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> We are all adults
Waiting for this part to be revised once some under-18 users complain (which they should)...
Some under 18 are more adult than many over 18. IOW, maturity is not a number and hopefully those who come here will attempt to understand that.
I am on sid Devuan
Just to reduce confusion for new readers . . .
There is Debian sid.
There is no Devuan sid.
There IS Devuan ceres.
Devuan ceres identifies, works around some and blacklists other systemd dependencies in Debian sid.
Yes I think there was a mistake on that link;
the OP had this link: https://imgur.com/8MA5SQK which does include the "swoosh"
Yeah, I saw that up top. A bit too murky imo but at least marginally visible. Thankfully not my problem . . . ![]()
I'm confused . . . maybe it's my old eyes . . . or maybe I don't understand what a watermark is . . . or maybe I need special xray glasses?
And how its can help?
You can find stuff.
. . . driver from sid and i use stable
You might be able to backport it to stable. Don't ask me how. That's beyond my skill-set.
You can download and install just what you need.
pkginfo.devuan.org is a very useful tool.
No need to add Debian repo. Devuan already has it!
Debian sid = Devuan ceres
I think that zapper and andyprough should create their own forum where they can try to outdo each other's nonsense. Please stop wasting Devuan resources on irrelevant babble.
Seems you've forgotten this is a GNUinOS - Libre thread not a Trisquel thread.
I tried to make a small donation but the form wanted my phone number and that's something I would even give to mother Theresa :-)
I just investigated the options HERE and it seems that credit card donations are going through PayPal (yuck) and the the form does indeed ask for a phone number. Is that the option you tried? I don't know if it's always been that way but I can ask the folks at dyne if they are aware it is set up that way. That web page hasn't been changed in a long time. PayPal might have changed their procedure or someone would have probably mentioned it before.
This thread has reached a new and embarrassing low in Devuan history . . . grow up . . .
hm, chimaera should be daedalus, no?
Yes. bookworm will be excalibur
Don'cha know that the kiddies have to be stoopiD . . .
@zephyr . . . Does this suit you? Presentation is framed because the light BG kills it.

There is also the debian-cd package:
If you go that route you'll need to be aware of the banned packages list or suffer the consequences.
This wouldn't work for you?
server (~670 MB): CD1 of a 4 CD set that allows for a complete off-line server/minimal installation. The remaining CDs offer several desktop choices and a limited selection of additional software.
CD2: Xfce (installable from tasksel) and LXDE.
CD3: MATE (installable from tasksel) and Openbox window manager.
CD4: Cinnamon (installable from tasksel) but requires CD2 and CD3 to install.
That's fine golinux, I was just sharing what I was reading :-)
Fair enough . . .
I don't know how you find time to read so much or why you'd want to. But that's another conversation . . .
@HoaS . . . You should know by now that "Medical Professionals" can kiss my skinny behind. ![]()
You weren't around when Trust Us, We're Experts! was written.
And there you have it . . .
[edit] I thought sure that was written in the mid-20th century . . .
golinux wrote:@andyprough . . . from the sublime to the ridiculous, eh . . .
We will probably find out in the end that the path to enlightenment was actually through Gorgoroth death metal music all along. Who knew?
Seems you are unaware of the consequences that can come from even an off-the-cuff attempt at humor like that. But then, it is your life and your choice to squander it as you wish . . . ![]()
@andyprough . . . from the sublime to the ridiculous, eh . . .
Thank you Andy for those offerings. I'm sure they will bring comfort to many.
Here's a slightly different perspective and focus. Monastics from the Abhayagiri Monastery chanting funeral texts that focus on the grinding realities of impermanence and cause and effect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n16o2TYpKyQ
A recitation of the Paticcasaṃuppāda (Dependent Origination) starts at about 9:02 with the words:
Avijiāpaccayā sankhārā
Sankhārapaccayā viññānam
. . .