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#1 Re: Devuan » The point of Devuan? » 2020-05-17 06:56:28

Yes, the point of Devuan was and remains to provide people a systemd-free Debian system. And IMO it's best for the project to stay as close as possible to that mantra. For me, all I care about is having a comprehensive, easy-to-install systemd-free apt-based Linux system for everyday use that's not just easy to install but also use, maintain and update. And as I have ab-so-lute-ly zero interest in playing personal politics I tend to stay away from the 'social' aspect of this by'n large friendly community, although as and where I can I'm more then happy to help out.

#2 Re: News & Announcements » Bound to happen ... » 2020-05-10 07:42:35

bimon wrote:
Dutch_Master wrote:

I'm still awaiting a kernel-patch from Mr Torvalds that obsoletes systemd altogether smile

I am afraid he can obsolete non systemD distros in new kernels, at least while he gets his regular wage check from corporations.

Torvalds is NOT paid by corporations, he's not on their payrolls. He's employed by a foundation and although they get donations from various corporations, that doesn't mean it'll do their bidding. For starters, Linus is too independently minded. Remember the finger he gave to nVidia? Then there's the "threat" (for want of a better word) of forking the kernel to keep such a patch out and thus non-systemd distro's alive. And IIRC Linus brought the entire kernel code (or at least his contributions, which are the core of the matter) under the GPLv3, which has a lot more restrictions on claiming IP for it by 3rd parties.

No, I'm not worried about Torvalds getting his arm up corporate bums. He's a geek and coder, not a career-technologist smile

#3 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Old Brother Scanners broken in Beowulf (problem descr. and workaround) » 2020-04-18 13:30:18

Yes, but probably not for networked devices. Although these should be approachable via said network instead. If all else fails, most (if not all) networked Brother MFC's have an SD-card slot and/or a USB port so one could load the file to a pen drive or flash-card and print from that. Cumbersome, but do-able.

#4 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Old Brother Scanners broken in Beowulf (problem descr. and workaround) » 2020-04-18 09:26:28

Good post! As a Brother user I may well switch distro's or keep Ascii for the time being. I'd expect Brother themselves would be aware of the situation and expect a brscan4 (or even 5!) version out in the not too distant future to reflect the new sane libs.

#5 Re: Installation » Beowulf Beta Issues » 2020-04-09 14:48:14

Thx for that. this is what I got after upgrading to beowulf:

cat /etc/profile
# /etc/profile: system-wide .profile file for the Bourne shell (sh(1))
# and Bourne compatible shells (bash(1), ksh(1), ash(1), ...).

if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then
export PATH

if [ "${PS1-}" ]; then
  if [ "${BASH-}" ] && [ "$BASH" != "/bin/sh" ]; then
    # The file bash.bashrc already sets the default PS1.
    # PS1='\h:\w\$ '
    if [ -f /etc/bash.bashrc ]; then
      . /etc/bash.bashrc
    if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then
      PS1='# '
      PS1='$ '

if [ -d /etc/profile.d ]; then
  for i in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; do
    if [ -r $i ]; then
      . $i
  unset i

Probably me, but I can't see a difference?

I'll try the set-path option to see if that works (I assume it will, but one never knows: I've been known to break stock installs tongue wink )

#6 Re: Installation » Beowulf Beta Issues » 2020-04-09 04:07:04

Some quick notes from me:

- bare-metal installation, re-used Samsung EVO750 SSD
- upgrade via ASCII (basic ascii system install, change sources to beowulf, dist-upgrade)
- sudo not installed (I don't use it, under ascii it's pulled in anyway, IIRC as dependency somewhere)
- installing package with dpkg fails with complaint about missing PATH for root (as root!)
- installing same package with apt works
- added Webmin repo in sources.list (+ apt-key), installed Webmin successfully
- cannot halt system via cli (as root!), via Webmin interface works (system shuts down)

This is a temporary install for a short-term project, shutting down in the next week or so.


#7 Re: News & Announcements » Bound to happen ... » 2020-04-07 10:58:49

I'm still awaiting a kernel-patch from Mr Torvalds that obsoletes systemd altogether smile

#8 Re: Off-topic » Folding@home - You can help find a cure to COVID-19! » 2020-03-31 17:59:39

GNUser wrote:

Asking people to pitch in computing power but they refuse to show the source code? That's lopsided and creepy.

I'll be happy to contribute and spread the word when they make the source code available.

Yeah, like now's the perfect time to be totally an@l about that :-\

Besides, here's the perfect reason why they won't release the source:

It is important to note that we do release the scientific modifications back to the open source community, but do not release information which would enable donors to cheat on points, which some donors have done ruining the experience for many others.

#9 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-25 18:19:40

Just for my understanding: if one already has Ascii installed, Beowulf is now ready/stable enough to be upgraded to?


#10 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-20 16:51:55

sgage wrote:

However, I notice there is no volume indicator on the top panel as usual, nor is there one available for adding.

This is correct for Mate, and it hasn't been there for a fair while. (2017-ish? IIRC!) It's been lacking from upstream, so it's not a Devuan issue AFAIK.

#11 Re: Other Issues » Can't access my routers webinterface » 2020-03-20 14:28:02

And therein lies your problem: is a different network to tongue

#12 Re: News & Announcements » Beowulf Beta is here! » 2020-03-19 14:55:46

puma wrote:

When do you think the next stable will bereleased?
Please respons to me.

This is the second time you ask in as many days and it has been answered yesterday in the exact post following yours. READ IT!

Direct link: click!

#13 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Moving installation to SSD drive » 2020-03-14 22:24:02

Bookmark this page:

Tools to investigate (use the link, for instance) are (in no particular order):
which, strace, ps, whereis, grep/egrep/pgrep, lsof, locate/slocate and htop

#14 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Moving installation to SSD drive » 2020-03-14 16:06:01

No, not really. Unless your system is seriously memory-starved and swap comes into play often, in which case it's advisable to move it to a spinning disk instead as Flash drives do not cope too well with high read/write load cycles: it shortens their lifespan considerably. But as you stated swap is rarely used, don't bother now. My system also has an SSD for the system, including swap, but like yours it's seldom used so I don't bother about it. One of my SSD's (1st gen. consumer grade stuff, from Crucial, 60GB) lasted well over 60,000hrs before replacing it not so long ago.

#15 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Moving installation to SSD drive » 2020-03-14 13:54:25

Partition/disk management in Linux takes place in the /etc/fstab file. So, in order for the old partitions to be ignored, you'd have to comment them out (put a # in front of the line) Swap is also managed in that file, following the same syntax as a normal partition:

UUID=7af41fff-29cd-4f83-a099-aec1cb6eda8a none            swap    sw              0       0

This is swap activated in my system, your UUID will differ but feel free to copy the (rest of the) line as is.

Tip: to obtain UUID's for your partitions, use the blkid command on the cli, as described in this wiki page. (which I wrote, btw tongue )

Do note that every edit to the /etc/fstab file needs to be done as root!

#16 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Mainboard ASUS with AMD Ryzen 3: root device not found » 2020-03-04 18:44:12

Wilkommen ins Forum!

Boot into the Live-CD, then do a filesystem check (fsck) of all partitions. Make sure your Devuan system has the requisite tools available, various packages offer support for individual file systems (like XFS, JFS, BTRFS, etc). What's the contents of the file /etc/fstab? (use the code tags in the forum to keep things neat and tidy)

#17 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] B360M-C Motherboard Installation » 2020-02-29 01:12:00

Can't tell you how common this particular chipset is, but you'll probably find the driver on the install-DVD. That by itself is a more complete netinstall medium over the existing .iso and can be used as such (I do, at work wink ) when choosing a basic install, get the sources.list properly set up and away you go!

#18 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » UDEV problem - Brother MFC7420 » 2020-02-26 14:45:40

Did you set the permissions right? Make sure your regular user is a member of the printing and scanning groups. Brother has excellent Linux support, try their Linux page and follow the installation steps closely.


#19 Re: Other Issues » Connectivity issues after recent update » 2020-02-19 19:54:57

Thx gentlemen. On reflection, I have purged both network managers from my system, adjusted /etc/network/interfaces as suggested and will await the next boot for results. This machine is indeed my regular desktop, which is on for most of the day when I'm home.

#20 Re: Other Issues » Connectivity issues after recent update » 2020-02-19 12:10:34

Yup, my bad, it's indeed in /etc/networkmanager.

Oddly enough, the issues I had even yesterday don't seem to manifest themselves today. However, I doubt removing either of the managers as you suggest would solve it, as it has worked flawlessly before with both installed. But thx for the suggestion anyway, should it re-occur I might ditch wcid to see if there's a conflict between the two.

#21 Other Issues » Connectivity issues after recent update » 2020-02-18 18:15:03

Replies: 8

Since the recent update (a few days ago) my Ascii system looses network connectivity pretty much instantly after boot. I can re-establish a network connection using the wcid widget, but before said update, my network was always connected to my LAN. After a period of inactivity, the network disconnects again, despite my settings (in wcid) to re-establish a connection when lost. The system has a Gigibyte F2A88XM-D3H mainboard, with a Realtec RTL8111/8168/8411 Gbit network chipset, no wireless.


# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
# This is an autoconfigured IPv6 interface
iface eth0 inet6 auto




Hope this can be resolved quickly, as it's getting old now :-\

#22 Re: Installation » SOLVED: Cinnamon, but not MATE, beeps on shutdown » 2020-01-08 01:59:26

Find and open Sound Preferences, in the "Sound Effects" tab, select "no sound" as sound-theme. Worked for me, YMMV!

#23 Re: Installation » SOLVED: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf different in Cinnamon versus MATE » 2020-01-08 01:56:17

I'm running Mate, it's there: /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf Did you install the default gtk-greeter for lightdm? (you should, as it's a dependency IIRC)

#24 Re: Installation » MariaDB server debian.cnf file with Beowulf » 2020-01-02 01:04:44

When I installed db-servers, the root-pw question came up as part of the installer. Apparently it didn't with yours. Perhaps a purge and re-install? I assume it's not a production machine (yet).

#25 Re: Installation » Beowulf and PHP install » 2019-12-31 06:03:02

Aptitude is the cli package manager. I'm assuming you log in to this headless machine via ssh, right? As root, do:

apt-get update && apt install aptitude

Starting it is simple: type in apti then press the tab key for completion, hit the Enter key and it runs. Use the / key to instigate a search, n cycles through the results and q quits the program.

As for the meta-package thing, did you do a Google search? I did, this is one of the top links it came up with: … -a-package

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