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Many years ago, I was advised to type those letters s-l-o-w-l-y or it wouldn't work. Seems it needs time to do stuff along the way. This may or may not be true. I also remember that something has to be allowed for it to work. I think it has worked for me but also seem to remember it failing at other times. Maybe I'm just confused . . . LOL!
Hey Plentyn! Nice to see you!! Jaromil has mentioned another conference recently but I think that the core in AMS has scatted due to COVID. I know I won't be able to come again. No vax = no air travel.
Hi everyone,
I installed Devuan (devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso) I need to run few apt install
any ideas ?
It looks like there is a typo. It should be chimaera not chimera.
Also . . . would be nice if you could actually post the code using the code tags rather than posting off-site images.
Thanks.
And looks like you might have a clock issue and need to comment the CDROM line in sources.list
Not if you're already bothering to disable the Analytics javascript in every site you visit.
I thought uBlock Origin did that automatically. Maybe I'm missing something . . .
Here's the old gnome xkill icon
It has disappeared from the search engines but I have been keeping it alive for a very long time in my icon collection. Enjoy!
golinux wrote:I have an xkill launcher in my xfce panel. Very helpful for misbehaving browsers
Will xkill kill the panel / taskbar if you click on that ?
Not sure if I wanted to try because not sure how to get it back if it does.. lol
In my experience, it won't destroy the panel even if you do accidentally click it! At least on jessie and earlier because I have accidentally clicked outside the intended target a few times. It does kill the browser when you click and on restart, the session has been saved and I am able to get right back to work. I just tested FF on a chimaera VM and it seems to remember where I left of without saving the session. IOW, it reloaded the pages automatically.
I have an xkill launcher in my xfce panel. Very helpful for misbehaving browsers ![]()
There is also this solution from fsmithred:
su was moved from the shadow source package to util-linux, and the behavior changed at that time. To revert to the old behavior (from man su):
echo 'ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes' >> /etc/default/su
Only the netinstall provides an init choice during installation. The "live" disk just copies pre-configured files of a default install. Then you can change init post-install,
Look at screenshot #19 in the install guide
@aitor . . . there have been a few nibbles. I am hopeful!
Ahoy fredd . . . I can't help with your issue but I can tell you that it's soooooo nice to see you after a very long time.
Have missed you . . .
@Altoid . . . Thing is . . . the task requires a color palette and a descriptive image doesn't provide that. Thanks for the input.
. . . Then each release would have a distinct 'seal' so to speak, all seals designed according to a certain defined style. eg: Beowulf the head of the mythical hero, chimaera the head of the mythical beast, an so on.
Just wanted to clarify one thing here as a caution to never make assumptions (which humans all too often do). The chimaera that inspired the "deepsea" theme should have been a clue that it wasn't the chimaera described above. It was the pointy-nosed blue chimaera Hydrolagus trolli.
Nice video at the bottom . . .
Hello:
golinux wrote:. . . with one caveat. An associated color identity for each release is helpful.
Yes ...
But as helpful as it may be, (in my opinion, ymmv) I think the amount of work involved is a luxury we cannot afford.
I took on that burden because I am an extremely visual person. And yes it is (or was) a labor of love for Devuan to be beautiful (IMO) as well as functional.
There's more than enough for Devuan to do as things stand to just continue existing.
This is also true. Yet in all the bike-shedding that is currently going on, except for aitor, not one comment has come from a Devuan contributor (afaik).
ie: golinux's brave efforts are pointed at something that is excessively burdensome, complex and (again, imo) unnecessary.
Isn't all art ultimately "unnecessary". Yet, it has a purpose. Jaromil understands this. All I know is that my efforts have been appreciated by many Devuan users.
Devuan could, for example, decide on a trademark/specific colour on which we could all vote. (cringes at the prospect ...)
Heaven help us all . . .
Then each release would have a distinct 'seal' so to speak, all seals designed according to a certain defined style.
Yes, the release name could be added to the wallpaper and elsewhere. We have already been mulling over just continuing with Chimaera theming going forward.
eg: Beowulf the head of the mythical hero, chimaera the head of the mythical beast, an so on.
Just text would be sufficient or we will be in perpetual bike-shedding . . .
There would then be only one thing to change: the 'seal' for each release, like the back side of commemorative coins, within certain pre-established design parameters.
Now, if that causes any confusion, you could just add a whole number after/above/below it and use uname -a to get the details.
Just an idea.
Your input is appreciated. ![]()
Why not just stick to what we have(?).
Exactly . . . with one caveat. An associated color identity for each release is helpful. Recycling them as the official release default is likely to cause confusion.
Why do we need to keep on changing it(?).
As to the layout . . . no need to change it at all.
You could always include the release name in small letters at the bottom right or left of the 'official' background.
(If you wanted it identifying as a new release).
That is one possibility but not really the best solution. In any case . . . I understand all the themes are working in Daedalus. If at some point that changes or if Xfce becomes unworkable, it will be back to square one.
I'm not certain where devuan wants to be. If it were me, and it isn't, I'd suggest that devuan operate with offering a single branded DE that is minimalist in nature. Because Devuan is more akin to Debian than anything else that could be xfce.
Isn't that what we've been doing for the last 7 years. All Devuan artwork for Jessie, ASCII, Beowulf and Chimeaera is here. That includes theming for the Xfce desktop.
If there's any objective to increase the user base for Devuan then IMO more wallpaper choices should be a priority.
Devuan's objective is to provide Debian without systemd. We are not interested in marketing. Our original intention was to provide a minimal system! If fsmithred hadn't stepped up to do the live isos and I hadn't gone down the rabbit hole with Hellekin and others to put together the theming and logo etc., there would only have been default desktop theming.
What should the color scheme be when the Daedalus release arrives?
That is for those who are willing to participate in the the actual work to decide.
This is a very specific HELP WANTED post that is going to all sorts of unrelated places.
Can we please try to keep the puppy on the newspaper? I'll split some wandering posts off into a new thread after I wake up.
So who is willing to take on this specific task as described in post #1. Period.
Oh aitor! Thank you!! But do you have the time to take on another piece of Devuan? The task is not trivial. I'll post the request to DNG and -dev also. Let's see what happens . . . ![]()
With all that needs to be done, changing the wallpaper is definitely not on the to TODO list.
HELP WANTED! Devuan needs someone to take over the branded theming of the Xfce desktop going forward.
While I can still do colors, integrating them into the templates has become too much for my old brain to navigate.
The many pieces that need to be coordinated are described in this HOW-TO.
I am happy to mentor/collaborate as needed.
So who would like to make the Daedalus desktop beautiful?
golinux
In Xfce, I just right click on any image that I want on my desktop in any location and choose the "Set as wallpaper" option.
Where are my styles though?
Themes are found in /usr/share/themes/ or locally in you user directory in .themes. All previous Devuan themes are still available in the repos.