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#1101 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » caja automatically opens some thumbdrives but not others [SOLVED] » 2017-06-29 20:33:14

GNUser wrote:

I'm sure that some subtle difference between a thumbdrive from factory vs. one formatted in GParted is to blame for this...

No sir. I literally have 8 different thumb drives with me right now, ALL have been formatted with gparted. Just for giggles I deleted everything on one and unformatted completely, after I did that it wouldn't even automount, much less open. I reformatted to ext3 with gparted, unplugged/plugged and it opened right up. I have probably done a couple hundred usb drives with gparted in the last ten years, trust me, it's not gparted.

#1102 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » caja automatically opens some thumbdrives but not others [SOLVED] » 2017-06-29 20:21:44

lazlo wrote:

Just a shot in the dark here, but could it be an artifact of removing the systemd dependencies?

lazlo

Nope. I'm running the exact same system. And just tested another Devuan Mate install, everything working correctly.

#1103 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » caja automatically opens some thumbdrives but not others [SOLVED] » 2017-06-29 20:06:51

hmmm, I can't figure it out, the only way I can even reproduce your issue is unchecking that box in preferences.

Maybe check /home/(user)/.config/mimeapps.list, I have this entry in mine:

inode/directory=caja-folder-handler.desktop

Maybe that will help?

#1104 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » caja automatically opens some thumbdrives but not others [SOLVED] » 2017-06-29 19:42:44

GNUser wrote:

Thanks, greenjeans. Caja's "Browse media when inserted" is already checked.

Maybe formatting in GParted causes the thumbdrive's x-content to change? How do I check its current x-content and, if applicable, change it to something that will continue to trigger Automount-open?

Can't be gparted, I use it all the time and have never had the issue. Your x-content in this case is simply the fat32 filesystem you put on the usb, if it mounts it you're fine, just need to auto-open.

Just for giggles, open caja as root, and make sure that box is checked for root user as well.

Mate is funny like that, i've had some glitches in the past where the system didn't want to honor the user's preferences because root preferences were different.

I'm using Mate right now and can confirm that unchecking that box stops auto-open on my machine, and re-checking it makes it work again.

Might be something you need to do in the mimeapps.list.

#1105 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Retention of packages, i never installed a printer ... » 2017-06-29 19:28:51

keos wrote:

Well, i wasn't  sure about it, there are many packages relater to 'printer' ... i removed somes of them,  till now the update is ok, i did my best ...

Did you ever figure this out?  Synaptic is pretty handy when trying to figure out what you do and don't need.

The system-config-printer stuff can definitely go, that's just a helper gui for configging printers. Once you uninstall that there will likely be other packages that pop up as "autoremoveable", you can uninstall those too. A search on "cups" will list everything cups-related and you can get rid of most if not all of that, search "printer drivers" and uninstall those too.

#1106 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » caja automatically opens some thumbdrives but not others [SOLVED] » 2017-06-29 19:08:26

There are settings in dconf related to automount, and automount-open that are usually both active in the default install, that's why it automounts it and continues to automount after formatting.

Automount-open however, only works on media for which no known x-content is detected, if the media is recognized it will use the user-specified action instead.

Open caja, click Edit>>Preferences>>Media>> and be sure that the bottom box "Browse media when inserted" is checked. If that doesn't work you may need to add to the mimeapps.list

#1107 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2017-06-28 20:19:15

Somewhat Reticent wrote:

These are nice!  Full/max versions resemble my usual first test choices.
I recommend some sort of "dark" theme; Adwaita-Dark (for one) makes synaptic tolerable during dark-shift.
Not sure how to do that in OpenBox; I think synaptic takes gtk3.
Nice to see yad too - which repository is it in now?
Haven't tried PaleMoon on Linux for a while; nice to see it pick up (most) favorite add-ons, and OS theme.
(I have to add pavucontrol to get my speakers working right; maté's "sound" seems too dumb-down for me - minor.)
I see xfce-power-manager, is it better than the maté version?
Again, nice ISOs. Thanks!
:::
(No internet at your cabin?  What do you do, sneaker-net from a library/café?)

Thanks!

Yep, I have to mess with Mate's sound preferences after an install almost every time, seems like pulseaudio is still a little finicky at times.

Glad you noticed the XFCE power manager, I substituted that because the mate power manager (like the default shutdown menu in mate now) doesn't seem to want to support suspend or hibernate. XFCE version just works better. I also added Obsession in Mate because it works so well in Openbox, easy way to add keyboard shortcuts to do everything shutdown-related. It's addicting after you use them for a while, file-manager and terminal too, just so handy compared to hunting through menus.

HA!  yep, at the local coffeeshop in town now, doing my thing on my 50 dollah pawnshop lappy, i'm......thrifty......lol ;D

#1108 Re: Devuan » Defend Devuan against Antivirus and other thinks » 2017-06-27 23:19:07

The only one in the repo is the ubiquitous Clamav, it works okay, have used it a fair bit. There are also some rootkit programs like rkhunter.

#1109 Devuan Derivatives » Vuu-do Linux! *New Openbox-64 iso's (1.0.7) up 2-02-18*!! » 2017-06-27 23:07:30

greenjeans
Replies: 199

UPDATE: Discussion of latest Vuu-do development can be found at:
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=6944

=========================================

*Update* New Openbox 64 versions (1.0.7) uploaded, 2-02-2018* https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do/files/Openbox/

Moved the project to Sourceforge now, Yahoo/Aabaco webhosting has no support and can't manage to accept an FTP upload faster than 16k. All images are fully updated as of a couple weeks ago, will run new ones if we get a large mass of updates.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do/

Project only, not a distro as I have no real time for support or even an internet connection at my cabin.

This is for advanced users, and has been localized to English and UTF-8.

Vuu-do linux is a small, lightweight project based on Devuan and re-spun from Miyolinux. This is a minimal setup meant to be a base to build on with the programs/packages of your choice. There is an Openbox and also a Mate version.

It has all the infrastructure and utilities needed for a base system, but no browser or other programs installed. It is actually pretty cushy for Openbox, it's meant to make it easy for even a new linux user to use. The Mate version is similar but with the added functionality of the Mate DE.

There is also now a maximal version of both, with many added programs including:
Pale Moon web browser, Exaile, VLC, GIMP, Inkscape, Handbrake, XFburn (Brasero in the Mate version), Hexchat, Winff, a couple of Libreoffice programs (Calc for spreadsheets, Writer for .pdf's, .doc's, .rtf's etc.), some games, and some additional firmware and utilities.

VUU-DO stands for Veteran Unix User-do, because if I can do it, so can you. And all thanks to a lot of great VUA's who make VUU's possible. big_smile

Vuu-do is powered by Devuan with the help of a whole lotta fsmithred/Refracta magic and Miyolinux soul.

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#1110 Re: Installation » Wi-Fi nonfunctional - Qualcom Atheros Device 0041 (rev 20) » 2017-06-27 19:50:11

Hi, question: Do you have the Atheros firmware package installed? If not this may solve your issue.

#1111 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Retention of packages, i never installed a printer ... » 2017-06-27 19:44:59

keos wrote:

How can I remove all the printer packages of the system from the command line?.

Any reason you didn't just uninstall them while you were in Synaptic?

#1112 Re: Off-topic » backup systems sheet comparison » 2017-06-23 23:24:05

Refractasnapshot. Works perfectly. Ridiculously easy to use. Bonus: make your own livecd's.  It may be my favorite software for linux ever. wink

#1113 Re: Other Issues » Fglrx and devuan... how's that looking? » 2017-06-23 23:08:38

Fglrx has worked fine in both 32 and 64 bit on multiple laptops i've tried so far, 3 APU units and 1 with a separate amd GPU. Better graphics, and some low-spec machines won't play a DVD without dropping frames and glitching if you don't have the proprietary drivers.

#1114 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » hp laptos, camera problem ans reason of why get hand [no solution] » 2017-06-23 23:04:22

Kind of having a hard time understanding what you are trying to do? Use the laptop's camera? Plug in a digital camera via USB?

In any case, i'm surprised if you are having an issue, as I have two HP laptops and have installed Devuan on 4 other HP and Compaq machines, and cameras all work so far in every machine.

VLC or Cheese will run the HP built-in laptop cameras just fine.

As for plugging in digitals, Devuan recognizes them when you plug them in, every one i've tried.

#1115 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How to change the Hostname in DEVUAN ? » 2017-06-11 19:27:27

spartrekus wrote:

Hello,

How to change the Hostname in DEVUAN ?

Probably the method echo "mynewpcname" > /etc/hostname with after a reboot, is not the official one wink

thank you

well that's how I do it, it actually says in the man page for hostname, that editing etc/hostname is the only way of permanently changing it.

#1116 Re: Other Issues » newbie question, as I am » 2017-06-10 21:53:12

msi wrote:

Btw, I'm not quite sure if reading these books is the best way to learn your way around Devuan and GNU/Linux in general. But it won't do any harm either, I guess.

So for a change, a newbie is actually offering to RTFM all on his own, and you're trying to discourage him?

wink

#1117 Re: Off-topic » Life after Firefox » 2017-06-10 17:27:03

golinux wrote:
greenjeans wrote:

Needs to be a revolution in web content, no more patronizing any site that feels compelled to ram mountains of rotating ads, flash, javascript, thrid party crap, autostarting video etc. etc. , down a user's throat.

Users have the option to take control.  Between adblock plus and stylish, I never see any of those offensive things.  At least not more than once.  Even at that FF is a resource hog . . .

Yep, it still takes resources and effort to react to and block all that stuff, more effort many times to do that than it is to load the page in the first place, so everything goes twice as slow.

Ads wouldn't be so bad, if they were static. And weren't trying furiously to ram multiple 3rd party tracking cookies down your throat.

#1118 Re: Off-topic » Life after Firefox » 2017-06-09 18:35:58

Tried Palemoon after reading this thread, and I have to agree, pretty nice, much faster than fizzlefox.

To be fair, it's not the browser's fault so much as it is the people who put content on the internet, there's so much garbage going on when you try to load a page on a busy commercial site.

A simple site like this forum, i'm actually browsing and posting from the little 130 line browser I posted, it's all you need for simple static content.

Needs to be a revolution in web content, no more patronizing any site that feels compelled to ram mountains of rotating ads, flash, javascript, thrid party crap, autostarting video etc. etc. , down a user's throat.

#1119 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown and root passsword » 2017-06-04 21:02:18

zapper wrote:

alt + p didn't really work for me so I am assuming it is a glitch of the testing version.

Well it won't work unless you specifically bind those keys (or any other combo of keys) to that command.  Alt+p works in my system because I made that keyboard shortcut as well as the others. Just need to figure out where to change keybindings in your system and tie keys to the obsesssion-exit commands.

mate@vuudomate:~$ obsession-exit --help
Usage:
  obsession-exit [OPTION...] 

Help Options:
  -h, --help             Show help options

Application Options:
  -p, --poweroff         Shutdown the computer
  -s, --suspend          Suspend the computer
  -H, --hibernate        Go to Hibernation
  -r, --reboot           Restart the computer
  -c, --capabilities     List power capabilities

#1120 Re: Other Issues » policykit-1, polkit, polkitd authentication problems » 2017-06-04 20:56:42

linijkarz wrote:

Hello!

I believe I encountered a bug with the policykit-1 package and software provided by it since it was one of the packages that Devuan Team modified to work without systemd. I'm reluctant to file a bug report yet because I want to make sure that it's actually a bug and not me missing a crucial detail.
Symptoms include:

inability to mount external storage like USB flash drive - results in "Not authorized to perform operatons"

Please help.

For this part at least, I think I would look in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/*

Might be some settings there that need to change, I know in Openbox I had to mod the udisks2 policy because it didn't want to let me mount other partitions.

#1121 Re: Off-topic » Is Blackbox still today a recommended or outdated WM ? » 2017-06-02 21:02:53

spartrekus wrote:
FOSSuser wrote:

If I remember, I switched to Fluxbox because it wasn't being maintained, but there are a lot of people who like & use Openbox nowadays, maybe you would like to give it a try.

With Linux, it is always the same. When a software is good, stable, efficiently ugly and having low memory footprint, the project will be abandoned.
Always same story wink

Isn't that the dang truth? Ya know people were telling me like 6 years ago or so to stop using gpicview and use something else because gpicview was no longer being developed.

6 years later and it STILL WORKS JUST FINE.

It is no longer developed because THERE WAS NOTHING LEFT TO DO because IT WORKS JUST FREAKIN FINE WITHOUT ANY MORE CODE NEEDED!!

Not sure why this is so hard to understand for some folks. If it ain't broke, it don't need fixin', and if it don't need fixin', that means IT'S STABLE AND WORKS JUST FINE!!

In truth i'd be happy if almost EVERY package on my system was like this, I don't care how old they are or if they are being developed. Some end-users just mindlessly "upgrade" everything they can at every opportunity and spend waaaaaaay more time than I have to spare, trying to repair the resulting carnage.

#1122 Re: Other Issues » What is best way to install latest version of Firefox? » 2017-06-02 20:30:58

golinux wrote:
GNUser wrote:

This is wrong and it makes me angry.

Pissed a lot of people off.  Don't get angry.  Get busy and create an alternative.  Don't expect corporations to do it for you.

ETA: Sound works but i'm in my working mate partition so it has pulse, will try in a bit in openbox/alsa. Video works though it doesn't want to do high-def, but that's likely this low-spec machine and it's crappy APU. But dang, for regular browsing this works and it's lightning-quick!

Okay, here's a browser, haven't tested sound but i'm pretty sure video plays, save it in a text file and name it something.py and make it executable, you can change the name in the title bar and the homepage to whatever you want, this is not my code, just stuff I have picked up on the net over the years. FYI I am posting this using this browser, so it supports logins and most other things I think:

#!/usr/bin/env python

import pygtk
pygtk.require('2.0')
import gtk
import webkit
import gobject

name = "Vuu-do Browser"

class Browser:
    default_site = "http://www.dev1galaxy.org"

    def delete_event(self, widget, event, data=None):
        return False

    def destroy(self, widget, data=None):
        gtk.main_quit()

    def __init__(self):
        gobject.threads_init()
        self.window = gtk.Window(gtk.WINDOW_TOPLEVEL)
        self.window.set_resizable(True)
        self.window.set_default_size(1100, 950)
        self.window.connect("delete_event", self.delete_event)
        self.window.connect("destroy", self.destroy)

        #webkit.WebView allows us to embed a webkit browser
        #it takes care of going backwards/fowards/reloading
        #it even handles flash
        self.web_view = webkit.WebView()
        self.web_view.open(self.default_site)
        self.window.set_title('%s' % name)

        toolbar = gtk.Toolbar()

        #create the back button and connect the action to
        #allow us to go backwards using webkit
        self.back_button = gtk.ToolButton(gtk.STOCK_GO_BACK)
        self.back_button.connect("clicked", self.go_back)

        #same idea for forward button
        self.forward_button = gtk.ToolButton(gtk.STOCK_GO_FORWARD)
        self.forward_button.connect("clicked", self.go_forward)

        #again for refresh
        refresh_button = gtk.ToolButton(gtk.STOCK_REFRESH)
        refresh_button.connect("clicked", self.refresh)
        
        #again for home
        home_button = gtk.ToolButton(gtk.STOCK_HOME)
        home_button.connect("clicked", self.go_home)

        #entry bar for typing in and display URLs, when they type in a site
        #and hit enter the on_active function is called
        self.url_bar = gtk.Entry()
        self.url_bar.connect("activate", self.on_active)
        entry_tool = gtk.ToolItem()
        entry_tool.set_expand(True)
        entry_tool.add(self.url_bar)
        self.url_bar.show()

        #anytime a site is loaded the update_buttons will be called
        self.web_view.connect("load_committed", self.update_buttons)

        scroll_window = gtk.ScrolledWindow(None, None)
        scroll_window.add(self.web_view)

        #add the buttons to the toolbar
        toolbar.add(self.back_button)
        toolbar.add(self.forward_button)
        toolbar.add(refresh_button)
        toolbar.add(home_button)
        toolbar.add(entry_tool)

        vbox = gtk.VBox(False, 0)
        vbox.pack_start(toolbar, False, True, 0)
        vbox.pack_start(self.url_bar, False, True, 0)
        vbox.add(scroll_window)

        self.window.add(vbox)
        self.window.show_all()

    def on_active(self, widge, data=None):
        '''When the user enters an address in the bar, we check to make
           sure they added the http://, if not we add it for them.  Once
           the url is correct, we just ask webkit to open that site.'''
        url = self.url_bar.get_text()
        try:
            url.index("://")
        except:
            url = "http://"+url
        self.url_bar.set_text(url)
        self.web_view.open(url)

    def go_back(self, widget, data=None):
        '''Webkit will remember the links and this will allow us to go
           backwards.'''
        self.web_view.go_back()

    def go_forward(self, widget, data=None):
        '''Webkit will remember the links and this will allow us to go
           forwards.'''
        self.web_view.go_forward()

    def refresh(self, widget, data=None):
        '''Simple makes webkit reload the current back.'''
        self.web_view.reload()
        
    def go_home(self, widget, data=None):
		'''Returns to default site, Homepage'''
		self.web_view.open(self.default_site)

    def update_buttons(self, widget, data=None):
        '''Gets the current url entry and puts that into the url bar.
           It then checks to see if we can go back, if we can it makes the
           back button clickable.  Then it does the same for the foward
           button.'''
        self.url_bar.set_text( widget.get_main_frame().get_uri() )
        self.back_button.set_sensitive(self.web_view.can_go_back())
        self.forward_button.set_sensitive(self.web_view.can_go_forward())
        self.go_home.set_sensitive(self.web_view.can_default_site())

    def main(self):
        gtk.main()

if __name__ == "__main__":
    browser = Browser()
    browser.main()

#1123 Re: Other Issues » What is best way to install latest version of Firefox? » 2017-06-02 19:13:05

Spass wrote:

(Note: New versions of Firefox (52 and up) require PulseAudio for audio playback, see here.)

<insert greenjeans fit of cussing here>

I don't mind pulseaudio near as much some folks, I just object to being FORCED to install even more software to use a damn browser. Is it not already bad enough that FF is so giant and bloated? Not to mention getting slower and slower by the year.

You can make a working browser out of about 9-10 lines of code if you have webkit and perl or python. 100+MB is ridiculous.

#1124 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown and root passsword » 2017-06-02 19:05:57

Nili wrote:

sudo shutdown is it not so practical even i'm using it. policykit-1 tool with a config shortcut like alt+p It's more simplicity.

I just tied keybindings to obsession commands, obsession-exit is the cli executable i.e. : obsession-exit -p = poweroff/shutdown

#1125 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown and root passsword » 2017-06-02 18:09:49

zapper wrote:

Yeah... I just tried sudo shutdown and it worked. I will just say, ignore all my kshutdown comments, sudo shutdown is better. hehe.

Still not as quick and cool as merely hitting alt+p and getting a quick 3 second shutdown. wink

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