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I don't really trust any of the equipment I use. It's essential for me nonetheless.
And we stupidily and willingly followed the breadcrumbs because we were so entranced by all the toys . . .
I think using AI is essential . . .
I beg to disagree. The "essentials" are food, water, air and hopefully shelter. All the toys we play with are just the products of churning, deluded minds. And what a mess we make of it!
@mweishaar . . . No need to apologize or to have deleted your post. You just wanted to share. Happy to hear you like "deathmetal". Keep fingers crossed that it might yet be available some day.
I have no idea why Ceres stopped working, it might be because my internet provider is BT in the UK.
LOL! Maybe it is because Ceres is "unstable" and always in flux until it is officially released as "stable"?
Devuan theming has never been random art work. I always saw it as a reflection of the release name. I am going to post here links to my introductions to the themes for several Devuan releases. The colors are well thought out to reflect the chosen name of each release:
1. Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme)
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2646
2. Meet Chimaera's deepsea theme:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3896
My inspiration was the deepsea chimaera: https://dev1galaxy.org/files/chimaera2.jpg
3. Meet the Daedalus sapphire theme
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4885
4. The unfinished Excalibur "deathmetal" theme color palette is here:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … rge-M2.svg
It is an anti-war statement named "deathmetal". It combines the dark metal of a medieval sword (I looked at a LOT of them) with a tinge of "gangrene" which is a possible result to the victim. The green tint is also an oblique reference to the matrix proving that humans never seem learn.
PS. The signature layout for the theme is non-negotiable.
Hey, mweishaar . . . That's really cute but how does it relate to Excalibur or Freia? It is also only about 1% of what is needed to theme a Devuan release. Theming is a very deep dive. It always took me several months to get a theme together because there are so many parts that need to be integrated. Do have a look at this to get oriented. Note that I have not touched any of this for several years so there will likely be a lot of debugging to get things to work with the current GTK etc :
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … -devuan.md
IIRC we decided to "freeze" the theming change per release for www and other online sites but all the other parts need to be integrated with the current theme.
Great! Let's see what you can do about bringing Devuan theming back to life. Enjoy the ride!
@ruenoak . . .
There are many moving parts and revisions upstream may require fiddling to accommodate new GTK etc. so be prepared to take a deep dive. You can find the theming instructions here:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … -devuan.md
FYI . . . I always tried to create a color palette that reflected the name of the release. For Excalibur that was "deathmetal" (referring to King Arthur's sword). It is very subtle so look at it full screen:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … rge-M2.svg
Feel free to use it or forge a new path . . .
@mweishaar . . .
No one has stepped up to do the theming since I "retired" from that task some years ago but all the old themes are still available and include a grub screen:
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … t/graphics
Take your pick!
Note that due to "improvements" upstream, they may or may not continue to be viable.
Have you ever considered that greenjeans might be making those decisions in order to best serve his local community of aging, non-techie neighbors that often only have access to older, sub-par hardware? Or community service at his local Library to provide public internet access? Didn't think so. Service to others is so not your forte . . .
@einpoklum . . . Yes, something is amiss there. I am getting a JavaScript error but if I click on the error, it goes away and I can select the item I want. Rinse and repeat to view each new page. The fix is beyond my pay-grade. I'll try to find someone to do it.
Note that I stopped providing the theming after Daedalus. I tried to find someone to continue with Excalibur. I even named the theme "DeathMetal" and had a color palette worked out but no takers to fully develop the theme. And with the changes upstream, I have doubts that the old themes will work or that the detailed How-To would be viable.
No. It was split off and moved to "Favorite Games" on OT and I forgot to leave a message pointing to it:
It is the word "camel", or any other word for that matter, that is the problem. We assign words to objects but the words are not and never will be those objects. IOW we live in a "world" of abstract thoughts that weave a "fantasy" that has little to do with reality and ironically keeps us on a never-ending treadmill of more of the same . . ..
rolfie . . . I think the Devuan live installer uses Simple Distro Kit which is a Dyne thing.
Thanks for doing that.
FYI . . . the wiki seems to be a perpetual WIP. There have been several failed attempts along the way. AFAIK the current version has not been "officially" integrated with our other documentation. I stopped keeping track of it years ago . . .
Congrats!
Oh cynwulf . . . Same tactics trying to foment rebellion that you used @debian years ago. Please take it elsewhere. I would not want to do it but maybe it's time to lock this chaotic thread as it has gone completely off the rails. Apologies to exponentialmatrix for behavior of external agitators . . .
We experience the external world as a reflection of who and what we are. Not all our users are as grumpy, hostile and insulting as some who have been posting recently:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=58675#p58675
What stands out most to me personally is the Devuan project team and this community. In Peppermint, we dabble in different base operating systems, we reach out to their maintainers, asking about build tools, getting a feel of what’s involved. Out of all those experiences, the Devuan community has been by far the most open, helpful, and approachable group we’ve encountered at the core OS level.
From guidance on branding and ISO compilation tools to troubleshooting fsroot issues, everyone here has been incredibly generous with their time and help.
Honestly, other communities can be gatekeepers, toxic, or just plain mean… but the Devuan folks are a breath of fresh air.
@exponentialmatrix . . . Have you not seen "The dev1galaxy.org (almost) No Code of Conduct"?
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=17
That is the core ethos of this amazing distro and as you can see we are extremely tolerant of the BS that gets thrown at us. That does not however mean that we do not have limits. In fact . . . steve_v had a nice "time out" not that long ago. ![]()
Had said incident not happened, he would have likely contributed directly to the releases of Daedalus and now Excalibur, as well as the next testing version Freia.
We have always consulted very different crystal balls. At least you get credit for qualifying and hedging your "conclusion" . . .
HA! You just gave me an opportunity to fire up my image blocker. A bit annoying but thankfully doable. ![]()
Wow, don't know what I did to deserve that after 10 years with Devuan. sad
Hey greenjeans . . . We go back even further than that. Remember the rebel Debian forum created around the time of the rigged Resolution vote that changed the course of Debian forever? ![]()
You have always done your thing to provide your local community and other De***n users with your alternative re-spin Vu-Doo. I know what a re-spin is because I use Refracta myself. Sometimes, you might find a bug but afaik are not contributing to or maintaining critical chunks of Devuan infrastructure itself. You scratch your own itch. I know that well because I scratched my itch to give Devuan an integrated visual identity to all of its user-facing content. But - and please correct me if I'm wrong - neither of those Devuan derivatives would survive for long if Devuan ceased to exist.
Currently too many critical tasks are SPOF due to lack of developer redundancy so I really don't get why we are expanding options to distract users from focusing on essentials. Seems a bit like "fiddling while Rome burns" . . .
Epic fail . . .
@steve_v . . . You never miss an opportunity do you. LOL!
For those who might not know, I will list a few of my contributions to the Devuan project. Visually, Devuan would be a completely different animal without my input. This very forum would never have been created. Neither would the Devuan logo or the customized default desktops for Jessie through Daedalus. The current minimal forum layout was also my doing. It has been an honor to have created and unified Devuan's visual identity and messaging that so many have appreciated. Many thanks to all the wonderful Devuan users that have passed through and also left their mark on Devuan over the years.
Pooh...I say we break some s**t including new ground and let creativity loose.
Have you ever contributed any code directly to Devuan? Please remind me.
If lack of needed hands-on begins to negatively impact Devuan's viability, you could just pick up your Vuu-do marbles and move to another base . . .
Obviously, I am in a mood . . .