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#1 Off-topic » Google search gives DEVUAN as DEAD ? » 2019-06-06 21:08:46
- spartrekus
- Replies: 15
Hello,
I search for devuan over Google, regularly with search, and it comes that on all found search, we end to DEBIAN.
Is devuan dead, actually? I believe that not.
Why google does not return devuan, like it should... strange.
best regards
#2 Re: Installation » How install SVN Subversion server on DEVUAN ? » 2019-06-03 15:30:49
mkdir svn-repo
chgrp -R svn svn-repo
cd svn-repo
svnadmin create
chmod -R 770 .
chmod g+s db
it might be to setup, but to install the server (like apache)?
#3 Re: Off-topic » Abbreviation for opensource (OS?) » 2019-06-03 15:29:22
"Thus, if you want to be neutral between free software and open source, and clear about them, the way to achieve that is to say “FLOSS,” not “FOSS.”"
Floss vs foss, which is actually not so much straight forward, but seems ok.
Shorter would have maybe be possible actually.
#4 Desktop and Multimedia » 3D Home Design / Architect / Planner for Linux? » 2019-06-02 20:25:35
- spartrekus
- Replies: 1
Hello,
Would you know a possible good, opensource, 3D Home Design / Architect / Planner for Linux?
There is likely a possible alternative: Sweet Home 3D.
Looking forward to reading you, Thank you very much.
Best regards
#5 Off-topic » Abbreviation for opensource (OS?) » 2019-06-02 20:23:56
- spartrekus
- Replies: 2
Hello,
There is GNU, but OS is quite similar to operating system.
What would be the abbreviation for Opensource?
Thank you
#6 Re: Installation » How install SVN Subversion server on DEVUAN ? » 2019-05-25 19:47:11
Do you want subversion VCS or general task is to make remote repo and git will be ok too?
Just regular checkout via svn and commit over svn too.
svn checkout ip/text
#7 Installation » How install SVN Subversion server on DEVUAN ? » 2019-05-23 16:53:28
- spartrekus
- Replies: 6
Hello,
What would be the easiest method to get a running SVN Subversion server ?
Major commands would be to have few users maybe 5 users, that that checkout and commit their files.
A quota shall be given, with about 50 Megabytes (only).
The idea is just to commit and to work on few TeX (latex) documents together, using SVN Subversion under (Unix) / Linux, and Mac.
Looking forward to hearing you.
Best regards,
Sp.
#8 Desktop and Multimedia » Possible to install KDE without Pulseaudio and nice replacement? » 2019-01-18 16:44:39
- spartrekus
- Replies: 3
Hello,
On x86 desktop, to record and to play, you need to pass by the mega sound system pulseaudio. Pulseaudio locks all what comes as "stranger" which is not pulseaudio.
It is a drawback for full use with device access freedom, but ok for regular user desktop (e.g. mouse click only).
Ist is maybe possible to remove pulseaudio from kde, likely with another sound system?
thank you very much in advance.
#9 Re: Installation » Devuan running very slow on Raspberry PI 3 b+ » 2019-01-18 16:41:06
After many tries, and tries, I come to conclusion that it comes from the operating system, likely kernel of devuan.
Raspbian is much faster than devuan,
FreeBSD is much faster than Raspbian for non X-heavy application, but chrome/chromium is the fastest on the raspbian.
Comparison with blackbox and icewm, and minimal installation.
It depends mostly from the given OS kernel I believe.
Tested with (10) scandisk 16mb, good one actually.
1) KERNEL
uname -a
Linux devuan 4.16.14-v8+ #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 5 18:50:10 CEST 2018 aarch64 GNU/Linux
uname -a #1159 SMP Sun Nov 4 17:50:20 GMT 2018 armv7l GNU/Linux
Linux raspberrypi 4.14.79-v7+ #1159 SMP Sun Nov 4 17:50:20 GMT 2018 armv7l GNU/Linux
ls /lib/modules/
4.14.79+ 4.14.79-v7+
2) CHROMIUM
How to make chromium runs faster.
Devuan will give slow reaction of chromium, i.e. visible on youtube.com. Slow videos, for instance.
Raspbian runs faster for chromium-browser .
Fastest way to get chromium-browser raspbian fast:
get lite zip raspbian and bring it up.
apt-get update ; apt-get install -y --no-install-recommends chromium-browser xinit xterm icewm enjoy
#10 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-29 15:03:42
spartrekus wrote:golinux wrote:That is a non-sequitur. I think that something was lost in translation. Alsa is here to stay. apulse just allows apps to use alsa instead of pulseaudio where pulseaudio is a required dependency.
apulse is a tiny workaround, but it won't replace fully pulseaudio.
apulse is not intended to replace alsa. It is intended to allow alsa to be used without having to send it through pulseaudio. For example audio will not work in FF quantum without pulseaudio. But I just uninstalled pulseaudio. installed apulse and sound still works. It fools FF into thinking that pulseaudio is there.
You may try to use a LInux desktop like Gnome, XFCE,... without pulseaudio.
I happily use Xfce without pulseaudio.
Is is possible to install xfce4 without pulseaudio, without manual "cleaning", in order to get the apulse sound workaround?
apt-get install xfce4 will give all pulseaudio stuffs 
#11 Installation » Dual Boot FreeBSD and DEVUAN ? » 2018-12-29 14:48:37
- spartrekus
- Replies: 1
Hello,
The host is a notebook Acer, i386, with two major operating systems, as follows.
I have the following partitions:
- /dev/sda1 with Devuan Stable (16GB, installed and bootable)
- /dev/sda2 with FreeBSD (~900GB, installed, works, but boots with chainloader)
- /dev/sda3 with Swap (the rest).
Both systems are working as they should.
Grub is working and it is on the first partition.
Grub (on Linux Devuan /dev/sda1) is intended to allow to boot both operating systems.
Which Grub content would you recommend to boot FreeBSD for /boot/grub/grub.conf (/dev/sda1) ?
For Linux, it works since grub does the job, i.e. a regular linux / initrd.
I considered using the chainloader +1 for BSD, but maybe it could be better idea.
Thank you for your inputs
menuentry 'FreeBSD Unix Operating System on sda2' {
insmod utf
set root=(hd0,2)
chainloader +1
}
menuentry 'Rescue OS (Devuan GNU/Linux sda1)' --class devuan --class gnu-linux --class gnu {
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
echo 'Loading Linux 4.9.0-6-686-pae Rescue System ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-6-686-pae root=/dev/sda1 rw
echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-6-686-pae
}#12 Re: Installation » Devuan running very slow on Raspberry PI 3 b+ » 2018-12-22 19:16:39
Thank you for your message.
I am glad to read that it could be less so slow. hopefully.
On the same SD card, I installed FreeBSD and it runs faster. With icewm it takes about 20 mb.
#13 Installation » Devuan running very slow on Raspberry PI 3 b+ » 2018-12-18 07:48:29
- spartrekus
- Replies: 9
Hello,
I have installed Devuan on SDcard, and it runs quite slow actually.
employed file: -> devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3.img.xz 06-Jun-2018 11:28 153M
I installed only blackbox, xpaint, scribus, links, dillo, git and subversion.
The SD card is scandisk model 10, pretty good actually. However, performances could be better.
Which improvements would be possible to get Linux faster?
#14 Re: Off-topic » Life after Firefox » 2018-12-18 07:25:38
Maybe a good thing, would be to rewrite the HTML to have less CSS, Java,....
Your web would look different, smoother, and free for everyone.
+1 netsurf
+1 links
#15 Re: Installation » GRUB update renders the machine unbootable » 2018-12-18 07:19:53
I found a work around is to install grub with dd.
It works and it is reliable.
The grub of devuan has some bugs, sometimes it works, sometimes not.
you can install anyhow with the classic debootstrap:
https://github.com/spartrekus/devuan-installation
#16 Other Issues » Gnumeric installs Gnome » 2018-12-18 07:17:18
- spartrekus
- Replies: 2
Hello,
The simple command : apt-get install gnumeric will result in a lot of packages, which actually is part of gnome (evince,... and "millions" things).
The deb dependencies are therefore faulty.
Would it be some concern from Devuan about such issue(s)?
thank you
#17 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-15 05:42:55
spartrekus wrote:golinux wrote:Why is an alternative needed at all? What's wrong with alsa? Though I've never tried, I understand that apulse can reinstate alsa functionality in applications that have a dependency on pulseaudio. Will need to figure that out when Quantum is unavoidable. There are notes in this forum and also on DNG.
Alsa is ok. Alsa cannot be avoided for graphical usage and multimedia from Linux kernel. Alsa takes crucial part in the kernel for audio.
That is a non-sequitur. I think that something was lost in translation. Alsa is here to stay. apulse just allows apps to use alsa instead of pulseaudio where pulseaudio is a required dependency.
apulse is a tiny workaround, but it won't replace fully pulseaudio.
You may try to use a LInux desktop like Gnome, XFCE,... without pulseaudio. Gnome requires pulseaudio, so the user is locked behind (no freedom).
--
Gnome audio and more reading:
https://developer.gnome.org/platform-ov … io.html.en
#18 Re: Devuan » Migrating from Mint » 2018-12-14 18:59:47
Hello chaps,
Recently I found about systemd and started to consider migrating to a better OS. I've been using Mint since 2015, I'm not an advanced user but I get by just fine if there are good instructions around.
The great thing about Mint is the easy of use and install, but it was very disappointing to find that they barely want to discuss systemd alternatives.So I started to try Devuan on a secondary system, I intend to ask about a few difficulties on other topics, but first I just wanted to know if there plans to make Devuan a bit more user friendly?
Antergos was a joy to install (despite requiring to be connected) that feature selection is great, having the choice to select a few programs and the firewall before installing is really helpful. Could a similar installer be used on Devuan?
Cheers
what about mx linux? pretty good
#19 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-14 18:57:54
spartrekus wrote:If pulseaudio has such a not so good reputation, why not to rewrite another one, but better?
Why is an alternative needed at all? What's wrong with alsa? Though I've never tried, I understand that apulse can reinstate alsa functionality in applications that have a dependency on pulseaudio. Will need to figure that out when Quantum is unavoidable. There are notes in this forum and also on DNG.
Alsa is ok. Alsa cannot be avoided for graphical usage and multimedia from Linux kernel. Alsa takes crucial part in the kernel for audio.
#20 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-14 18:06:47
Whether pulseaudio is bad or not, it's a very different situation to systemd. The main difference is that it was written as *nix software rather than "Linux proprietary", like systemd. So it can be installed and run on e.g. the 'BSDs, Illumos, even macOS.
It can be avoided - any software which supposedly depends on it can be recompiled to use an alternative sound system / server. Many people confuse the choices of distribution maintainers and new defaults with "hard dependencies".
The real story of why pulseaudio got such a bad reputation, is down to Ubuntu about 10 years ago. They, as ever, released a half baked implementation which caused many users a lot of grief at the time. Even Poettering described it at the time as the "software which breaks your sound" or some such thing.
If pulseaudio has such a not so good reputation, why not to rewrite another one, but better?
#21 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-14 15:47:59
Ron wrote:I agree with spartrekus that pulseaudio is crap. I avoid anything made by its author.
The error is that he described pulseaudio as non-free software. No one dislikes pulseaudo more than I. But just as systemd is free software so is pulseaudio according to the license (if not the spirit). All his other complaints are also not true. So it is indeed "bullocks". There is no non-free software in the "main" repository. non-free has to be enabled in order to install proprietary blobs. Under certain circumstances, blobs are available if needed during the OS installation procedure.
The meaning of "Free" can take several definitions.
One can be also "free" to accept everything in Windows 10. One point of view about meaning of free, since one has choice.
It can be harmful and free. A trojan can be made with source code available + with GNU General Public License, Version 3. Then, it will enter the stable release.
#22 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-13 19:49:19
What a lot of bollocks.
Those are maybe so depending on each of us convictions and visions about Unix. The way Unix evolves is multiple and is allowed to take many directions.
Mind settings are based on each of us personal experiences about opensource and Unix.
By the end, every operating systems may look similar after many many years. It is law physics.
Example: sea plants, which evolve to same characteristic features.
#23 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-13 15:21:19
spartrekus wrote:Hello,
I think that that Devuan tries to be a *free* distribution, without ads, malwares, spying, NSA, and many beautiful modern Snowden technologies. But, Devuan and Linux kernel running increasingly more and more full of those things.
One of them is Pulseaudio, which makes Devuan not like it is described:
https://devuan.org/os/free-softwareCitation needed. I would really like to read about pulseaudio with respect to what you're describing...? Seriously what has Poettering been up to now?
spartrekus wrote:Chromium has no place here in the distribution.
You didn't mention firefox...?
spartrekus wrote:Why Wayland? This is not congruent with the *free* software.
Wayland is from the X11 developers (X.org) and released under the MIT licence (as with X11), so what is the problem?
spartrekus wrote:Devuan is definitely not a Free Operating System, because it contains many Snowden components.
What are these "components"? Citation, links, etc...?
spartrekus wrote:Devuan is actually not a free operating system, especially because it contains specific softwares.
Nonsense statement.
spartrekus wrote:How can Devuan become closer to a free operating system, like Unix (e.g. OpenBSD), and without malwares, ads,... ?
Another nonsense statement. Most real UNIX are still proprietary.
As an OpenBSD user, I can assure you that chromium, pulseaudio and other software which you may find objectionable, can be installed from ports.
Wayland breaks the Unix-like operating system. There is little sense to bring Wayland as a replacement of X11, and it should stay in Debian and not be in Devuan (under free software).
There are lot of concerns about pulseaudio.
The best quote in short:
Both pulseaudio and systemd are literally FORCED onto users by the decisions of a few lazy and corrupted distro maintainers.
Chromium, firefox,... pulseaudio and other software like that should placed be in non-free or under the new "nsa" for your sources.list.
#24 Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2018-12-13 14:40:50
- spartrekus
- Replies: 55
Hello,
I think that that Devuan tries to be a *free* distribution, without ads, malwares, spying, NSA, and many beautiful modern Snowden technologies. But, Devuan and Linux kernel running increasingly more and more full of those things.
One of them is Pulseaudio, which makes Devuan not like it is described:
https://devuan.org/os/free-software
Chromium has no place here in the distribution. Why Wayland? This is not congruent with the *free* software.
Why Pulseaudio is still present?
Devuan is definitely not a Free Operating System, because it contains many Snowden components.
Devuan is actually not a free operating system, especially because it contains specific softwares.
How can Devuan become closer to a free operating system, like Unix (e.g. OpenBSD), and without malwares, ads,... ?
With best regards,
Sp.
#25 Desktop and Multimedia » Dolphin and Konqueror not working on X11 forward » 2018-12-13 05:54:36
- spartrekus
- Replies: 0
Hello,
There is the following issue : Dolphin and Konqueror not working on X11 forward.
icons not working and access to files not working.
ssh -C -X ipkde
xterm -e dolphin
Which solution may be proposed?
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