> Yeah Palemoon works great, plays youtube fine and everything else too.

I hope that Palemoon becomes a serious contender. Ever since the Mozilla
team decided to deprecate ALSA (as a primary backend on linux) and forced
users into the Pulseaudio way (who wrote it ... yup, red hat poettering), I stopped
caring about firefox.

I actually think that it may be better altogether if mozilla disbands - because it is
evident that all hope is lost with them. This is not just pulseaudio by the way;
alienating developers by deprecating their work out of nowhere; claiming to be
a privacy-respecting organization but then using google analytics "because it
is so useful"; being unable to use C++ and so inventing a new language altogether
(rust ... what the ...); making changes that are irrelevant for many old powerusers
and so on and so forth. They are killing firefox, either out of stupidity or deliberately,
so we really need more real alternatives. I actually don't even think that browsers
in general should be COMPLEX. They should be simple, lean, flexible but
also USEFUL and modular.

I don't have pulseaudio and don't want it. Firefox keeps on trying to auto-update
all the time, even when I set that it shall not do so via about:config. If it auto-updates,
I lose all audio in the browser because I don't have pulseaudio. Isn't it weird when a
company auto-updates you and you lose sound in the process? The canceling of
auto-update via about:config also does not work 100%; I still get the main firefox
widget that keeps on nagging "you should upgrade because a new version has
been released". And I found no way to disable that nagging widget either. I tried
with ublock origin to block it away but unfortunately it only blocks external stuff,
not fireox-pester pop-ups.

As a backup browser I use opera. Opera uses google chrome unfortunately so it
is just a copy-cat but ... I simply need to get things done. I can't use linux
without browsers, they are that important. :\

>  There are also more packages that need attention as systemd expands its reach

You mean ... systemd is spreading into other projects?

Hmm...

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> FOSSuser wrote:

>  I think it is 'designed' to be faulty, so that RH can sell you a support contract/package & make money out of Linux.

Spot on.

Red Hat is throwing out the money for corporate hackers to ruin Linux.

It's not "just" systemd alone, by the way. How many drones are working on
Gnome 3 and KDE 5? And now compare KDE 5 to KDE 3 and tell me how
many free hackers remained from the KDE 3 days. You can actually read
up on many similar user stories how KDE 3 was the last good KDE and
then things constantly worsened over time, with pointless gimmicks and
shiny flashy but useless widgets.

I understand that these greedy corporate hackers want to generate revenue
but this comes at the cost of people using Linux as a whole.

> Just type "against systemd" (include the quotes) into Google to get a good choice.

The problem is that the articles and results vary immensely in quality.

It would be best to split them into technical relevance, as opposed to social problems
e. g. in the latter one could include developers deciding for users without asking
them.

From a technical point of view, there are a lot of hilarious bugs and discussions
on the issue tracker which is often popcorn worthy.