rolfie . . . I think the Devuan live installer uses Simple Distro Kit which is a Dyne thing.

Congrats!

We experience the external world as a reflection of who and what we are. Not all our users are as grumpy, hostile and insulting as some who have been posting recently:

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=58675#p58675

We have always consulted very different crystal balls.  At least you get credit for qualifying and hedging your "conclusion" . . .

Hey greenjeans . . . We go back even further than that. Remember the rebel Debian forum created around the time of the rigged Resolution vote that changed the course of Debian forever?

You have always done your thing to provide your local community and other De***n  users with your alternative re-spin Vu-Doo. I know what a re-spin is because I use Refracta myself. Sometimes, you might find a bug but afaik are not contributing to or maintaining critical chunks of Devuan infrastructure itself. You scratch your own itch. I know that well because I scratched my itch to give Devuan an integrated visual identity to all of its user-facing content. But - and please correct me if I'm wrong - neither of those Devuan derivatives would survive for long if Devuan ceased to exist.

Currently too many critical tasks are SPOF due to lack of developer redundancy so I really don't get why we are  expanding options to distract users from focusing on essentials. Seems a bit like "fiddling while Rome burns" . . .

@steve_v . . . You never miss an opportunity do you. LOL!

For those who might not know, I will list a few of my contributions to the Devuan project. Visually, Devuan would be a completely different animal without my input. This very forum would never have been created. Neither would the Devuan logo or the customized default desktops for Jessie through Daedalus. The current minimal forum layout was also my doing. It has been an honor to have created and unified Devuan's visual identity and messaging that so many have appreciated. Many thanks to all the wonderful Devuan users that have passed through and also left their mark on Devuan over the years.

@EDX-0 . . . I had no idea things had gotten that bad in EU. I had the privilege of riding the wave of optimism and belief in education and progress following WWII. Accelerated classes. Amazing field-trips. After-school lectures from scientists on the cutting edge of research. Affordable higher education and all that went with that.

I never wanted a computer. Someone had to buy one for me. It was fun for a while and I used it to fight successfully to stop several unwanted local projects etc. and of course Devuan (even before it existed). Then dealing with the machine started becoming not fun anymore . . . always chasing my tail having to constantly relearn how the damn thing works. Having the machine dictate my life is not living . . . it is servitude!

This is not a bad idea but . . .

Devuan does not need more diversification. It needs more hands on deck to take care of the essentials that are required. Currently, there is little or no redundancy to maintain those essential tasks and the new ones that keep popping up. Better use of your talents would be to join the team rather than to scratch your own itch.

Thanks for your offer, mamaforestcritter . . .

You are welcome to make your wallpapers available to devuan users. Perhaps you could start a thread on this forum, maybe in DIY.

If you are more ambitious, I will point you to where the default desktop theming is kept in our git:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … t/graphics

If you have an interest, this is the official guide to theming the default desktop. Note that it might not be viable with newer GTK and other Debian "defacements":

https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … -devuan.md

That might give you some ideas . . .

PS. I am also a "forest critter" of sorts . . .

GNOME is the poison that kills freedom. Full stop!

How Wagnerian!

I also had a brief go'round with vivaldi many years ago. Kicked it to the curb when I learned more about it.