Do you have apulse installed? That was the magic - at least 10 years ago - to get rid of pulseaudio. Seems it is still in the repos:

https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/poli … e&x=submit

Eeqmcsq . . . Are you aware that there are other sets of icons and themes for all the past Devuan releases? The themes might not work with the new GTK "improvements" but the icons should be OK.

https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … t/graphics

Perhaps because Ondine is whimsical and unpredictable?
Seong-Jin Cho - Ravel: Gaspard de la Nuit: I. Ondine (Live from Carnegie Hall)

Sorry . . . couldn't resist . . .

Just have to share this one because it was so colorful and tasty!

Top: Green beans with sauteed almonds and scallions

Bottom: Russet potatoes, carrots, cauliflower, rutabaga, leeks on a bed of brown rice with a touch of barley and hato mugi (special Japanese type of barley).

These days my main oils are coconut and olive.

Everything organic except for the rutabaga . . .

And you have the right to your opinion even though it is not aligned with reality. Excess and lack of ability to moderate behavior is the problem.

And LeePen has even submitted a patch for seatd!

I am so sorry your thinking is so scrambled. That nonsense will be the end of this fruitless conversation with I am not sure who or what . . .

Remember that the teaching only points the way . . . I have answered to the best of my ability. I cannot bestow that knowledge on anyone else. We can only take that journey for ourselves.

Perhaps this anecdote will put things into perspective . . . I once asked an old monk why it is so difficult to understand the teachings. He replied that only one or two out of a hundred who attempted would have the ability to do so.

golinux goes off to the sensory delight of strawberries and coconut milk!

I have always trusted my sensory receptors. They have never failed me. It is the spinning out of the mind AFTER the sensory perception (which only lasts a nanosecond) that is the problem.

And "obsessive attachment" is the problem. The avalanche CAN be stopped but requires focused and sustained effort.

Just try to imagine the relief of not having that constant chatter screaming in your head but only being in and observing the ever-changing kaleidoscope of present phenomena. It is a choice between fiction or reality . . .

That conclusion was realized in India over 2500 years ago. And yes, spinning out in discursive thinking is the problem and being present in a non-judgmental way in the present is the solution.

Have you seen this?

https://stoppromotingwayland.netlify.app/

Thankfully, xorg still lives and has been forked.