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exponentialmatrix

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Registered: 2025-11-04

Posts: 39  

Re: Proposal "Devuan User Repository"

speaking of pessimism. We are going through the human equivalent of the "mouse utopia experiment". Depending on your politics, you'll explain it differently. The important part is that it can't be stopped and it's irreversible. You can see it repeat through out history and no on ever solves it.

About the subject. They are several reason to do this. And having the official logo on it is a plus.

1. It can be used to groom future maintainers.

2. You can put there lesser quality packages, for whatever reason. Instead of having crappy private packages, you can dump them there for others to use.

3. New packages can be pumped from there.

4. Tech news will talk about it. Should see a spike of interest

5. The official endorsement is important. It should be part of the distro.

6. The new source format is important. Auditing is easier and lowers the barrier to entry.

7. The biggest selling point of Arch, is the AUR.

8. Can try and do an embrace, extend and extinguish on debian. Debian is decaying, we need a post debian plan.

9. That Arch and the AUR exists is an institutional failure of Debian.

10. The AUR is a resounding sucess, You can't pretend that it's irrelevent even if personally don't care.

pcalvert

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Registered: 2017-05-15

Posts: 296  

Re: Proposal "Devuan User Repository"

The DUR will only have the recipes. A user would need to build the package themselves with the recipes. The built packages will not be added to the main archive. Security will be on the users.

In that case, perhaps this could be hosted on something like GitHub or GitLab? That way, you don't need anyone's "permission" to do it. You simply do it, and whoever wants to use it can use it.

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ralph.ronnquist

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From: Battery Point, Tasmania, AUS

Registered: 2016-11-30

Posts: 1,576  

Re: Proposal "Devuan User Repository"

It may be less than known and understood, but in fact almost anyone may register at git.devuan.org and use it as repository for their public projects. If it's aimed at sharing, then documentation is essential.

When you have a binary package to publish you may drop in at #devuan-dev (at libera.chat) to discuss how that may happen; although first and foremost of course you'd publish your package to Debian. Though in some cases it may be warranted to have a trial publishing at Devuan/experimental.

tux_99

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Registered: 2025-06-17

Posts: 99  

Re: Proposal "Devuan User Repository"

@exponentialmatrix ralph.ronnquist suggestion seems sensible, proceed step by step, DUR requires 'easydeb', so first get 'easydeb' into Devuan, that way the fundamental requirement is available in the Devuan repos, after that it's only a matter of making the DUR repo an official part of Devuan.

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