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#1 Re: Other Issues » [Solved] Older version of php » 2018-07-09 20:11:50

Might be better to switch to something newer as 5.6 will EOL in about 5 months. As for adding repos it depends and giving a general opinion is pretty much impossible. What repo would you want to add? Cleanest option would probably be to build your own packages though.

#2 Re: Installation » Trying to install Devuan ASCII in qemu/libvirt virtual machine » 2018-07-05 19:49:31

Sorry, i can't help here but i am a bit confused why libvirt would need knowledge about the installer layout. Why wouldn't it just setup a virtual CD drive and run the installer? It's full hardware virtualization after all. Qemu has no problem with the ISO as it obviously does not care what's on it as long as it's bootable.

#3 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Devuan 2.0.0 on Raspberry Pi 3 plus with GUI? » 2018-07-04 11:35:30

Yeah, true, assuming he is looking for a minimal install getting the required packages one by one might be a better idea than installing xorg.

#4 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Devuan 2.0.0 on Raspberry Pi 3 plus with GUI? » 2018-07-04 10:59:38

Not sure but i'd try apt-get install xorg to be sure you have all the required packages. I have a feeling the guide assumes you already have a working x installation and our error suggests there are some missing.

#5 Re: Off-topic » Survey: Impact of Microsoft acquirement of GitHub » 2018-07-02 16:49:50

Who besides MS would care about those results? Not going to enter anything in this form. As others said they aren't paying me and i can only second the dislike for google. Also great survey that tries to influence participants right in the header.

#6 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] elogind package bug » 2018-07-01 17:10:33

I guess that's more related to XFCE than X itself then. I am running icewm with neither elogind or consolekit (obviously using xserver-xorg-legacy and needs_root_rights=yes) without problems here.

#7 Re: Installation » default packages » 2018-07-01 17:06:27

That's great. I guess i'll try setup  a public repo then as soon as possible then. Just want to do a couple logic changes first (to not waste peoples time with trying to understand something that's about to change anyways) and split up the iso build script so it's less of a wall of text.

#8 Re: Installation » [Discussed] Upgrading: Ascii to Beowulf » 2018-07-01 14:45:09

golinux wrote:

Beowulf is not ready for primetime yet.  Especially on the Desktop.

#9 Re: Installation » default packages » 2018-07-01 14:43:48

fsmithred wrote:

it would be a huge task.

Yeah, kind of. The installation itself and most of the setup is fairly simple. The need for menu driven partitioning is what making it huge. My choice of trying to stay with shell scripting and dialog sure doesn't help it but i figure it still wouldn't be easy i had chosen a real language.

fsmithred wrote:

I'll be interested to see what you come up with.

Cool. I hope to have something to upload during the next weeks.

#10 Re: Installation » default packages » 2018-06-30 19:36:51

bash64 wrote:
devuser wrote:

Interesting. I pretty much exclusively use the textinstaller and at least cryptsetup and mdadm (likely also lvm2) get installed. Not sure if i'd want dkms or inxi on my systems by default but i agree that cryptsetup, mdadm and lvm2 should be seen as essential and at least be on the installer CD. I wonder if the installer tries to be smart somehow and only installs them if you enter a partition setup where they are required.


I'd say you are right.
So far , from the expert install, lvm and crypt are present but not running unless you create an encrypted volume or an lvm volume.
This really depends on the installer whether they are present or have to be installed afterwards.
I haven't found anything consistent about this.

I guess the installer works with the assumption that whatever lvm/crypt volumes will be used by the installation will also be created by it and i very much agree that isn't optimal.

bash64 wrote:

My needs are still the same regardless of how well or poor my understanding of dev1 is at this time (I've only been at this for 3 days now, give me a break).
I need mdadm, crypt and lvm2 running at install time and I need to type in the password for the encrypted volumes. The encrypted volume will have other volumes such as lvm2 volumes in it so a reread of volumes is needed
I was very impressed with the expert install modes. They are excellent.
However, I was only able to define the encrypted volumes as that, but not able to type in the password and it worried me that it intended to format them so I backed out.

Yeah, your fears were probably quite well grounded. If they are actually present the only option i see is basically not partitioning anything at all and instead doing the mounting using the shell. Needless to say this really isn't optimal again and even if it works i don't think it'll be much fun.

Afaik the Devuan team has plans to build a new installer but before that happens i doubt much will change (just my opinion - i am not even on the dev team). Maybe there is someone who has the needed background, skill and time but at least for me it seemed easier to write my own installer from scratch than to attempt customizing the existing one. Funnily enough i am just sitting at the partition setup part. A 20kb+ and growing dialog powered shell script monster. I know it doesn't help you now but if i manage to finish this thing hacking in an "unlock - don't format" checkbox should be pretty much a 5 minute job.

#11 Re: Installation » default packages » 2018-06-30 09:01:48

Interesting. I pretty much exclusively use the textinstaller and at least cryptsetup and mdadm (likely also lvm2) get installed. Not sure if i'd want dkms or inxi on my systems by default but i agree that cryptsetup, mdadm and lvm2 should be seen as essential and at least be on the installer CD. I wonder if the installer tries to be smart somehow and only installs them if you enter a partition setup where they are required.

#12 Re: Installation » default packages » 2018-06-30 02:33:34

Uhh, included by default where?

#13 Re: Other Issues » update problem » 2018-06-29 11:44:50

Did you maybe edit the file on Windows? That is likely to leave bad line breaks behind. Also what @dxrobertson said. Those 2 lines you posted look find and shouldn't cause a problem imo.

#14 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » System Specifications Of Users Systems? » 2018-06-29 11:42:05

Right now i am using a Thinkpad X220 (i5-2520M with 4GB RAM) but i also have a Core2Duo desktop (2.7GHZ or something?) with again 4GB of RAM, some cheap shit TFT and a GForce 9800GT (likely not worth mentioning considering the age but oh well). The Core2Duo is sometimes showing it's age but aside from recent games (i hardly game anyways) and some ridiculously Javascript intensive websites it's perfectly fine for my usage. I'd really like to have a SSD for the laptop but it's more about saving battery and data safety than performance. I hardly do anything that's bound to disk I/O so HDDs won't bother me. I also use a custom desktop that would still run great on a Pentium3 (obviously a lot of applications wouldn't and compiling stuff would take ages but you get the idea) so i don't really need a lot of power anyways.

#16 Re: Installation » raid+encryption+lvm » 2018-06-28 17:51:42

Sorry, i have zero experience with the live installer. Unless someone else can chime in i guess @fsmithred (this forum needs a tagging mod...) would be your best bet since afaik hes the author.

#17 Re: Installation » raid+encryption+lvm » 2018-06-28 16:50:50

Hmm, it loading them after the partitioning might not be a deal breaker as you could go back to the main menu (not sure exactly how but iirc if cancel the dialogs the setup shows you'll sooner or later end up there) and redo the partitioning step. Also i think the expert installer would just drop you in this menu instead of automatically starting the install.

Edit: Might have been badly worded. I am not building a custom ISO i am trying to build my own installer as i dislike customizing the default one wink

#18 Re: Installation » raid+encryption+lvm » 2018-06-28 16:18:29

bash64 wrote:

However, when I open a console I get busybox which is not a complete shell and I cannot install lvm2 and cryptsetup so that the textinstaller can see my volumes.

This is true. You could try with a statically linked lvm2/cryptsetup but it's a bit of a pain to build all the dependencies (i am toying with a custom installer on the side and building just a static cryptsetup is no fun and lvm likely is not much nicer). Not sure if this would solve the problem but trying is free (besides time). If you are interested i can post the part of my buildscript concerning cryptsetup. It also builds libdevmapper which is part of lvm2 so maybe you could get something running without to many adjustments.

Edit: Since the installer handles encryption/LVM are you sure there are no cryptsetup/LVM binaries when it runs the partition setup?

bash64 wrote:

It appears to see the raid just fine. I had to recreate the encryption and the logical volumes inside of it. This means I have to rebuild my partitions every time I want to reinstall the OS and recover my personal files from a backup. Considering I have over 3TB of personal files this is not desirable.

I see. If the above doesn't help the only idea i have is trying to work around it by setting the mount of the home partition post install. If can life without LVM for root the only downside would be that you have to unlock 2 partitions at boot.

bash64 wrote:

Is there a way to launch the text mode installer from the live desktop version?

Sadly i don't think that's possible.

#19 Re: Other Issues » Firestarter » 2018-06-28 08:44:52

Looks pretty nice. Probably won't use it as i am way to used to my aliases and custom scripting but some people might very well find this useful. Actually it looks way better than all the other network status GUI tools i've seen before. As for being old i don't see much of a problem there as virtually none of the basic functionality has changed in years and years.

#20 Re: Installation » A problem with the sound in kde on beowufl, i'm migrate to beowulf » 2018-06-28 08:31:13

Sorry, i have zero experience with beowulf but for a start does the card show up in lspci (i guess it's a PCI card?) and aplay -l. I know the ALSA output doesn't say all that much since KDE likely uses pulseaudio but i have no experience with this again.

Edit: Is firmware-linux and firmware-linux-nonfree installed?

#21 Re: Installation » Ascii upgrade messed up the devuan jessie » 2018-06-28 08:25:10

Caluser2000 wrote:
erdos wrote:
msi wrote:

Ok, I see. First, I'd try setting sources.list back to Jessie and then run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. If that goes well, I'd reboot and see how that goes.

Btw, it's a good idea to use code tags when posting config files. That makes it more readable.


The issue remains unresolved because the wifi is not working and system is in read-only mode after attempted ascii upgrade.

The best thing you can do is backup any data/documents then do a fresh installation of whatever distro you want to install. It'll be far quicker than trying to recover a a borked install.

Quite likely. At least if don't know how to debug it yourself and can somewhat approximate the work needed. Still trying to fix it has more of a learning effect than just reinstalling. Up to @erdos preference i guess.

#22 Re: Installation » raid+encryption+lvm » 2018-06-27 23:02:02

bash64 wrote:

p.s. will the textinstaller format the filesystems?

By default yes. Not sure if there is an option in the partition menu where you can unselect it. Iirc it won't touch unused partitions though. The textmode installer is virtually identical to Debian if that helps.

Edit: Thinking about it if theres an existing filesystem you might have to explicitly tell it to format (should be in the menu with the options for the partition) or maybe you will be asked about it. If you delete the existing partitions and create new ones they'll be formated for sure though.

#23 Re: Installation » raid+encryption+lvm » 2018-06-27 22:52:39

bash64 wrote:
devuser wrote:

I usually skip lvm and just do encrypted raid but the normal (non-live) textmode installer should be able to do that.

Edit: I am bit surprised the graphical installer would not let you switch to a shell (on VT4/VT5 iirc?) but then i never use it so i guess it's possible that wont work there.

sorry, wasnt thinking about using a console.
i was thinking about a terminal.
yeah, it was there i would imagine.
anyway, your saying that the textmode installer will see all of my volumes?

Tbh i am not sure about the lvm part. I know it'll let you create them so i guess it should also detect existing volumes.

#24 Re: Installation » raid+encryption+lvm » 2018-06-27 22:43:56

I usually skip lvm and just do encrypted raid but the normal (non-live) textmode installer should be able to do that.

Edit: I am bit surprised the graphical installer would not let you switch to a shell (on VT4/VT5 iirc?) but then i never use it so i guess it's possible that wont work there.

#25 Re: Installation » Ascii upgrade messed up the devuan jessie » 2018-06-27 20:21:45

erdos wrote:

system is in read-only mode after attempted ascii upgrade.

As in your disks are mounted read only? That seems to be more of a disk problem. What does your partition layout and filesystems look like?

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