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#1 2017-03-25 00:10:43

miroR
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Discussion about heads

golinux wrote:

@miroR . . . Are you aware that heads is in the Devuan pipeline?  It's intended as a live CD but I'm sure there are some out there who will play with installing it.  Look for release announcements in the coming months.

heads is a GNU/Linux liveCD distribution aimed at people who like the aspect of controlling their privacy and anonymity on the Internet. You might have heard of Tails as a similar GNU/Linux distribution. heads was born as an answer to Tails, since Tails is using systemd as an init system and also contains non-free software.

I remember checking up if you replied, can't swear it, very possibly didn't update the page properly, or mixed something up, but it remained in my memory there wasn't your reply when I checked...
Anyway, sorry, really sorry for replying this late!
I was told as Whonix Forums by anonymous, maybe a fortnight ago, about Heads, and I tried it, and very much liked it! Very much!
The ML page a little slow right now to appear (I was for hours out with Heads today, and long online could be the reason, system possibly even gets a little infected, lots of network dirt online...)... [A little slow right now to appear]:
https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/m … info/heads
But this is my mail on the web:
Re: [heads] dead link to heads ML archives
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … e3.en.html
And I'm pretty saddened that Heads has had to go to github. Big-business is not such great place... They have Akamai[1] giving them preference, they'll always be fast, and they have the Schmoog (y'know, Schmog the Schmoogle, the spies of the world, and on the whole world; well, at least all world spy agencies' friends, yes they are!) as important partner...
The above paragraph is as per:
[heads] heads repositories migration
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 31.en.html
I don't know what the full reasoning was, what the full causality to that migration is, but I hope it can be mended and Devuan, in its derivatives, not having to be associated/dependable on big business. BTW, there can be more moral big business, and I don't claim complete rejection of any mentioned above... but... they are very suspicious, some more, some less... Moral big businesses a few there appear to be, but I don't think it's them![2]. In other words, we will continue to be up against the (basically) few powerful who crave to control us... But a separate topic should be opened for that, and time found to discuss (I mean there are ways of defenses, I'm sure there are!)...
I'm planning on making a little user tip on Heads, will be at:
Heads, the grsec-hardened Devuan based Fork of Tails (14)
http://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cap/c … uan-14.php
(inexistent at the time of posting this)
not yet completely prepared... (And if my not very good health don't grow worse...)
Really glad to read from you, and proud of your great work at Devuan, gal!
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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akamai_Technologies these guys (and others) control how fast who can serve in the world, it could well be even deliberate slowing down ones and making others fast, it's a matter that I would like to learn more about if anyone can tell us
[2] E.g. IBM appears to be, currently, much more honest then others. See discussion in the latter part of this thread, from this email:
SHA-1 has just been broken
https://lists.gt.net/gentoo/user/323811#323811

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#2 2017-03-25 08:35:58

zephyr
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Re: Discussion about heads

^ many thanks, downloading will take a spin!

Cheers

Z

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#3 2017-03-25 12:37:20

miroR
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Re: Discussion about heads

I just created the tip that I promised:

Heads, the libre privacy distro, some basic usage
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1032#p1032

I hope it may be useful to newbies!


Devs/testers/users of FOSS, what might be ahead for GNU/Linux after we lost PaX Team and spender? spender wrote:
https://forums.grsecurity.net/viewtopic … 699#p17127
Google made the choice to engage in underhanded competition against us with our own code...
grsecurity ripoff by Google, w/ Linus approval https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 4b.en.html

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#4 2017-03-26 20:05:40

fsmithred
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Re: Discussion about heads

I'm pretty sure the git repo was moved because git.devuan.org has been so slow lately. I assume that it's a technical problem and that eventually, there will be a technical solution. 

As for having to go to corporate websites, you only need to go there once. Clone the git repo, and you can build the iso yourself. It's all scripts.

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#5 2017-03-26 20:09:39

golinux
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Re: Discussion about heads

<parazyd> i moved to github . . .

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#6 2017-03-27 07:21:59

miroR
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Re: Discussion about heads

fsmithred wrote:

I'm pretty sure the git repo was moved because git.devuan.org has been so slow lately. I assume that it's a technical problem and that eventually, there will be a technical solution. 

As for having to go to corporate websites, you only need to go there once. Clone the git repo, and you can build the iso yourself. It's all scripts.

True, but still...

From:
http://youbroketheinternet.org/#overlay

Can I trust private cloud technology?
...

but I had a more appropriate quote elsewhere... Aaarghh...  Wait a minute... No, can't find it. But it's ng0 the Guix and Gnunet dev that said it somewhere on some Gentoo site. I couldn't say it better, so I don't want to paraphrase... Just: it's about distributed tech, and not centralized tech, as well.

If it's because of slowliness, it's just what I wrote, find it in almost fineprint at (already given above https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akamai_Technologies ):
Akamai has been accused of blocking access to web sites for visitors using Tor.[83]
And the 83 is:
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/0 … -websites/
(just have your plugins on your browser ready. sophos.com is in very intrusional mood, ~£**!\/# ...)

I know it's just the program git download and not Tor communication, but do you really thing they're not maliciously astute in getting less Tor users and more control by also censoring (that's censorship, go for the definitions of it!) the getting of the Tor-using programs?

The battle is big ahead! ...Spread good programs!...

( whisper: fsmithred, I just sent you a PM some 2hrs ago on Refracta forums. ;-)  In short, for the casual readers, some more silent stuff, and also: Refracta is great, only takes time to learn it, but it pays, it pays abundantly!... )

Regards!

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Devs/testers/users of FOSS, what might be ahead for GNU/Linux after we lost PaX Team and spender? spender wrote:
https://forums.grsecurity.net/viewtopic … 699#p17127
Google made the choice to engage in underhanded competition against us with our own code...
grsecurity ripoff by Google, w/ Linus approval https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 4b.en.html

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#7 2017-03-27 07:54:28

miroR
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Re: Discussion about heads

miroR wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

I'm pretty sure the git repo was moved because git.devuan.org has been so slow lately. I assume that it's a technical problem and that eventually, there will be a technical solution. 

As for having to go to corporate websites, you only need to go there once. Clone the git repo, and you can build the iso yourself. It's all scripts.

True, but still...

From:
http://youbroketheinternet.org/#overlay

where I meant to suggest: find this subtitle and read that paragraph [1]:

Can I trust private cloud technology?
...

but I had a more appropriate quote elsewhere... Aaarghh...  Wait a minute... No, can't find it. But it's ng0 the Guix and Gnunet dev that said it somewhere on some Gentoo site. I couldn't say it better, so I don't want to paraphrase... Just: it's about distributed tech, and not centralized tech, as well.
...

I found it:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Overlay:Yo … heinternet :

I think that's ng0 who wrote:

Git was intended for everyone to run their own little git server 
and pull from each other. Git was NOT invented for centralized 
commercial social networking clouds such as github! If you want 
to submit a patch to this overlay, pass it in form of a textual 
patch or make your copy of this git available on your own onion. 
Github is not a safe infrastructure for a GNU Internet.

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[1] I know some will think, why? we not in obfuscation. True, but if you deal with Github, anonymously or not, all is stored and all the few that crave for control over us have it all to work out on everybody posting/using it, while git.devuan.org *not*. It's not the same. Here is the truth:

Once you log into or simply reach to:
git.devuan.org
all is encrypted, they can't block selectively! No, they can't.
(
Of course, if SSL is good only!
)
That's where some of these (can't reread them now, no time, so some of them):
http://youbroketheinternet.org/
http://secushare.org/
http://secushare.org/PGP
in that sense only! in that sense only! are wrong --not otherwise.
...
And the few control cravers, they don't have all you are doing/have done on git.devuan.org, because git.devuan.org is not about serving them like Github, apparently yes!, is. That's why Akamai is slowing it down.
It's tough, but we must find a solution.
(Of course there could be other components/reasons/you-name-it to the slowliness...)

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Devs/testers/users of FOSS, what might be ahead for GNU/Linux after we lost PaX Team and spender? spender wrote:
https://forums.grsecurity.net/viewtopic … 699#p17127
Google made the choice to engage in underhanded competition against us with our own code...
grsecurity ripoff by Google, w/ Linus approval https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 4b.en.html

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#8 2017-04-04 23:12:35

miroR
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Re: Discussion about heads

It's not always censorship, when corporate sites load fast... (Not always! But, yes it plain malicious censorship sometimes!)...
If anybody is interested to learn how is it that big players are always so very easily accessible, even though it's a topic about SSL (but also not only all the big players, but also all the advanced small players, business or individual, have gone to using SSL), you can still figure a lot about why git.devuan.org can not be very easily accessible in most places of the world...

Keyless SSL: The Nitty Gritty Technical Details
https://blog.cloudflare.com/keyless-ssl … l-details/

Regards!


Devs/testers/users of FOSS, what might be ahead for GNU/Linux after we lost PaX Team and spender? spender wrote:
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Google made the choice to engage in underhanded competition against us with our own code...
grsecurity ripoff by Google, w/ Linus approval https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 4b.en.html

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