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#1 Re: Other Issues » ISBN number reader/scanner/database builder? » Yesterday 16:46:49

Thank you Chris!

In the long term I think something like that would be optimum.

For now though, just getting the place organized and some kind of database is the short term target, it's a tiny library and we may be overly ambitious for it.

Found a program last night, doesn't look like it's maintained in some 4 years, but downloaded an appimage and tested and it seems to be a good interim solution. It's called Symphytum, and it's a very simple database/GUI you customize yourself.

We'll have to set all the params for it, and enter everything manually, about 2500 titles or so, but after it's done we'll have a nice easily searchable database.

I'm going to try and piece together a second working computer from the several older ones they have, so we can have one for the patrons to use to search the database as well, just need a tiny simple system as that will be the only use for that machine, haven't checked yet but i'm guessing the older machines are 32 bit.

Burning a custom version of Vuu-do for it tonight that includes appimages for the browser and the database prog, the newer machine they have is almost the same exact specs as my laptop, so it should run fine even with just 2 gigs of RAM.

Thanks for the help guys, if anybody has some experience with Symphytum please let me know how it worked for you.

#2 Re: Off-topic » AI Safety » 2024-11-19 23:07:49

How do you define "intelligence"? For surely that has more bearing on this topic than anything else.

My own father was literally a rocket scientist who helped put the first men on the moon, a mathematical prodigy of epic proportion, but in reality he was something of a savant, he couldn't figure out how to change the oil on the car, nor even use the simplest of handtools to build things that I could already do at 10 years old.

I know a guy that absolutely nobody would think was intelligent, but he can solve mechanical/fabrication problems in epic fashion, give him a new problem to solve that there isn't even an established method of solving yet, and in a few minutes he will have the simplest, most elegant, fastest and most secure solution there is. And it's just effortless for him, I learned a great deal working with him, mainly that I myself, as so many "smart" people are, was guilty constantly of waaaaay overthinking things.

#3 Re: Installation » minimal X install » 2024-11-19 22:41:55

Well a lot of the stuff I got away with on Vuu-do is no longer possible, that was 7 years ago, and the whole thing is devoid of sooooo much stuff that is mandatory now.

But the thing is, if you just want to manage grub and do some text editing, it won't matter one bit. Everything on it works regardless of it's age. In fact I still run the full version on a couple machines, I just use an imageapp for the browser as it's the only thing that absolutely requires a newer version.

The mini is 347 mb, about 1.1 gigs installed, and after install you can trim it down even more, I put basically every piece of firmware in the repo on it to insure functionality of all hardware, so after install you can delete whatever you aren't using, it's also got some other programs you might not use, so you can easily get it down to less than a gig.

869 packages in it, I could post the list here if the mods don't think it would take up too much space, or e-mail it or I don't know if stuff like pastebin is still around but could do that.

I even updated the OS-prober on it to properly recognize and name Vuu-do and Devuan installs which it didn't do previously, also got rid of old entries that are no longer around.

But as far as building something like it today from the Daedalus repo, not happening, it would be waaaaay bigger. Vuu-do was built entirely on the last gen of Linux in general, pure GTK2, Python2, ALSA, 3.16 kernel, etc.

You should try it OP, it's a liveCD so you can take it for a spin easily enough, and it uses the refracta installer so install is all of about 5 minutes.

#4 Re: Installation » minimal X install » 2024-11-18 23:06:05

If you're just looking for something small to use a text editor in a graphic environment, the Vuu-do minimal I made some 7 years ago now, is a mini Devuan 1 (Jessie). It has a full Openbox system but without any extra programs like a browser or music player, it was intended to be a system for the user to build on.

The .iso is only 347 mb and unpacks to right around 1.1 gigs or a little better, it does include all the infrastructure including the Pluma text editor and all other utilities, it's light and fast and only uses around 125 mb of RAM at idle.

It's old and so not updateable, but may serve you pretty well for your intended use, and leaves you some breathing room on that 2 gig partition.

But one issue, it's a project, not a distro, so I made it English only and deleted almost all the translation files, so if you need it in another language it might not work for you.

Files are on sourceforge at the link in my signature line below.

#5 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Where are repository data files stored? » 2024-11-18 22:20:51

/var/lib/apt/lists = description of all available packages

/var/lib/dpkg/status  = description of all the packages currently installed

/var/cache/apt/ = has two binary files, pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin, if you delete these it will restore synaptic to a state where it's only showing installed packages instead of all available when next you open it.

When you update and/or install something new, some of these files will change.

/var/lib/dpkg/status is handy as you can (carefully) alter some things. I deleted a dependency in a program that demanded I install the Gnome icon set even though it truly didn't need them.

Ahh the beauty of Linux, still allowing me to flip the middle finger at Gnome after all these years. wink

#6 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Cups error AFTER successful print » 2024-11-18 21:39:54

Daedalus here, not having the issue you described, printer works great.

#7 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Appimage non functional as normal user » 2024-11-17 21:32:24

^^The above reply is how I do mine, never had an issue, but all i'm using it for are browsers. Perhaps it's program-specific? Have you tried other appimages?

Just downloaded a nightly and an esr version of Firefox yesterday, and both work fine.

#8 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Pluma bug and proposed fix: Where do I report, and what happens next? » 2024-11-17 21:28:06

Works in Daedulus here. And mine showing same thing as OP.

Never noticed that before, but I usually don't open files by opening pluma first, I just click on the file.

Luv me some Pluma, it's my favorite text-editor, I even use it in my Openbox installs.

#9 Re: Other Issues » ISBN number reader/scanner/database builder? » 2024-11-17 21:13:34

*slaps forehead*

Thanks guys, and especially stargate, I can't remember what search terms I was using that day but they were dumb, your much better search and the results got me a whole lotta great info!

Building a base system now for 'em and should be squashing it by tomorrow to go load, in contact with the state system now working on what's compatible with their system, and working on some grants for future improvements. And working on a basic site for 'em too.

So very soon we should have things up and running much better, community really needed this, so thanks again to ya'll. The new website will most definitely have a note that the Carthage city library is powered by Devuan. ;-)

#10 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Firefox 128.3.1esr *not* clearing history on closing » 2024-11-13 23:41:27

Yeah Chromium doesn't want to do it either.

It's kind of astounding the amount of temp files and cookies and other garbage that accumulates in just one day, usually 400+mb on my machine. Ridiculous, almost half a gig.

I run bleachbit at the end of the day before shutdown, it cleans that stuff up pretty good.

#11 Other Issues » ISBN number reader/scanner/database builder? » 2024-11-13 23:08:55

greenjeans
Replies: 8

Okay i'm not sure how to exactly articulate what i'm wanting, it may take multiple things, but let me present the problem and hopefully someone knows of a solution.

My wife has taken over librarian duties in our tiny town's tiny library, it's only open one day a week and only has probably a couple thousand books, but libraries are important and we have permission from the city council now to spend some time and money upgrading the place.

Currently it doesn't even have a working computer, just a bunch of old broken down windoze boxes that won't boot. I'm about to fix that with the help of Devuan in the next couple days now.

So, former librarian wasn't into the Dewey decimal system, nor even alphabetically organizing the books or even separating according to genre`. They are literally just loosely organized according to the date they were donated to library.

What we're hoping, is that some kind of program exists where she can scan or take a pic of the ISBN number of the book, the program then connects to ISBN database and basic details of the book and a short synopsis maybe are generated, which we can build into a searchable inventory/database of all the books.

Hope somebody knows something that might help, we are committed to looking everything up by hand and manually making the database if need be, was just hoping for a shortcut as even a few thousand volumes are gonna take quite a bit of time.

Thanks!
~greenjeans

#12 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2024-09-02 01:53:12

A chicken and an egg walked into a bar. The bartender asked, Which of you is first?

Unfortunately, the question is unanswered. 😜

ROTFL!

#14 Re: Devuan » Issues with the repo? » 2024-08-31 16:47:35

Nice, even this old machine i'm working on can handle that load, actually I have an old desktop I could re-purpose and leave online to both mirror releases and the repo.

May be a while as i'm still making house repairs while weather is nice, but when the snow hits i'll have plenty time.

#15 Re: Off-topic » How are you guys quoting posts? » 2024-08-31 16:44:22

To be clear: when/if interesting discussions emerge I would be keen to assist with improved platform software.

Well now you've piqued my interest Ralph, what would you consider an Interesting topic of discussion?

Shoes, ships, sealing wax? Cabbages and kings?

wink

#16 Off-topic » How are you guys quoting posts? » 2024-08-28 16:25:51

greenjeans
Replies: 30

I don't see the option to do so anywhere anymore. Or has my eyesight really gotten that bad?

#17 Re: Devuan » Issues with the repo? » 2024-08-28 16:22:37

That's cool, that's something I can do easily enough.

But that's for being a mirror for distro releases yes? I was talking about being a mirror for the repo, which I imagine is a whole larger kettle of fish.

#18 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2024-08-27 22:07:26

Shoot, I guess I could do a re-run, fix the little bugs I mentioned, and replace the browser with an imageapp. It's not like everything else on it doesn't work, it all works fine. I don't know that anybody would want to try it though. But it would be a good one to throw onto older hardware, it's so light on resource-usage.

I put a titanic amount of work into that thing, I have a really deep appreciation for all the developers out there that make Devuan and all it's derivatives, those guys are heroes to me.

#19 Re: Devuan » Issues with the repo? » 2024-08-27 22:01:49

Well, big question here if anybody can answer, what does it take to become a mirror? Like how much storage do you need, bandwidth/speed, is it within the realm of somebody doing it from a home-based server? I have no data caps on my home service, it runs 300 mbps up and down (though i'm only using 100 as all my machines and router are old with 10/100 NICs). Probably over my pay grade and not enough speed, but i'd give it a go at least.

Alternately I was thinking, it might be a cool thing my ISP could do, they have been amazing and they already do a good bit of community service projects, i'd be happy to approach them and ask about it, seems like something they could do without much effort, and i'd be happy to volunteer to help them with it if I could.

#20 Re: Installation » is the Devuan repository server usually slow or offline? » 2024-08-27 21:44:19

My pleasure ceesians! Thanks also to TAP who posted that handy mirror list link above, appreciate ya buddy!

That repo was actually really fast for me compared to deb.devuan.org.

#21 Re: Installation » does the Brave browser work here? » 2024-08-27 21:05:27

Thought i'd add a quickie tip:

Installed a little earlier, but when opening it gave me a message explaining keyring wasn't unlocked, and wanted a password, had to hit "cancel" to clear it and it popped up again, I canceled again and browser finally opened. But it would do this every time I opened it, found a simple solution on another forum.

Open your menu editor (I use mozo on MATE) and find your properties tab, then edit the opening command with this appended to it:

a space, then

--password-store=basic

That turned it off for me, current Daedalus.

#22 Re: Devuan » Issues with the repo? » 2024-08-27 20:55:39

Hi Altoid, nope, no connman, network manager.

I miss wicd. :-(

#23 Re: Devuan » Issues with the repo? » 2024-08-27 19:52:22

Got it to work today using different mirror:

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus main  

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-updates main 

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-security main 

I would mark it solved, but still doesn't answer my original question.

#24 Re: Installation » is the Devuan repository server usually slow or offline? » 2024-08-27 19:51:01

Okay, this worked:

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus main  

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-updates main 

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged daedalus-security main 

#25 Re: Installation » is the Devuan repository server usually slow or offline? » 2024-08-27 19:32:09

Same issue here. Worked a couple weeks ago but no joy last two days. Last time I had this issue I used the dev.beard.ly addresses mentioned above by TAP and they worked, then last update they wouldn't work so switched back to default and it worked. Guess i'll try the beardly thing again.

Tried, nope.

South Dakota here, Alliance fiber.

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