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#1 Re: Freedom Hacks » package usbmuxd - used for IPhone Tethering » 2020-08-07 05:14:36

@Vernon . . . for suggesting this most excellent forum topic and being the first thread maker, you have been awarded a virtual golden elephant fridge magnet!!!

(confetti swirls down on Vernon's head as forum members applaud)  big_smile

#2 Re: Devuan » setnet.sh script depreciated? » 2020-08-07 02:33:40

czeekaj wrote:

I've noticed the setnet.sh script has depreciated in beowulf. which came standard in ASCII. However is there a reason it was not carried over?

KatolaZ has moved from Linux to BSD so that script is now unmaintained.  Someone else is free to pick it up if they like.  It may also be perfectly fine to use it in Beowulf.  Hopefully someone can advise on that.

#3 Re: Freedom Hacks » package network-manager » 2020-08-07 01:49:42

Vernon . . . are these posts elsewhere on the forum?  Let me know if anything needs to be moved.

#4 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] downloading .deb files for obscure packages (dahdi*) » 2020-08-06 22:08:45

This would be the correct line for sources.list:
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf contrib main non-free

#5 Re: Forum Feedback » New Forum Category Suggestion - Devuan systemd dependency workarounds » 2020-08-02 23:57:38

GlennW . . . Devuan Freedom Hacks . . . Hmmm . . .  I like that but think that maybe It doesn't need "Devuan".  How about this for the index page?? 

Freedom Hacks
Explore workarounds to reverse/repair unwanted upstream decisions

#6 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » LibPAM-TMPDIR Causes VeraCrypt Mounting Problems » 2020-08-02 15:15:17

Done. brocashelm . . . you might want to change the subject to better describe your issue.

#7 Re: Forum Feedback » New Forum Category Suggestion - Devuan systemd dependency workarounds » 2020-08-02 15:11:10

I personally would like to give an indication as to why those hacks are needed. There are plenty of hacks but this section will focus on those thrust upon us by upstream decisions.

#8 Re: Forum Feedback » New Forum Category Suggestion - Devuan systemd dependency workarounds » 2020-08-02 02:43:30

catprints wrote:

How about just "Triage"? (Rather than init triage)

I thought of that too but IMO it is too general.  Perhaps it could be clarified in the forum description, something like this:

Triage
Explore workarounds to fix unwanted upstream decisions

Maybe that's getting closer?

#10 Re: Forum Feedback » New Forum Category Suggestion - Devuan systemd dependency workarounds » 2020-08-01 21:09:07

Marjorie wrote:

Init Freedom Hacks?

Unfortunately, if we want to include other poettering elephants like pulseaudio for discussion, it can't be limited to init.  Maybe just "Freedom Hacks"?

#11 Re: Forum Feedback » New Forum Category Suggestion - Devuan systemd dependency workarounds » 2020-07-31 17:57:47

Thanks for the ideas. Now let's go deeper . . .  IMO, "FOSS" is too general and philosophical. Also it's about more than systemd.  I see it being about unnecessary "complification", removal of working options and core structure just because.  What ever happened to "KISS" and "if it works, don't fix it".  Please keep trying.  We also will need a very short description of what the new category will encompass.

EDIT: Also FOSS is a non-starter because systemd passes the test technically if not in spirit.

#12 Re: Forum Feedback » New Forum Category Suggestion - Devuan systemd dependency workarounds » 2020-07-31 02:52:31

Vernon wrote:

There are workarounds to Devuan systemd dependencies scattered around this board. It would be nice if they were all in one place so they could be easily found. I suggest a new forum category, Devuan systemd dependency workarounds which should only contain solutions to Devuan systemd dependencies.

Thanks for suggesting this.  Your proposal was discussed today at our weekly meet and we think it would be useful.  Problem is that we need a shorter name.  Suggestions welcome.
- Init Triage
- Regaining Control

Vernon wrote:

When someone finds a solution to a Devuan systemd dependency, the solution could be cross posted to  Devuan systemd dependency workarounds by the person who found the workaround or anyone else.  Similar posts could be made for pulseaudio and networkmanager at least.

Or threads/posts could just be moved.

Vernon wrote:

I suggest that this category be moderated to reduce cruft. Any post not related to a  systemd workarounds gets moved to another category.

Sometimes threads are moved or split but content is kept intact.  We have an aversion to rewriting history.  wink

#13 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2020-07-30 06:52:01

Been growing with and grooving on this since the mid-70s:

Music for 18 Musicians

It's takes them about 3 minutes to settle in but after that it is heaven.

Minimalism rules!

#15 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » xfce4-alsa-plugin now available for Debian-based systems (0.3.0-2) » 2020-07-30 04:13:45

@jobbautista9 . . . Thank you for taking the initiative to do that.  smile

#16 Re: Other Issues » I want delete this account ! » 2020-07-30 02:19:16

I have deleted users who have never posted at their request.  But wouldn't delete a user who has a history of posts.

#17 Re: Installation » backports » 2020-07-29 22:33:48

Note that a user would only want to install specific packages from backports if needed.  Updating everything in backports could create unpleasant, unintended consequences.

#18 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » xfce4-alsa-plugin now available for Debian-based systems (0.3.0-2) » 2020-07-29 04:36:26

jobbautista9 wrote:

I hope Devuan fork this package and add the necessary init scripts. It's really annoying when you install a package just for it to not work afterwards, and you're forced to find a workaround yourself.

You could start by submitting the patch to Debian.  If that fails, you are welcome to maintain it long-term for Devuan.  smile

#19 Re: Documentation » HOWTO: Install the best screen magnifier - xlupe » 2020-07-27 20:15:46

Vernon wrote:

Yes smile. For example, xlupe has a nice slider bar to easily change magnifications.

Isn't that what the scroll wheel is for?  Why go fumbling about for a slider . . .

#20 Re: Installation » Interested in installing devuan, couple questions before I do » 2020-07-25 16:01:36

RJVB wrote:

Was it your intention to link to the generic Debian wiki landing page (on which I didn't see a DontBreakDebian section)? smile

Of course not.  I fixed it.

#21 Re: Installation » Interested in installing devuan, couple questions before I do » 2020-07-24 22:45:08

Use PPAs with Debian or Devuan at your own risk.  Please take DontBreakDebian to heart.  Also read this page on the Devuan website.

edit: corrected incomplete link

#22 Re: Installation » kali to devuan » 2020-07-24 17:44:16

Posts about Kali are not even answered on the Debian forum because Kali is not Debian.  Devuan is even further away from Debian.  Did you try searching for "kali" on this forum?  There are some mentions here and there which could possibly be useful to you.  FYI, ParrotSec OS is building a version on Devuan so there may be some pointers if you check that out.

#23 Re: Other Issues » InRelease, Release, and Release.gpg files need updating » 2020-07-21 06:58:37

amprolla was misbehaving but I haven't seen any discussion about it being fixed.  It is summer after all . . .

#24 Re: Other Issues » Update not possible because of repository problem » 2020-07-21 01:24:39

Happy to hear that.  It's a good idea to read the release notes because there are always a few "gotchas" with each new release.

#25 Re: Other Issues » Update not possible because of repository problem » 2020-07-20 22:33:20

From the beowulf release notes:

If you are already on Beowulf, just run this command to get to the
current release version:

  apt update && apt dist-upgrade

The first time you do this after Beowulf has gone Stable, you will get
a warning that the repository changed its 'Suite' value from 'testing'
to 'stable'. Answer 'yes' to proceed. Note that aptitude or apt-get will
fail this first time. Only apt will ask you to accept the change.

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