very badly like 90-100 degrees or more was normal. the temperature was so high that i was scared my gpu's gonna burn
so i realised i get better fps and quality but in the same time the temperature of gpu becomes ridicolously high...
so i decided to ditch proprietary nvidia for open source nouveau, and so far (i bought laptop to play diablo 3) diablo 3 runs very well under nouveau.
games like path of exile for example were running great on proprietary but in the same time gpu temperature was becoming very high, id say slightly overheating...
so i decided to start a new philosphy for myself: i dont play games that are not playable under nouveau. if the game doesnt run well under nouveau it means it's crap game.
also noticed counter strike global offensive runs very badly. so no cs go for me and i dont feel like its a bad thing

Thanks for posting here :-).

uhh i wanna play open-source games, write codes, scripts, learn how to modify open-source games, how to write them, how they're made, read lots of books... Windows games and proprietary software make these things impossible because they are against this. If i decide to play world of warcarft i spend 10 hours leveling my character while in the same time i could play open-source games and learn how to code ;/.

However i don't know where to begin. I used to like games very much but now the older i am i feel like it's not just games but my passion for open-source started to grow... I can say that open-source games and software needs lots of effort of people, and i really wish i could somewhat make open-source software world better than it is right now but i don't even know where to start.
I started with choosing Devuan OS, now i should finally stop playing windows games and get into free open-source games. But where to start, maybe i should complete some popular open-source gnu/linux games like strategies or battle for wesnoth or others... I don't know.
I played BfW with konrad and mage however i got stuck while killing queen in very last mission.
I also enjoyed playing baldurs gate however i didnt complete it and its not open-source at all...

I feel like proprietary windows online rpg games like world of warcraft, runescape and other just consume my brain ;/. I wish i could change that and stop playing windows online games at all and get into open-source online games. And if i don't like something in this game instead of begging developers for changing, i'd be able to change something for my needs.
Another thing is that i like Audacity and i am pretty sure it is somehow possible to modify this program for your own needs as well...

Okay, don't you know that youtube kills music industry, because everybody goes on youtube it's like listening to music you demand not the music you own. Because u have such a big choice of different music on the website, you become addicted to it and you become google slave. You're not supporting artits you're supporting google much more.
And yeah, i don't mind companies selling my data, but i do mind giving my data to google.cuz i think they're evil.
I used to listen to music too in the past, of course, but now i have cd's, i have records, i have headphones, i have amps, i care about good sound, and it's too much to explain it's not hi-fi forum, but i can only say that listening to music on youtube is disrespectful towards artist and mainly to yourself .
And id never support any musicians that promotes themselves on youtube. It's not real. You haven't got internet you haven't got your music
whereas if i have a record i don't need internet to listen to my fav albums.

Music on youtube is not real music . Arists should stop trying to get famous and stop being on youtube. But who cares, everybody is google slave nowadays, everybody goes on youtube fdaily, has google smartphone or apple, has gmail... I havent listened to any music on youtube for umm 8 months... I don't even go on there. It just sad that on every forum i visit when i see thread music its just some pointless links to youtube with music, i have proper hifi system and records, why would i bother with listening to crap quality mp3 streamed from some corporate evil people when i have nice records and proper speakers and it is much nicer experience... Listening to music on youtube is for poor.

Yeah init system.

I wanted to say that i tried so many distros but now after trying i can say plenty of them i realised that they were waste of time.
I don't like this approach when people say: Windows 10 is shit, use linux, linux the best. Or linux bad macos best.
I believe everybody uses different distros for different reasons, however my last systemd distro was manjaro, and... yeah it looks modern and stuff like this and... that's it. I run my laptop and i feel like: What;s going on there???
At least here on devuan i really like synaptic package manager where there are lots of nice stuff to me. I can say devuan feels truly open source to me. Systemd distros like manjaro feel to me like: Okay this is something i can't change. What's the point of using this...

I am inexperienced, but using devuan gives me possibilities to even modify this system for my needs. Learning how to use linux is great. However unfortunately because i read linux format magazine i can say that it does become 'old-fashioned' distribution that nobody uses anymore. People who write magazines or can speak in public say systemd is great. Somebody may think i don't know what's systemd. I feel the same.
The reason why im anti-systemd is this website that i mentioned in first post. Somebody clearly says don't use systemd. Even when i had systemd distros i felt like: Okay this is quite okay, but guys from the website not gonna like me.

So i really wanna get into gnu/linux and open source software, however i am not gonna use new popular distros. I have noticed on forums of manjaro for example people have attitude like: Oh manjaro is so great oh god i love it so much. And then if somebody's gonna tell him windows 10 is great, i use it, he's gonna be like: oh damn you, windows 10 is not great!! i dont wanna talk to you!!! i use linux im better!!!
When i have devuan installed on my laptop i feel like: Yeah u use windows 10 somebody else use manjaro, and i don't care. We all use what we want, because we have choices.
I don't get why people that use these modern distros convice other people to stop using windows 10. Why creators of systemd wanna take over, i feel like people who took over gnu/linux wanna also take over windows 10 and make lots of money. Is that the right attitude??

Another thing is manjaro had steam pre-installed... I don't really use steam and neither i see any reason to play these games. Nice graphics?? No thanks... I choose open-source games. Even though i play runescape, i played it for long time. I can play it on devuan and in the meantime learn how the OS works, how to modify stuff and i wanna learn writing scripts too. Scripts based on modern popular distros?? No thanks. Scripts based on -sysvinit. Yes please.

I don't know how to explain how i feel about modern linux distros. I feel like some of them are gnu/linux and some of them are just linux...... I am not a coder or experienced IT guy but i know that linux is name of kernel and proper name is Gnu/Linux. Why in the linux format magazine i have never seen GNU/Linux, only linux...

I am happy that i found something like devuan. On other websites they tell you about intel management engine, about blobs they put to your computer. Pay 1100 dollars for laptop with PureOS. Its not gonna have blobs
With devuan i feel oh okay i havent got anything on my pc. I use what i want and it is nice. I don't use windows 10, i don't use new linux i don't use macbook. I use completely something different that most people. Wanna spy on me?? Cmon do it, maybe its gonna convice you to use Devuan, haha.

So i said i came back again to this distro and im staying here... I cant explain how i felt when i used mint or manjaro, but i guess i just felt very weird... Even my laptop has different energy with devuan on compared to manjaro or mint... Manjaro the best linux distro according to linux format magazine?? Right!! Maybe for you!!

Again thanks for reading

Btw golinux i remember that u used to tell me off that i chat with people on #devuan and i should go chat on #devuan-fork instead, haha. I didnt have idea that you're administrator ;D.

edit: Again big kudos for devuan creators. I learned on this distro much more than i did on other distros. Its like i can just install it install wine play windows games and be happy. But in the same time if i feel like i can learn something new and use it for something more than just playing windows games, i can!! It's like the OS listens to me, not i listen to the OS!