No live versions in that list. No live, no dice. What I have now is far more up-to-date than that.

Okay, hot air, wow.

So exactly how can we help you find someone to build installer iso's? I'm happy to help if I can...

Seems a bit superfluous, it's like playing whack-a-mole at least until freeze since updates are pushed most every day, I have a working iso of it but it's full of bugs, and every time I fix one, 5 more pop up as soon as I update.

And I don't know who would have the patience to test installer iso's regularly with that gawdawful debian installer, especially when there are live-installers like Refracta that do in 10 minutes what the debian installer takes 2 hours to do...

Or even just providing the script. I like the way you think.

Might be an interesting project for a rainy day. I already have quite a few "dummy" folders and files on my system from other stuff. I think best way to go about it, might be to start with a very minimal system, install it in conventional fashion to a USB stick (i.e. NOT a "liveUSB"), boot the stick, then start the "dummying" process to see what you can get away with before it breaks. A lot of stuff can probably just be outright deleted, and some programs just want to see that a folder or file exists with a certain name or verify that the package is installed according to apt.

I might just do it myself, if I do i'll report back.

Known issue with some Internet Service Providers and DNS, there are some workarounds for some folks posted in various threads, in some cases changing router settings may work.

Alternate solution is to choose a different mirror in your /etc/apt/sources.list file.

Do a forum search on this issue and you'll find several threads about it. I'm using a different mirror (gnlug) and it's working fine for me.

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged/ daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware 

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged/ daedalus-updates main 

deb http://gnlug.org/pub/devuan/merged/ daedalus-security main 

^^^What dzz said.

Kinda confused here SpongeBOB, are you trying to make a liveUSB or are you trying to do a conventional install on a stick?

What live version?

Gparted: create new ms-dos partition table. Create fat32 main partition big enough to hold iso with some room to spare. Create 2nd partition in ext2 and name it "persistence. Then add boot flag to the first partition. done.

R2USB: use 01 or 02 first, I use 02 with the "findiso" option, finish that operation. It will want to install syslinux, let it do so. When done it will take you back to menu, then choose the option to create the persistence partition, run that, when it's done you are done, exit program.

You will be able to edit the boot entries and persistence.conf during the install or you can simply do it afterwards.

As fsmithred said, it greatly depends on what you used to create the liveUSB.

I would use Refracta2usb or Mintstick to get best results. Mintstick won't get you persistence, Refracta2usb will.

There is also iso-master, but i've never tried it so have no idea if that would work for your scenario.

Is this the proper section of the forum for this discussion? In Devuan Derivatives?

Well the first main difference is Vuu-do is not really a distro per se`, it's more of a personal project that I share on the internet. It's how I build systems for myself and family and friends. Crunchbang was a huge influence for me and I was sad to see it go, it was nice that other folks forked it and carried on, but they just weren't the same.

Second main difference is purely size, have a look at my projects, the difference is really stark in the older versions. I strip all translations out of Vuu-do, and I mean in a scorched-earth way most people can't even fathom taking the time to do, I even strip them out of .desktop files and places like the polkit-1 rules files, 10's of thousands of lines of code I removed by hand. Also everything in /usr/share/doc, docbase, bug, lintian, help, info, metainfo etc. etc. Extra icon packs get deleted, most of the large SVG's are deleted, extra themes, some video tutorials, more superfluous image files within programs like Libre-office. I retain basically only the man pages for help and take out a lot of the assistive stuff too. I go through almost every folder and file in the entire system.

It takes forever, but in the end the system is 30-50% smaller than it would normally be, and runs a lot faster with lighter resource usage.

The original versions back in 2017 were only 350 mb for the mini, and 560 for the max, goal was to keep them under 700 mb so they would fit on a CD. These days it's almost impossible to do that without removing a lot of the functionality. The 2018 max version even included all the firmware in the repo and every printer driver and firmware available for printing.

I really feel like my Openbox versions are some of the easiest to use of any Openbox versions made, i've done a lot of work to connect all the dots and make it feel and act like a dedicated DE like Mate or KDE.

Still my new versions are quite a bit smaller than most these days yet are very functional and nice looking (I think), and still very easy on resources and run fast even on old hardware, they are all built on my old 2012 Compaq laptop witha tiny dual-core APU at 1.00 ghz.

But a real distro includes all the docs and help files and translations, so that's why my stuff is just a project, an interesting take on what can be done about bloat that doesn't ever get used by most end-users.

Microcrap employee dumps garbage code into the linux kernel.......just wondering who did it, perhaps somebody with the initials L.P. ?