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#1701 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Security update delays » 2019-06-18 14:40:59

Ogis1975 wrote:

I'm sorry, but i want to ask. Why do such delays happen?

Here's the explanation that was posted on devuan-dev mailing list yesterday. (The script failed if there was a read timeout.)

Picked this up today. The issue was an unhandled exception in net.py.

I've pushed a fix to Gitlab[0] and applied this in production for both
pkgmaster.do and packages.do.

[0] https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastru … a8252eb85f

The amprolla logs[1] are there for a reason
Just grep it for 'ERR' to see what's wrong.

[1] https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/amprolla.txt

Edit: Phil, I changed the subject line in your original post to 'Solved'. If that's wrong, please let me know. (squeeky wheel law)

#1702 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Security update delays » 2019-06-17 21:42:14

Fixed.

thunderbird:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1:60.7.1-1~deb9u1
  Version table:
     1:60.7.1-1~deb9u1 500
        500 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64 Packages

#1703 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] Security update delays » 2019-06-16 20:59:18

And here's mine:

$ apt-cache policy thunderbird
thunderbird:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1:60.7.1-1~deb9u1
  Version table:
     1:60.7.1-1~deb9u1 500
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64 Packages
     1:60.7.0-1~deb9u1 500
        500 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64 Packages

It's now on the urgent tasks list (again). Thanks for reporting.

#1704 Re: Installation » I lost my desktop after editing conky » 2019-06-15 00:19:34

I'm confused. In one post it looks like you said you created a new user and it worked, and in another post you said you didn't create a new user.

Anyway, maybe you should take a look in both root and user's command history to review what you actually did when you edited the conky config.

#1705 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] DSA-4462-1 dbus -- security update » 2019-06-14 19:17:29

It's normal to have different versions in the main suite and the security suite when the security updates are first introduced. Right now, the updated dbus package needs to be devuanized. (note the distribution names in the versions.)

For now, if you use aptitude full-upgrade, the second option is reasonable:

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] n
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

     Keep the following packages at their current version:
1)     dbus [1.8.20-1+devuan1.1 (now, oldstable)]

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] 

If you want to run without dbus, it's possible. You would probably need to reinstall all the packages it pulls out with it. Most of them will reinstall without any problems. See this (if you haven't already): https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2158

#1707 Re: Other Issues » Beowulf missing /usr/sbin commands (update-rc.d & openvpn) [Solved] » 2019-06-13 11:43:07

czeekaj wrote:

Thanks guys, I think that solves that.
do you have to run after changing bashrc?

. .bashrc 

Yes. (or log out and log in again.)

#1708 Re: Installation » I lost my desktop after editing conky » 2019-06-12 19:18:44

Note the dot in .Xauthority. That makes it a hidden file.

ls -la

Will show you all your files in home as well as who owns them.

Try removing .Xauthority first. If that doesn't fix it, you can start deleting user configs. Those can be found in a hidden directory - ~/.config. The nuclear option is to delete all of .config, and then you'd be logging in like a new user. (i.e. any of your custom desktop settings or desktop-application settings would be lost.)

#1709 Re: Installation » I lost my desktop after editing conky » 2019-06-12 14:02:22

Create a new user and then log in as that user to see if it works. That will tell you if fluxbox is working or not. There may be something in your current user's configs causing the problem.

adduser mrbean2

Then give it a new password and just press Enter for the rest of the questions.

I don't think you get ~/.conkyrc automatically. You have to create it. (see the man page and look for examples on the web)

#1710 Re: Other Issues » Beowulf missing /usr/sbin commands (update-rc.d & openvpn) [Solved] » 2019-06-12 13:24:38

I put the following in /root/.bashrc. It gives me root's normal path when I use 'su' in a user's terminal. The advantage is it keeps me in the user's home instead of moving me to /root, where I'd have to cd to user's home again. (for example to install a deb package I just downloaded). It also allows me to run graphical apps as root. (e.g. I use gparted a lot).

export PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin"

#1711 Re: Installation » Installation keeping old /home » 2019-06-12 11:31:50

czeekaj wrote:

Apparently experimental.
I've used it many times without fail now.

Good to hear. I'm pretty sure that all it does is make an fstab entry for the home partition. And I think you don't get the new desktop config files that way. Also, if the user name and uid don't match, you have serious problems.

Change the directory name to your user name and you should be good to go.

There are also instances of "/home/$username" in various config files that might need to be changed. The live installer can do this when you select a new user name, but ONLY if you take the new /home that the installer gives you (i.e. it copies the home from the live system.)

First user gets id 1000:1000 in debian and probably all debian-based systems. It's the number that determines who owns the files, not the name.

#1712 Re: Installation » Installation keeping old /home » 2019-06-11 20:22:58

I say not to use that feature because it does not work right or work the way anyone expects it to work. I've removed it from later versions of the installer.

You can do a clean install and copy files from backups. If you have a lot of big files, that could take some time. (I'm a little sensitive about this issue now because I recently had to move a terabyte of wav files.) Also, if you copy files from backup as some user, that user will own the copied files.

And if you just keep the files on the hard drive, keep the same user name and user ID number, then permissions and ownership of your files will be correct.

#1713 Re: Installation » Installation keeping old /home » 2019-06-11 11:05:06

If you're planning on using refractainstaller's "keep old home" option, my advice is "Don't do it!"  Install everything to one partition and then manually move your home to the old home partition. Or make a symlink in your new home that goes to the old home. If you want more details on how to do it manually, just ask.

#1714 Re: Off-topic » Google search gives DEVUAN as DEAD ? » 2019-06-07 19:28:58

Search for an exact match

Put a word or phrase inside quotes. For example, "tallest building".

I've tried that many times, and it never seems to work. At this point, I'd be happy to know how to get google to return hits that contain my search terms.

#1715 Re: Other Issues » ceres repository no longer has a Release file - cannot update » 2019-06-05 12:07:34

I believe this problem and others with the repo have been fixed. Please let us know if that's not the case.

#1716 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-06-04 01:39:19

FTR: With plain openbox, setting the theme in:

obconf - just changes the title bar, buttons (and borders?) but not
the highlights.

lxappearance - changes the highlights. (gets rid of the raleigh blue)

lxappearance-obconf - apparently does nothing, and it's described as a
theme switcher for LXDE.

gtk2-engines - didn't seem to do anything in openbox.

To get the cinnabar highlights in synaptic or other root apps, you can copy ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini to root's home after you set the theme with lxappearance.

#1717 Re: Installation » Help with bootup info and stuff » 2019-05-31 19:08:29

Oops. My typo. Should be headers not header. I did it with dollar sign and parentheses, but you can also do it with backticks, which are easier to type but not easier to see in a post.

apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`

The most guified and clicky package manager is synaptic

#1718 Re: Installation » Help with bootup info and stuff » 2019-05-31 16:49:52

If you're going to compile stuff from source you'll need to install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r)

deb.devuan.org was fixed (today?)
another option for using mirrors is auto.mirror.devuan.org which was upgraded to the same software as deb.devuan a few months ago.

Edit: fixed typo - it's headers not header. (and it's build-essential, not essentials in case anyone was wondering)

#1719 Re: Installation » Help with bootup info and stuff » 2019-05-31 11:04:53

pkgmaster.devuan.org should be replaced with deb.devuan.org. That way you will pull from the nearest mirror, and we won't have everyone hitting on the main server. Thanks.

#1720 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-05-30 19:20:06

Thanks, I knew there had to be other ways. (It's linux.)

OMG, I've been using feh for years, and I just read the man page for the first time. I had no idea it could do so much.

#1721 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-05-30 16:48:36

Ogis1975 wrote:

The command to allow PCManFM to set wallpapers and enable the use of desktop icons is:

pcmanfm --desktop

The native desktop menu of the window manager will be replaced with that provided by PCManFM. However, it can easily be restored from the PCManFM menu itself by selecting

Desktop preferences

and then enabling the

Right click shows WM menu

option in the Desktop tab.

Thanks, that works.

If you do get the native window manager menu on right-click, you need to run pcmanfm --display-pref to get the the desktop settings. (to change the wallpaper again after enabling the wm menu)

#1722 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown encrypted LVM on Beowulf » 2019-05-30 11:14:51

For plain encrypted filesystems without lvm, you can do the fix that changes the timeout.

Edit this function in /lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks-functions. (And keep a spare copy of this file those times when an update wipes out your edits. )

_do_stop_callback() {
    local i rv=0
    for i in 1 2 4 8 16 32; do
        remove_mapping "$CRYPTTAB_NAME" 3<&- && break || rv=$?
        if [ $rv -eq 1 ] || [ $rv -eq 2 -a $i -gt 16 ]; then
            log_action_end_msg $rv
            break
        fi
        log_action_cont_msg "$CRYPTTAB_NAME busy..."
        sleep $i
    done

To look more like this. You can make it 'for i in 1' instead of 'for i in 1 2' if you want.

_do_stop_callback() {
    local i rv=0
    for i in 1 2 ; do
        remove_mapping "$CRYPTTAB_NAME" 3<&- && break || rv=$?
        if [ $rv -eq 1 ] || [ $rv -eq 2 -a $i -gt 16 ]; then
            log_action_end_msg $rv
            break
        fi
        log_action_cont_msg "$CRYPTTAB_NAME busy..."
        sleep $i
    done

#1723 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-05-30 11:05:02

I know two ways to get the desktop background image in openbox.

1. spacefm - add the following line to ~/.config/openbox/autostart
spacefm --desktop &
To select a background, open spacefm and go to View, Preferences, then check the Wallpaper box and select an image. That image will come up as the background when you start openbox.

2. nitrogen - add the following line to ~/.config/openbox/autostart
nitrogen --set-scaled /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-background

3. If you use lxdm, openbox will take the background and gtk theme set in /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf
(Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!)

I checked pcmanfm, but I couldn't find a setting for the desktop background.

#1724 Re: Installation » Nvidia proprietary » 2019-05-26 14:58:22

You don't say what card you have. It looks like that package is for optimus. For other nvidia cards, you would install nvidia-drive. Both of those are metapackages which should pull in any dependencies.

#1725 Re: Installation » [Solved] Software selection in Devuan ASCII netinst » 2019-05-26 14:56:12

The problem is you keep trying to install the xfce4 package when you don't want it. It's a metapackage that pulls in parts of the xfce4 desktop that you don't want. Just install the parts you do want as I posted above.

Here it is again, without the extra backslash at the end:

apt install  xfconf xfdesktop4 xfwm4 xfce4-terminal xfce4-session xfce4-xkb-plugin xfce4-panel \
thunar thunar-volman thunar-archive-plugin xfce4-notifyd libnotify-bin mesa-utils  \
xfce4-power-manager xfce4-cpugraph-plugin  xfwm4-themes

More info:

$ apt-cache show xfce4
Package: xfce4
Version: 4.12.3
Installed-Size: 16
Maintainer: Debian Xfce Maintainers <pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Architecture: all
Depends: xfwm4 (>= 4.12.0), xfconf (>= 4.12.0), xfce4-settings (>= 4.12.0), xfce4-panel (>= 4.12.0), xfdesktop4 (>= 4.12.0), thunar (>= 1.6.6), gtk2-engines-xfce (>= 3.2.0), xfce4-session (>= 4.12.0), xfce4-appfinder (>= 4.12.0), xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, orage (>= 4.12.0), libxfce4ui-utils (>= 4.12)
Homepage: http://www.xfce.org/
Recommends: xorg, desktop-base (>= 5.0.4), thunar-volman (>= 0.8.1), tango-icon-theme (>= 0.8.90), xfce4-notifyd
Description: Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment
Description-md5: 53123f9cf40a71f1a87679634af17db3
Suggests: xfce4-goodies, xfce4-power-manager (>= 1.4.0), gtk3-engines-xfce (>= 3.2.0)
Tag: admin::configuring, interface::graphical, interface::x11, role::dummy,
scope::utility, suite::xfce, uitoolkit::gtk, use::configuring,
x11::application
Section: xfce
Priority: optional
Filename: pool/DEBIAN/main/x/xfce4/xfce4_4.12.3_all.deb
Size: 8014
MD5sum: f3c63bd59ac3aecd6d96ceeeea5f011c
SHA256: 72242e290d6efd1e672f25ec5eaf3c45925be2206e329081b02c19032b69397a

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