Posts by zapper

zapper · Hardware & System Configuration

without removing half of the contents of devuan in the process? Or removing anything but the libsystemd0 files.

I said files, because I have wine which required i386 version of stuff.

I am using devuan ascii, and I wanted to put openrc on instead of that sysvinit. that is why I ask.

Its probably more secure to use openrc given it is still being updated after all right?

Given devuan is a way to fix debian, I cannot imagine how bad ubuntu is by comparison...

;/

zapper · Hardware & System Configuration

alt + p didn't really work for me so I am assuming it is a glitch of the testing version.

zapper · Devuan

Nili wrote:

sgage wrote:
I thought 3.16 was an LTS kernel?...
We'll get updates for 3.16 series up to 2020, So do not worry. 3.16 is a LTS kernel.
If there would be a news or changes for this kernel in a way we'll get to know.
Regards!

I had thought all kernels lasted for 2 years at most other than Super long term support kernels which are supposedly 10+ years

https://www.cip-project.org/blog/2016/1 … nce-europe

this is one such example...

although, I just checked and the kernel that was mentioned actually lasts 6 years...

well I guess I don't know as much as I think.

zapper · Hardware & System Configuration

Nili wrote:

Topic interesting this one. I thought to try kshutdown on my minimal setup.
WOW just Cool! I didn't imagine that would bring so many goddess

Edit: Oh just i see now this is a KDE tool right? Isn't for me anyway...

nili ~ $ sudo apt-get install -s kshutdown
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  aspell aspell-en dbus-x11 dictionaries-common docbook-xml docbook-xsl emacsen-common fonts-freefont-ttf gnupg-agent gnupg2 iso-codes
  kate-data katepart kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdoctools liba52-0.7.4 libaa1 libaspell15
  libassuan0 libattica0.4 libaudio2 libavc1394-0 libbasicusageenvironment0 libcanberra0 libcddb2 libchromaprint0 libclucene-core1
  libcrystalhd3 libdbusmenu-qt2 libdca0 libdirectfb-1.2-9 libdlrestrictions1 libdvbpsi9 libebml4 libenchant1c2a libexiv2-13 libfaad2
  libfam0 libfreerdp-cache1.1 libfreerdp-client1.1 libfreerdp-codec1.1 libfreerdp-common1.1.0 libfreerdp-core1.1 libfreerdp-crypto1.1
  libfreerdp-gdi1.1 libfreerdp-locale1.1 libfreerdp-primitives1.1 libfreerdp-rail1.1 libfreerdp-utils1.1 libgles1-mesa libgles2-mesa
  libgpgme++2 libgpgme11 libgpm2 libgroupsock1 libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0 libgstreamer1.0-0 libhunspell-1.3-0 libilmbase6 libiodbc2
  libiso9660-8 libkactivities6 libkate1 libkatepartinterfaces4 libkcmutils4 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecore5 libkdesu5
  libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkfile4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkio5 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkmediaplayer4
  libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkparts4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkrosscore4 libksba8 libktexteditor4 libkutils4
  libkxmlrpcclient4 libldb1 liblivemedia23 libltdl7 libmad0 libmatroska6 libmhash2 libmng1 libmodplug1 libmpcdec6 libmpeg2-4 libnepomuk4
  libnepomukquery4a libnepomukutils4 libnl-3-200 libnl-route-3-200 libntdb1 libntrack-qt4-1 libntrack0 libopenexr6 libphonon4 libplasma3
  libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libpostproc52 libproxy-tools libproxy1 libpth20 libpulse-mainloop-glib0
  libpython2.7 libqca2 libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative libqt4-designer libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script
  libqt4-sql libqt4-svg libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtcore4 libqtdbus4 libqtgui4 libqtwebkit4 libraptor2-0 librasqal3 librdf0
  libresid-builder0c2a libsdl-image1.2 libsdl1.2debian libshine3 libshout3 libsidplay2 libsmbclient libsolid4 libsoprano4 libspeexdsp1
  libssh-gcrypt-4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libsysfs2 libtag1-vanilla libtag1c2a libtalloc2 libtdb1 libtevent0 libthreadweaver4
  libtwolame0 libupnp6 libusageenvironment1 libutempter0 libva-drm1 libvcdinfo0 libvlc5 libvlccore8 libvncclient0 libvorbisfile3
  libwbclient0 libwebp5 libwinpr-crt0.1 libwinpr-crypto0.1 libwinpr-dsparse0.1 libwinpr-environment0.1 libwinpr-file0.1 libwinpr-handle0.1
  libwinpr-heap0.1 libwinpr-input0.1 libwinpr-interlocked0.1 libwinpr-library0.1 libwinpr-path0.1 libwinpr-pool0.1 libwinpr-registry0.1
  libwinpr-rpc0.1 libwinpr-sspi0.1 libwinpr-synch0.1 libwinpr-sysinfo0.1 libwinpr-thread0.1 libwinpr-utils0.1 libxcb-composite0
  libxcb-keysyms1 libxcb-randr0 libxcb-xv0 libxml2-utils libxslt1.1 libyajl2 libzvbi-common libzvbi0 ntrack-module-libnl-0
  oxygen-icon-theme phonon phonon-backend-vlc pinentry-gtk2 plasma-scriptengine-javascript python-talloc qdbus qtchooser qtcore4-l10n
  samba-libs sgml-base sgml-data soprano-daemon vlc vlc-data vlc-nox vlc-plugin-pulse xdg-utils xml-core
Suggested packages:
  aspell-doc spellutils wordlist docbook docbook-dsssl docbook-defguide dbtoepub docbook-xsl-doc-html docbook-xsl-doc-pdf
  docbook-xsl-doc-text docbook-xsl-doc docbook-xsl-saxon fop libsaxon-java libxalan2-java libxslthl-java xalan gnupg-doc parcimonie
  xloadimage isoquery djvulibre-bin finger icoutils libcanberra-pulse sound-theme-freedesktop nas libcanberra-gtk0 libchromaprint-tools
  python-acoustid firmware-crystalhd libenchant-voikko exiv2 fam freerdp-x11 gpgsm gpm libvisual-0.4-plugins gstreamer-codec-install
  gnome-codec-install gstreamer1.0-tools iodbc hspell libqca2-plugin-cyrus-sasl libqca2-plugin-gnupg libqca2-plugin-ossl
  libqt4-declarative-folderlistmodel libqt4-declarative-gestures libqt4-declarative-particles libqt4-declarative-shaders qt4-qmlviewer
  libqt4-dev libicu52 qt4-qtconfig raptor2-utils rasqal-utils librdf-storage-postgresql librdf-storage-mysql librdf-storage-sqlite
  librdf-storage-virtuoso redland-utils media-player-info phonon-backend-gstreamer phonon-backend-mplayer pinentry-doc sgml-base-doc
  perlsgml w3-recs opensp virtuoso-minimal videolan-doc libdvdcss2 gvfs-bin debhelper
Recommended packages:
  fonts-dejavu enchant gstreamer1.0-plugins-base hunspell-en-us hunspell-dictionary myspell-dictionary libkactivities-bin libqt4-sql-mysql
  libqt4-sql-odbc libqt4-sql-psql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-sql-sqlite2 libqt4-sql-ibase udisks2 upower vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-samba
  libfile-mimeinfo-perl libnet-dbus-perl libx11-protocol-perl x11-utils
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  aspell aspell-en dbus-x11 dictionaries-common docbook-xml docbook-xsl emacsen-common fonts-freefont-ttf gnupg-agent gnupg2 iso-codes
  kate-data katepart kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdoctools kshutdown liba52-0.7.4 libaa1
  libaspell15 libassuan0 libattica0.4 libaudio2 libavc1394-0 libbasicusageenvironment0 libcanberra0 libcddb2 libchromaprint0
  libclucene-core1 libcrystalhd3 libdbusmenu-qt2 libdca0 libdirectfb-1.2-9 libdlrestrictions1 libdvbpsi9 libebml4 libenchant1c2a
  libexiv2-13 libfaad2 libfam0 libfreerdp-cache1.1 libfreerdp-client1.1 libfreerdp-codec1.1 libfreerdp-common1.1.0 libfreerdp-core1.1
  libfreerdp-crypto1.1 libfreerdp-gdi1.1 libfreerdp-locale1.1 libfreerdp-primitives1.1 libfreerdp-rail1.1 libfreerdp-utils1.1 libgles1-mesa
  libgles2-mesa libgpgme++2 libgpgme11 libgpm2 libgroupsock1 libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0 libgstreamer1.0-0 libhunspell-1.3-0 libilmbase6
  libiodbc2 libiso9660-8 libkactivities6 libkate1 libkatepartinterfaces4 libkcmutils4 libkde3support4 libkdeclarative5 libkdecore5
  libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkfile4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkio5 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4
  libkmediaplayer4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkparts4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkrosscore4 libksba8 libktexteditor4
  libkutils4 libkxmlrpcclient4 libldb1 liblivemedia23 libltdl7 libmad0 libmatroska6 libmhash2 libmng1 libmodplug1 libmpcdec6 libmpeg2-4
  libnepomuk4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomukutils4 libnl-3-200 libnl-route-3-200 libntdb1 libntrack-qt4-1 libntrack0 libopenexr6 libphonon4
  libplasma3 libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libpolkit-qt-1-1 libpostproc52 libproxy-tools libproxy1 libpth20
  libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpython2.7 libqca2 libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative libqt4-designer libqt4-network libqt4-opengl
  libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-sql libqt4-svg libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtcore4 libqtdbus4 libqtgui4 libqtwebkit4
  libraptor2-0 librasqal3 librdf0 libresid-builder0c2a libsdl-image1.2 libsdl1.2debian libshine3 libshout3 libsidplay2 libsmbclient
  libsolid4 libsoprano4 libspeexdsp1 libssh-gcrypt-4 libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libsysfs2 libtag1-vanilla libtag1c2a libtalloc2 libtdb1
  libtevent0 libthreadweaver4 libtwolame0 libupnp6 libusageenvironment1 libutempter0 libva-drm1 libvcdinfo0 libvlc5 libvlccore8
  libvncclient0 libvorbisfile3 libwbclient0 libwebp5 libwinpr-crt0.1 libwinpr-crypto0.1 libwinpr-dsparse0.1 libwinpr-environment0.1
  libwinpr-file0.1 libwinpr-handle0.1 libwinpr-heap0.1 libwinpr-input0.1 libwinpr-interlocked0.1 libwinpr-library0.1 libwinpr-path0.1
  libwinpr-pool0.1 libwinpr-registry0.1 libwinpr-rpc0.1 libwinpr-sspi0.1 libwinpr-synch0.1 libwinpr-sysinfo0.1 libwinpr-thread0.1
  libwinpr-utils0.1 libxcb-composite0 libxcb-keysyms1 libxcb-randr0 libxcb-xv0 libxml2-utils libxslt1.1 libyajl2 libzvbi-common libzvbi0
  ntrack-module-libnl-0 oxygen-icon-theme phonon phonon-backend-vlc pinentry-gtk2 plasma-scriptengine-javascript python-talloc qdbus
  qtchooser qtcore4-l10n samba-libs sgml-base sgml-data soprano-daemon vlc vlc-data vlc-nox vlc-plugin-pulse xdg-utils xml-core
0 upgraded, 225 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

replay: 0 upgraded, 225 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

I'm better staying with sudo shutdown or do not exclude the possibility of installing policykit-1. Afterall i used previously on Debian jesssie and i was pretty happy. policykit-1 wants to install only 6 packages in the end. Good solution looks to me.

Yeah... I just tried sudo shutdown and it worked. I will just say, ignore all my kshutdown comments, sudo shutdown is better. hehe.

zapper · Devuan

Nili wrote:

zapper wrote:
also I should add, the 4.9 kernel is still supported, 3.16 one is NOT supported.
As long there is support for Jessie which will last until 2020. The kernel 3.16 does not have to be excluded from updates (security at least).
Indeed good news regarding speeding up the stretch release.

Yes Although it is actually june 17th not 16th. my bad. hehe.

as for kernel 3.16, it is supported by debian perhaps, but just them.

zapper · Hardware & System Configuration

smoki wrote:

zapper wrote:
KShutdown is flawless for ascii.
Flawlessness is not a problem there, just unbelievable too much uneeded bloatness there
PC hardware have poweroff/restart buttons, these are simple buttons - you press that usually just with one finger and it did the job.
So why in the hell someone needed 500+ packages on top of basic system, just to provide same functionality with that KShutdown

well it's the only way I have found to shut it down until they fix the issue that doesn't let the menu shutdown option work.

I will look for other ways though if you wish... to add to this list. heh.

zapper · Devuan

This is good news for us too, as long as we remove that horrid systemd, which I know you intend to remove.

we can have the latest packages of debian, without the lack of stability, security issues, and other junk from systemd.

I am looking forward to devuan ascii becoming stable. till then, I will wait and enjoy what I have now.

Thank you devs for deciding to fork debian. by the way.

also I should add, the 4.9 kernel is still supported, 3.16 one is NOT supported.

zapper · News & Announcements

MiyoLinux wrote:

YEA!!! Congratulations and thank you!!!
https://devuan.org/os/debian-fork/stabl … nce-052517

Now if only they can make ascii more stable.

ah yes, I look forward to that. Thankfully, they probably are working on it now due to devuan jessie being stable now.

zapper · Other Issues

greenjeans wrote:

FOSSuser wrote:
I think it is 'designed' to be faulty, so that RH can sell you a support contract/package & make money out of Linux.
Well that is the Microsoft system for success, just look at the AWESOME and ginormous support/antivirus/repair industry they spawned.
You can really see the commercialism shine when they wax poetic about "branding" and removing configuration options so all the dumb people will finally HAVE TO DO IT THEIR WAY WHICH IS OF COURSE THE RIGHT WAY!

I would love it if our schools did this:

Teacher: okay class what is proprietary software good for?

Class: SPYWARE!

Teacher: That's Correct!

ah well, one can dream... heh.

zapper · Installation

golinux wrote:

supusr wrote:
Could I change these sources somehow to perform a conversion to devuan ascii? If so, what would the process be?
I don't think it's possible to go from stretch to ASCII. The upgrade feature was only intended for going from Debian Wheezy or Jessie to Devuan Jessie. I think ASCII will require a new install.

Yep, I learned that the hard way... my computer went off and I had to reinstall...

zapper · Hardware & System Configuration

Not quite there are other repos. I use jxself.org because it is good for debian based ones, including devuan and trisquel.

personally I would love to see trisquel have no systemd just like devuan (trisquel 8 is based off of ubuntu 16.04 which has systemd.)

So I guess the better way to put it is, to remain systemd-free.

zapper · Hardware & System Configuration

golinux wrote:

Discussion here: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=606 Why not download from here https://linux-libre.fsfla.org/ ? Be careful with third party repos . . .

The repo I mentioned works with devuan also. so its of no issue what I mentioned.

I am now running on that kernel.

zapper · Hardware & System Configuration

https://jxself.org/linux-libre/

is where I would download the linux libre kernel.

It works on trisquel and debian so I wondered if it works on devuan as well...

zapper · Installation

Max_B wrote:

Thanks golinux
Don't worry, I'm well aware of potential issues of backporting or mixing repos/distros. I currently use Ascii because in Debian I've always used the "testing" branch, and in my sources.list there are only the auto.mirror.devuan.org lines + the local dir with some debs I build from upstream source (eg Avidemux and some other which are only on deb-multimedia.org and thus not available in Debian). I was just curious about the additional repository listed in sources.list.d/devuan.list and its role, but now having seen it cited in the discussion on dng about apulse somehow clarified it to me.

I used stretch on debian like four months ago and now I am using ascii and from here on out, no systemd for me!

zapper · Installation

tompravi wrote:

I'll try this or I'll transfer my laptop close to router so as to establish wire connection. The second seems more easy. Anyway,
It should not make the announcement for the stable edition, as debian didn't use this behavior. Now it's like experimental. I have to tell you I'm disappointed from the devuan project.
PS. I'm user of debian. But when I tried the Devual rc2 I was impressed. So I decided to try the stable one.

I use the devuan ascii. Almost no problems for me.

I am not sure though, you may have a less freedom friendly computer. yours might need blobs to work. That can make a huge impact.

I do not trust anything with intel me still on it. or any backdoor of that sort.

zapper · Hardware & System Configuration

smoki wrote:

Cool, anyway for adding keys of this repo to cite:
https://software.opensuse.org/download. … oud-client
For Debian 8.0 run the following as root:
echo 'deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ivaradi/Debian_8.0/ /' > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nextcloud-client.list 
apt-get update
apt-get install nextcloud-client
You can add the repository key to apt. Keep in mind that the owner of the key may distribute updates, packages and repositories that your system will trust (more information). To add the key, run:
wget -nv http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:ivaradi/Debian_8.0/Release.key -O Release.key
apt-key add - < Release.key
apt-get update

even better! now I can upgrade it when needed!

hehe...

SOLVED IN FULL!

zapper · News & Announcements

This is a good thing to sticky.

zapper · Hardware & System Configuration

FOSSuser wrote:

Welcome aboard.
That bit of info about GPT & Grub not liking each other is useful info; there is someone trying to install another distro on an old machine, & that could be their problem. If I come across their post again, I'll mention it.

It depends on the old system, I am currently using an x200 with some custom changes to it, (libreboot ftw!)

so yeah...

this machine is eight or more years old.

I guess my point is, it depends on how old/how easily it can be reverse engineered.

zapper · Hardware & System Configuration

Now I have only one problem remaining, the key isn't being accepted. and I am not sure why...

but it gives this error.

W: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org/repositori … Debian_9.0 Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 97E98EAFE52838E6
E: The repository 'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ivaradi//Debian_9.0 Release' is not signed.
E: Failed to download some files

I am using ascii so debian 9 version is no doubt needed

I don't really import keys with command line... that would be why. heh.

Edit: I did it manually and it worked. so thanks for giving me the link.

gdebi did the job pretty well.

zapper · Hardware & System Configuration

ln: failed to create symbolic link '/usr/lib64/libnextcloudsync.so.0': File exists

happens when I used,

ln -s /usr/local/lib64/libnextcloudsync.so.0 /usr/lib64/libnextcloudsync.so.0

so knowing this, I wondered if anyone here knows a fix

I wouldn't know where to begin. I am intermediate but I am by no means an expert at gnu/linux.

zapper · Hardware & System Configuration

KShutdown works well for shutting down the system even in devuan ascii.

its the only app from the devuan repo which works for me in ascii for shutting down system.

zapper · Hardware & System Configuration

this error I keep getting when I go to run nextcloud through terminal emulator stays with me no matter what...

nextcloud: error while loading shared libraries: libnextcloudsync.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

this error was easily squashed in debian but not devuan...

whether it is debian 8 or debian 9... same result.

devuan jessie and ascii not so much...

can anyone tell me how to squash it?

owncloud doesn't have this error suspiciously... that I know of...

SOLVED! thank you!

The officially official Devuan Forum!

#1001 Hardware & System Configuration » How does one remove libsystemd0 on testing? » 2017-06-11 00:39:21

#1002 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown and root passsword » 2017-06-02 22:08:51

#1003 Re: Devuan » Good news, debian stretch will be stable in less than a month. » 2017-06-02 21:56:07

#1004 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown and root passsword » 2017-06-02 17:36:32

#1005 Re: Devuan » Good news, debian stretch will be stable in less than a month. » 2017-06-02 17:34:53

#1006 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown and root passsword » 2017-06-02 17:28:14

#1007 Devuan » Good news, debian stretch will be stable in less than a month. » 2017-06-02 00:31:55

#1008 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 Stable LTS is here!!! » 2017-06-02 00:20:21

#1009 Re: Other Issues » What is the easiest way to install systemd? » 2017-06-02 00:15:57

#1010 Re: Installation » [Solved] Conversion from Debian Stretch to Devuan Ascii » 2017-06-02 00:11:55

#1011 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Is It safe to use linux libre on devuan ascii or devuan jessie? » 2017-05-31 21:41:57

#1012 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Is It safe to use linux libre on devuan ascii or devuan jessie? » 2017-05-31 02:04:30

#1013 Hardware & System Configuration » Is It safe to use linux libre on devuan ascii or devuan jessie? » 2017-05-30 13:45:41

#1014 Re: Installation » /etc/apt/sources.list.d/devuan.list » 2017-05-30 13:40:43

#1015 Re: Installation » Unsuccessful installation! » 2017-05-30 13:37:44

#1016 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Has anyone here installed nextcloud from source successfully? SOLVED! » 2017-05-30 13:34:02

#1017 Re: News & Announcements » Can't register because you are a 'spammer'? » 2017-05-30 01:58:28

#1018 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Hey, I don't need help! » 2017-05-30 01:53:12

#1019 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Has anyone here installed nextcloud from source successfully? SOLVED! » 2017-05-30 01:22:30

#1020 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Has anyone here installed nextcloud from source successfully? SOLVED! » 2017-05-29 14:18:38

#1021 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Shutdown and root passsword » 2017-05-29 02:01:38

#1022 Hardware & System Configuration » Has anyone here installed nextcloud from source successfully? SOLVED! » 2017-05-29 00:44:14

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