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#76 Re: Installation » devuan installation boot but not works !!!! » 2019-10-30 04:31:54

sbug wrote:

can you teach me how to check the X11 logs what do i have to do or search exactly?

/var/log/Xorg.0.log

You can share it via pastebin or similar service. I would also recommend to move existing file to another place or remove it before the next X11 startup. New log will contain only necessary information.

#77 Re: Installation » devuan installation boot but not works !!!! » 2019-10-29 05:42:04

sbug wrote:

ToxicExMachina, i was actully thinking about this, because in the past i had a lot to deal with display manager, i have also supposed that maybe, the computer see 2 monitors, but when i tried to get into shell with f1 login login poweroff (all whitout screen view), nothing happened) . So i was thinking to try to install by the Minimal-CD, that is the only one i can get working ( more or less, only a little problem with repository, but i should solve it).
So please can you tell me how to install the system without display manager? normally i did this by installing mini.iso, is there another way that i can get it, modifying the file.iso or get into the shell during the installation? please tell me. thanks
or just install via netboot whitaut any software ??? like  mini.iso

My laptop specs...
model HP Compaq tc4400

The main idea is to check X11 startup. If console works fine then the problem may be caused by display manager. To install system without DM you shouldn't choose the desktop target then install X11 with WM or DE manually. Another way is to remove DM after successful installation. You'l able to run X11 with simple startx command. You can also try to check X11 logs. May be there is something wrong with videodriver.

As for laptop model I think Devuan should work properly out of box. I use Devuan on Thinkpad X230t. It's similar laptop with integrated wacom tablet. Everything works out of box even in console without X11 (including stylus pen).

#78 Re: Installation » devuan installation boot but not works !!!! » 2019-10-28 08:16:39

Try to install system without display manager and run X11 via startx command.
Laptop model and hardware specs will be helpful to find the reason of the problem.

#79 Re: Off-topic » Websites with Arguments against systemd » 2019-10-17 18:19:49

https://hackaday.com/2019/10/16/pack-yo … -new-home/

In addition to user and user-based system management, the home directory itself will be linked to it as a LUKS encrypted container — and this is where the interesting part comes, even if you don’t see a need for a unified configuration place: the encryption is directly coupled to the user login itself, meaning not only is the disk automatically decrypted once the user logs in, it is equally automatic encrypted again as soon as the user logs out, locks the screen, or suspends the device. In other words, your data is inaccessible and secure whenever you’re not logged in, while the operating system can continue to operate independently from that.

It sounds like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CryptoLocker

#80 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » (Ascii) second monitor not recognized / graphics card AMD RX560 » 2019-10-11 16:59:29

PedroReina wrote:
kapqa wrote:

still not sure how to go on with the Desktop Environment; ... KDE + LXQT is certainly a interesting match

Have you tried Trinity? It is in my "to try" list.

I use TDE on a daily basis. It's pretty comfortable and full featured DE even today because KDE and GNOME didn't evolve at all and nobody made anything else comparable with TDE.

#81 Re: Installation » dual boot setup question » 2019-10-08 04:39:56

zfawaz wrote:

I tried doing that grub command with os-prober installed. Wierd thing is after I tried it. I didn't see anything new pop up after restarting the computer.

If it doesn't work (update-grub should add every OS into boot menu) you can try to setup dual boot manually: https://unix.stackexchange.com/question … -grub-menu

#82 Re: Installation » dual boot setup question » 2019-10-04 07:34:32

Just use update-grub command with os-prober installed.

#83 Re: Installation » It is possible to install devuan on the new laptop pinebook pro ??? » 2019-09-28 07:55:46

If you have working kernel then there is no problem to install Devuan. You just have to create root filesystem from ARM packages. You can use debootstrap for that.

#84 Re: Devuan » Debian considering going systemd init only » 2019-09-23 08:25:41

I don't see any trouble in that because it's not so hard to maintain existing sysv-rc scripts and make new ones. It will be also fatal decision for Debian because someone will make easy to use tool for generating an initscript for any daemon. Dropping other kernels (kFreeBSD and HURD) will also force developers to work with Devuan instead of Debian.

The real problem is inevitable death of Debian in case of keeping SystemD. The aim of SystemD is RedHat ecosystem. Everything which is not RH-based thing is under attack because SystemD is open source proprietary software (OSPS).

#85 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » poor sound quality - scratchy » 2019-09-23 08:13:39

Try to remove pulseaudio. At least it worked for me.

#86 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Undervolting my CPU » 2019-09-19 04:55:16

cpupower is just a simple tool for changing kernel power management settings. You can do the same and more with TLP.

As for CPU undervolting you can also check Coreboot. May be you will find some options for undervolting but i never heard about that on thinkpads.

#87 Re: Devuan » Devuan dual monitor strange problem. » 2019-09-18 04:59:55

devuanuser wrote:

Nope, CLEAN install downloaded from Devuan

All I did extra after install is
apt update
apt upgrade

Thats all.

I am not at that terminal right now when I get there I will post all the details.
I will see if I can make a video, it is really curious to see ..

Did you try to check filesystem?

fsck /dev/your_partition

Did you try different DE or even WM?

#88 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Undervolting my CPU » 2019-09-18 04:51:38

Are you sure you need undervolting? AFAIK it's impossible without corresponding motherboard firmware. If you want to increase battery life you just need to set lower cpu frequency. The "cpupower" command will help. For example, the following commands will set cpu frequency to 1200MHz (i think it's minimal frequency for cpu installed in T420):

cpupower frequency-set -g performance
cpupower frequency-set -u 1200MHz

It works with intel_pstate power management.

Another important tweak for higher battery life is the backlight brightness. You can also buy external powerbank or additional batteries for your laptop.

#89 Re: Devuan » Devuan dual monitor strange problem. » 2019-09-17 04:34:46

>I added a second monitor and configured it to have a second monitor that works as a separate desktop and not mirroring on latest Devuan.

1. Videocard?

2. Videodriver?

3. DE?

4. xrandr (arandr as GUI)?

#90 Re: Installation » firefox 52.9 esr » 2019-09-17 04:26:21

James1138 wrote:

SeaMonkey does not support Encrypted Media Extensions and therefore cannot load the Widevine Content Decryption Module. Firefox Quantum does support Encrypted Media Extensions so I think that is your most feasible option. If you already have a paid service like Netflix - you will be unable to watch it using SeaMonkey either.

That's a good example how netflix and similar services take hostages. By the way, such services runs miners on end user computers. If someone don't want third party miners the one can run virtual machine with proprietary components in guest system for netflix watching. It won't guarantee security and privacy but it's a step forward on the way of understanding the problem.

Most of people probably imagined cryptominers when i used the word "miners". However, cryptomining is datamining. Any datamining without permission of end user is wrong thing.

#91 Re: News & Announcements » Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed » 2019-09-09 04:36:30

I would recommend to install wicd instead of nm as a temporary solution. For WiFi and ethernet it will replace nm easily (wicd-cli, wicd-curses, wicd-gtk). I think in this case USB modem will be less easy to setup because i don't know suitable DE-agnostic GUI apps for that.

Anyway wicd is much better. Unlike nm, wicd doesn't screw serial i/o on random port, so if someone will use device with UART connection wicd won't cause any trouble.

#92 Re: Off-topic » Websites with Arguments against systemd » 2019-09-02 10:35:31

The main argument against SystemD is... SystemD is proprietary software.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-sou … point.html

When we call software “free,” we mean that it respects the users' essential freedoms: the freedom to run it, to study and change it, and to redistribute copies with or without changes. This is a matter of freedom, not price, so think of “free speech,” not “free beer.”

These freedoms are vitally important. They are essential, not just for the individual users' sake, but for society as a whole because they promote social solidarity—that is, sharing and cooperation. They become even more important as our culture and life activities are increasingly digitized. In a world of digital sounds, images, and words, free software becomes increasingly essential for freedom in general.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sof … nt.en.html

With free software, the users control the program, both individually and collectively. So they control what their computers do (assuming those computers are loyal and do what the users' programs tell them to do).

Even when proprietary software isn't downright malicious, its developers have an incentive to make it addictive, controlling and manipulative. You can say, as does the author of that article, that the developers have an ethical obligation not to do that, but generally they follow their interests. If you want this not to happen, make sure the program is controlled by its users.

Facts:
1. Most (or even 100%) of SystemD supporters don't care about libre software. They care about open source corporate valuables.
2. SystemD is addictive, controlling and manipulative project. Addiction, control and manipulation are the only motivations of SystemD development. This is how SystemD is violating principles of freedom.

In total: SystemD is open source but proprietary software.

#93 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Secure Boot » 2019-09-02 10:08:44

seeker wrote:

I was wondering if it is worthwhile to convert my traditional boot install to a UEFI boot install. Not sure if there are any advantages.

UEFI must die. That's all you need to know. The reason is: don't tie yourself to this defective technology. Overcomplication, vulnerability, malware-friendly environment, etc. - this is UEFI. If there will be no option but boot via UEFI it will be an inevitable evil - not a good thing.

#96 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » What games do you play on Devuan?? » 2019-08-29 08:20:42

czeekaj wrote:
ToxicExMachina wrote:

A lot of games from Steam via Proton/SteamPlay works fine (even those which doesn't work on windows anymore). The only thing is needed for now is to install recent Mesa and Vulkan drivers. Devuan is a good solution because Devuan Ceres has everything required for that.

This is interesting, considering with Nvidia. the Persistanced daemon is a hard dependency on Nvidia driver. Which does not even seem to work on devuan. Yet in debian it is not a dependency.

There are no such problems with AMD Radeon hardware wink

Nvidia is full of bugs and troubles. It has no even fully featured driver.

#97 Re: Off-topic » Marginalizing systemd » 2019-08-28 04:44:48

pj1967 wrote:

RHEL7 ... an embedded system

Sounds like "Certified LED blinker based on Arduino with blinking shield".

pj1967 wrote:

So, if one wanted to reduce systemd's functionality within a system that is, for all intensive purposes, an embedded system, what might be a way(s) to accomplish this?

You can try to replace init system manually. Yes, it may break most of RHEL in case of updates. But if customer want RHEL7 you can provide the solution he want. You can also try to talk with customer about it and give some recommendations. May be one will decide to use something else instead of RHEL. May be decision will be something like "We care only about RHEL certificate. So install 1 Tb DDR4 RGB Super Gaming RAM and a couple NVMe QLC SSD in RAID 0 as swap. It will be our embedded system.". I never seen embedded linux system with systemd in production. OpenWRT, for example, has own init system.

#98 Re: Other Issues » Does Beowolf use Wayland? » 2019-08-27 09:07:02

The reason why wayland is default graphical system in Debian is GNOME. GNOME has its own wayland display server hard-coded into DE. In GNOME project X Window System is now in deprecated state despite the fact wayland is just unable to work properly due to policies and protocol. In GNOME project X Window System is now in deprecated state despite the fact wayland is just unable to work properly due to policy and protocol. This is also the reason why maintainers are trying to remove perfectly working packages from Debian.

I think if GNOME won't be default DE nobody will ruin your stable and reliable X.org based GUI.

#99 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » A X neo-neophyte getting X running on Devuan 2.0... » 2019-08-27 08:48:05

VNC is slow garbage. RDP (and 100% of its implementations) is slow and ultimately vulnerable garbage which is promoted by micro$oft fanboys. If you need to run some X11 apps without dedicated desktop just use X11 Forwarding over ssh (ssh -X). If you need full multiuser remote desktop with low latency: use X2Go. Xpra can also be a good solution.

#100 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Blender 2.8 freezes the system. » 2019-08-27 08:40:12

Blender 2.8 is very buggy release. I recommend to wait a bit or send bugreports to the Blender project. And, of course, you have to list driver and mesa versions you tried to use with Blender.

penguin wrote:

I checked the Blender website. Apparently Blender 2.8 stops supporting old graphics cards which include Radeon HD 3000 unfortunately.

It's related only to the OpenGL version supported by driver and hardware.

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