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#1 2017-10-01 12:29:13

sgage
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When is Amprolla3 coming?

I've heard Amprolla3 mentioned here and there, on IRC, etc., but never any hint as to when it might be "turned on". I reckon the answer is probably something like "when it's ready" :-)  But I am really looking forward to seeing Ascii start moving. On my (rather non-challenging) hardware it seems quite solid, but there have been no updates in a long long time, and I wonder about security.

Anyway, can we expect to see updates/security-updates in Ascii soon? Days? Weeks? Months?

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#2 2017-10-01 15:54:35

golinux
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

Those are the elephants in the room, aren't they . . .

Unfortunately, no crystal ball here.

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#3 2017-10-01 23:11:46

sgage
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

golinux wrote:

Those are the elephants in the room, aren't they . . .

Unfortunately, no crystal ball here.

In the words of the immortal Magic 8-Ball:

"Outlook hazy. Ask again later."

Ascii is gonna be great. Well, it's already pretty darn good, but once it gets rolling...

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#4 2017-10-02 11:16:55

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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

Make sure you have ascii-proposed-updates enabled in sources.list. Some of the security updates can be found there.

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#5 2017-10-02 12:16:26

sgage
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

fsmithred wrote:

Make sure you have ascii-proposed-updates enabled in sources.list. Some of the security updates can be found there.

Thanks for the tip. I just enabled it, updated, got:

The following packages will be upgraded:
  firefox-esr libmariadbclient18 whois

That's about it. Should I leave it enabled, or are there potential problems?

Say, you wouldn't happen to know the status of Amprolla3, would you? I think golinux wants to know ;-)

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#6 2017-10-02 14:54:36

golinux
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

@sgage . . . Pretty much all of us lowly forum dwellers are in the dark

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#7 2017-10-02 21:35:20

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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

Maybe soon, for real. I already know that amprolla3 works, because I tried it when it was on a test server. And I noticed today in #devuan-dev that a new devuan-keyring was being built. This is all just circumstantial evidence, but I'm hopeful.

I'm not aware of any problems with leaving ascii-proposed-updates enabled.

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#8 2017-10-02 22:58:02

sgage
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

fsmithred wrote:

Maybe soon, for real. I already know that amprolla3 works, because I tried it when it was on a test server. And I noticed today in #devuan-dev that a new devuan-keyring was being built. This is all just circumstantial evidence, but I'm hopeful.

I'm not aware of any problems with leaving ascii-proposed-updates enabled.

Thanks for the news, and your insights!

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#9 2017-10-02 23:16:03

golinux
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

@golinux was a squeaky wheel earlier today . . . every so often it works.  wink

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#10 2017-10-03 01:04:08

sgage
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

golinux wrote:

@golinux was a squeaky wheel earlier today . . . every so often it works.  wink

smile   

Just happy to know that progress is being made!

*squeak*

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#11 2017-10-07 18:12:49

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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

fsmithred wrote:

Make sure you have ascii-proposed-updates enabled in sources.list. Some of the security updates can be found there.

That wasn't part of my sources.list, so I manually added it and hope I got it right. tongue  I received no updates after adding it, but my install is fairly new.

Can someone give us the necessary sources.list for Ascii (that includes such as that) so that we can be assured of receiving all updates?


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#12 2017-10-07 20:50:06

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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

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#13 2017-10-07 21:50:11

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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

Thank you ma'am. I had already looked there and have those sources that are given. Unless I've overlooked it, the...

ascii-proposed-updates

...source isn't given there. That's the only reason I was asking...in case there's a source (or sources) that I'm missing. smile


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#14 2017-10-07 22:01:27

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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

OK.  Check out these discussions on #devuan.  Maybe they will help clear things up.

https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/searc … i-proposed

https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/searc … ed-updates

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#15 2017-10-07 22:11:40

MiyoLinux
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

golinux wrote:

OK.  Check out these discussions on #devuan.  Maybe they will help clear things up.

https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/searc … i-proposed

https://botbot.me/freenode/devuan/searc … ed-updates

Ahhh...

golinux, please forgive me. It never occurred to me that I should check the chat logs. You have my utmost gratitude and most sincere apology for the trouble you went through. Thank you.


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#16 2017-10-07 22:35:05

golinux
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

No apology needed.  The #devuan logs are an excellent resource.  It's always good to remind folks.

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#17 2017-10-10 11:44:17

sgage
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

I've been away from computers for a few days (I recommend it - ahhh!!!). Anyway, I fired up Ascii this morning, and found 100 packages ready for upgrade! Things seem to be starting to roll in Ascii-land...

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#18 Today 03:42:49

fsmithred
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

To answer your original question (the subject line of this thread)...

  NOW!

amprolla3 works for ascii. We need to know if it still works when more than a few people hit on it at once.

To use amprolla3 in ascii, change 'auto.mirror.devuan.org' to 'pkgmaster.devuan.org'
(for jessie, keep using auto.mirror)

You'll need the updated keyring:

apt-get update
apt-get install devuan-keyring

Edit /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii main contrib non-free
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-proposed-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-security main contrib non-free
apt-get update

Now you're ready to install or upgrade ascii using amprolla3. Merges are done every 2 minutes, so we shouldn't be lagging behind debian.

You should be able to use the above sources for an upgrade from jessie to ascii.
Also, rsyslog has been fixed, so you don't have to substitute it with a different syslogger and debootstrap will work.

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#19 Today 10:54:00

nixer
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

I may be getting a little ahead of myself but, will this work for a ceres install if I change the release name from ascii to ceres in the sources.list file?  For example, can I use this ?

deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ceres main contrib non-free

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#20 Today 12:24:28

sgage
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

Thanks for the news, fsmithred! It seems to be working fine here...

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#21 Today 12:36:43

fsmithred
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

UPDATE: AMPROLLA3 WILL BE DOWN PART OF TODAY FOR MORE WORK. WAIT!

I might have to revise the source lines I posted above. There are a couple in /devuan that aren't in /merged.

https works on pkgmaster, so you can use apt-transport-https if you want

you can use amrolla3 for jessie.

stick with codenames to avoid confusion - use jessie/ascii/ceres rather than stable/testing/unstable - we need to get in sync with debian, where jessie is oldstable.

I'll revise this again later today or tomorrow.

And I'll fix the typo above - should be "devuan-keyring" not "devuan keyring".

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#22 Today 15:12:42

fsmithred
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Re: When is Amprolla3 coming?

It's up again. Note that I posted all of this in advance of the official announcement. So this is not the final word. That's part of why it's here instead of in Announcements. That will come.

The other two repos that I mentioned above are ascii-proposed and ascii-proposed-security. They are in /devuan, not /merged. I believe their purpose is for packages in devuan that don't come from debian. I haven't tried them yet.

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