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@kaiyel: Amen, from another graybeard. I see no compelling reason to use anything else.
10-16-2026
Some 20 package updates including Chromium (max only). Also added FireMenu (also max only), a simple GUI frontend for sandboxing with firejail. Updated to the newest version of AlsaTune which adds a nice first-run to dialog to guide users in getting sound set up. Did a couple of mods to LXtask to improve the interface.
Big changes in PcmanFM, fixed a thumbnailing bug that goes all the way back to 2014 that trashed the size control in Preferences, caused improper thumbnail-caching, and random failures to thumbnail. This also means it's no longer necessary to run the thumbnail-cacher script at startup, thus freeing up some ram and cpu, everything works as it should now (Big thanks to SysVanon who made that happen!) Also fixed a small theming bug that affected some themes (including Ice-Breaker) which caused the divider between the treeview and the main pane to disappear when multiple tabs are open.
And I added a feature to the tooltips in icon-view, now in addition to the full file or folder name, it will also give the size of the file or the number of items in the underlying folder. I have increased the size of the panel and icons so it displays better on larger screens, and added a main menu button on the far left side of the panel, which will open the main menu when left-clicked, and a run dialog if you right-click. Fixed a couple of small bugs in the default theme and icon set, and many other small tweaks and improvements.
Very nice! Thank you for all your hard work on this, and welcome to Devuan!
tard wrangle a pure alsa setup
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I have to disagree though, I have actually gone to great lengths to make it easy for people, just made a new version of AlsaTune recently that adds a nice first-run dialog to make it easier for folks to get sound running.
The only hard part is getting rid of Pulse/Pipe to start with, they are dug in like Texas ticks, but once that's dealt with it's smooth sailing.
Ralph posted this:
Yet I don't see any hands raised for taking on the moderator responsibility; just the odd whining by rando's.
I'll throw my hat in the ring. My dance card is pretty full these days, but being a Devuan-user and a member of this forum for almost ten years now I feel a responsibility to help out as I always have. I have some qualifications having been a moderator on many forums and currently a moderator on the other forum mentioned in this thread. I don't feel much need to moderate most things as linux people are for the most part good folks, the only ban I have made recently was a spammer who registered and then proceeded to shotgun-post multiple links to commercial interests, some of them VERY un-savory. As far as contributions and loyalty towards Devuan, I think my record speaks for itself.
The few caveats and concerns I have are as follows:
1. I would like to see the time extended for a user to edit a post, frequently there are helpful threads that need to be updated due to new info, and it just makes sense for the original poster to edit the original post as opposed to making a whole new post with the new info.
2. I would like to propose that the timeout for auto-logout be extended somewhat, as there are many times users have tried to post some longer posts. especially in various "how-to" sections, and tried to submit only to be hit with that timeout.
3. I would like to see the quote-post function restored, eliminating it did not stop folks from quoting posts, but it did stop attributions for most people other than our friend Altoid who graciously goes the extra mile. I agree that people should use discretion, and try to only quote relevant snippets of longer posts.
4. I would like to see the hostility that's been displayed recently for folks who are making spins of Devuan and working on other projects cease. If we are to attract new developers this forum is usually the first point of contact. You attract more folks by being kindly and inviting than you do by berating them for working on their own projects rather than helping Devuan directly. Let's make a clear path for folks to contribute whether their contributions are accepted or not in the end.
I am here to help, Devuan calls for aid and Rohan will answer. ![]()
(Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with the independent alternative unofficial Devuan forum which isn't a Devuan forum, despite having "devuan" in the domain name).
That's not at all true, you are in fact a member of that forum since April of this year. With quite a lot of interesting posts. ![]()
their own playpen in which to thump their chests.
yeah..cause that's all we do...all the while sounding our barbaric yawps over the roofs of the world. ![]()
an alternative independent Devuan forum
Let's be clear here, Dev1galaxy is a support forum for Devuan, not mine or anybody else's spins or projects, and users can usually always find answers here.
Our forum was created to be a think-tank, to offer help and ideas to anyone who is an experimenter in numerous distros of all kinds. There is no animosity between us and this forum, quite the opposite, most of us actively use Devuan and appreciate the work that goes into it very much, and are actively developing solutions to upstream issues that plague us all, which might be of benefit to Devuan and the whole of the Linux community. You can see many of the projects we are working on at git.devuan.org where we freely share them in the hope that they might be useful.
The things and topics we discuss over there, would just clog up this forum with a lot of extra noise and would degrade the quality of tech support that is provided here.
I posted some thoughts in this thread: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=66038#p66038
But one thing I forgot to mention, been working with Devuan-Mate + Xlibre since last year, and only issues I had were that it didn't want to play nice with compositors on my old hardware, and secondly they've dropped some packages for older AMD hardware (mostly pre-2010 stuff).
The Compiz/MATE choice is highly intentional. It's a clearly superior interface to all other DEs. And it's old, stable, and fast.
I would agree with this for the most part, have done a lot of work with it over the years, it does have some issues here and there though. Keep an eye on ~/.xsession-errors as occasionally Caja takes great exception to certain themes and will spam you to death about it.
Suggestions:
IMO the right-click extensions for Caja shouldn't be in separate packages, they should just be native.
The screenshot tool throws up like a 10 pixel border around the shot when trying to grab just a single window, yuck.
The set-as-wallpaper extension works, but it throws whatever you selected up there using the same style as the previous one had (i.e. zoom, center, stretch etc.), which in many cases is the wrong style, frequently users will use an image that's much larger or much smaller than the screen, so they wind up and have to open the settings-manager and go to the wallpaper tab anyway.
There's a couple ways to do this better, in my stuff the extension first copies the image to the wallpapers folder, then opens the wallpaper manager to set it and apply a style. Bonus there: If someone sets the paper from an arbitrary location, then later moves that image, it blanks the desktop, this way that can't happen.
You could also just have that extension open up a specific tiny dialog before applying, that asks the user to set the style.
I do agree with golinux that flatpaks are not much loved around here, myself included. Nor snaps. And if you're looking for stable deployment for customers it would seem that blithely encouraging them to download whatever from flathub or whatever flats repo, is a recipe for heartache.
Good luck and welcome to Devuan! ![]()
is there any way to get rid of overlay scrollbars on GTK4 apps too?
I don't know if scrollbars are included and haven't had time to test, but there's a guy doing some nice work on dealing with CSD in gtk4 and libhandy, may possibly be of some use to you:
https://codeberg.org/MorsMortium/GTK-NoCSD
It's still discrimination, it may be the popular thing to do these days, but it is illegal in most countries. The old standard was simple, if two equally qualified individuals applied for a job, the one who applied first got the job.
Can refractasnapshot be used in conjunction with the Calamares installer?
Certainly! Some folks have already done so I believe including Fsmithred. Snapshot and Installer are two different apps, neither one depending on the other.
This is the old GB vs GiB problem.
Yep.
The GB (Gigabyte) is decimal system and equals 1,000,000,000 bytes. The GiB (Gibibyte) is binary system and equals 1,073,741,824 bytes.
Look close Altoid : 7.8 GB, 7.2 GiB
Hi, I highly recommend Fsmithred's suggestion to use Refracta-Snapshot and Refracta-Installer to make your own iso(s), have used this method for 10 years now, very easy to use and you can really fine-tune the system for the language support you want, and all other aspects including additional hardware support if you need it. Good luck!
I had hoped to try this program. It looks excellent. I'm not sure what happened. I hope you are okay.
Thanks,
Vanessa
Alive and well and under constant development in addition to many new apps: https://gitlab.com/liquibyte/gamut
So Debian really has removed this important functionality from GIMP?
This is my surprised face: ![]()
I find myself somewhat flabbergasted that for once I am in total agreement with Igor.
I agree with the above statement completely, it's a good concise summation of the state of the state with a nice easy-to-understand analogy at the end.
The question is: What do we do about it?
For me personally it seems clear, fork all the things, all of them. As i've stated many times, in Linux you either make do, or you make new. I'm working on making new.
Refracta-Snapshot is your friend, it will snapshot your entire system as it is now, and make you an iso file you can burn to DVD or USB and install on your other machine with Refracta-Installer. During the install process you of course will be able to change the username and passwords for the new install. Both apps are in the repo. ![]()
Srsly, some of you are using google for things?
New Alsatune uploaded.
Version 3.3-1 adds to the wrapper script first-run setup to make sure you have the current working soundcard selected in .asoundrc before AlsaTune opens for the first time, a handy GUI window opens with buttons activating the same "Test Tone" and "Soundcard" functions found in the main GUI for you to select and test, and also a "Volumeicon" button to reload the volumeicon applet (used in Vuu-do and some other Openbox distros) after making changes. And lastly a "Done" button to use after all changes have been made, that writes a marker file in ~/.local/share/alsatune to let the wrapper know first-run has already been done so no need for the setup GUI in the future, and then opens AlsaTune for you.
Thanks for that link @Altoid, I hope he's still around somewhere. His avatar used to be a cartoon chicken tapping on keys, I was raising chickens at the time and I had a lil banty rooster that looked a lot like his avatar, so I named him "OP junior" and posted pics frequently and he enjoyed that.
Openbox. I'm one of the last few faithful of the old #! crew, Miyolinux built an amazing version of Devuan using Openbox back in the day and it just knocked my socks off, I had to make my own spin after that. Been using it ever since almost 10 years now and it's still solid and stable and fast, a real credit to the work of Devuan to preserve these legacy systems.
I don't know about a proper way, but on a single-user system i've always just used su. I have right-click extensions to edit a file as root, or to open a directory as root if I need to move some files around.
As far as the changes to sudo, what systems would make /usr/local/ writeable for a non-root user? That seems silly.
@Altoid that link was a blast from the past, I remember when Old Polack wrote it, PCLOS was really popular at the time and there had been a steady influx of new users posting "where's muh sudo?". OP was a brilliant guy, don't know if he's still around but I learned a lot from him.
Wait, some of you are still using sudo?