Good review by distrowatch for Crowz.

http://distrowatch.org/weekly.php?issue=20231009#crowz

what is the output of below command, you should not need xorg wrapper.

ps -ef | grep seatd

Thanks, i will give this some thought over the weekend. It would be nice to turn this windows 11 machine into a Devuan stable one. I already know how to get the best sound and video out of it, its definitely gnu/linux friendly as it can run ubuntu as a factory option, not that i would subject myself to such a thing.

How did you try to delete the folder, what command did you use.

I used devuan testing/daedalus from mid last year to when it went stable and had no any issues, if i did they were probably my own fault. I think you will find there are quite a few users who go the testing/unstable route.

Same process, this time maybe the icons are in /home/<your user>/.icons so let us know the output of below command first before we remove any files.

ls -al ~/.icons

Looks like you are logging is a root?

I think it all depends on what you want to install and how you want to use testing and or unstable branches. Bleeding edge can be an issue from time to time, especially anything to do with gnome and kde desktop environments. I prefer setting up minimal desktop environments using bleeding edge branches, for example simple window managers like openbox and dwm and add tried and true software to them, learning how the x window system works to make full use of it instead of using 3rd party programs and the like. Just my take, its not a one size fits all and many issues might arise from the core components of devuan and debian like libc and xorg that could break a system using unstable and testing.

Try the command like so

rm -rf ~/.themes/WhiteSur-Light

EDIT: dont use sudo, no need.

I can confirm vt switching with startx is working for me now using that experimental package. I made a new install, used "NO" non free firmware or software, added contrib and the experimental repos. There is some lag exiting the session by about 5 - 10 seconds, not sure what that is about but happens on jwm and icewm.

Machine = virtualbox amd64 (VirtualBox Graphical User Interface Version 7.0.10 r158379)
Window Manager = icewm and jwm
Devuan version 5 Daedalus

starting icewm via $HOME/.xinitrc as per below.

xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources &
xrandr --output Virtual-1 --mode 1920x1200 &
(sleep 2s && exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session icewm) &

Hope that helps, let me know if you need any files from the VM etc, im new to testing.

I see what you did there, lol

Still under 1GB which is pretty damn good imo. I couldnt download the iso yesterday, sourceforge was acting up, would download 50 or so mb's and fail. Tried a few mirrors and had the same issue. Will try again tonight.