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#551 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Fujitsu Lifebook U728 + Devuan 4 » 2023-11-06 19:51:47

What I always do nowadays: I use the netinstall just to install the basic system utilities, I do not install any DE, they are getting ticked off, or I do not use a mirror or pull the LAN cable, all the same effect.

Then I go and install xorg, lightdm and mate or cinnamon with the option --no-install-recommends. This bring a bare desktop. Then I add what I think I will need with apt.

#552 Re: Devuan » A report about systemd on linuxnews.de » 2023-11-06 19:12:46

Its enough to install the Virtualbox package. Mostly everything required is installed automagically. Exception: you will need build-essential, dkms and headers to build the VBox modules, and you have to add 3 lines to /etc/modules.

You are right, there are VBox scripts in /etc/init.d. In my long experience I never had to fool with these scripts in any way.

#553 Re: Installation » Install from Ventoy » 2023-11-06 16:19:54

To make sure the latest version is on the stick finally? And that does not change the issue with the Daedalus media?

#554 Re: Installation » Install from Ventoy » 2023-11-05 17:49:55

Updated my Ventoj to 1.0.96 and also tried the server and the desktop iso, all the same.

#555 Re: Devuan » A report about systemd on linuxnews.de » 2023-11-04 14:13:44

nahkhiirmees wrote:

I guess distros with systemd work in a sense that i can run firefox and vlc and virtualbox and stuff like that.
But i'm not fully convinced it is a way to go. On the other hand i sometimes wonder if all those scripts related to sysvinit are absolutely necessary, could you do things another way instead? Make init or inittab do the jobs of those rc-scripts somehow?

There is no need for any init script for simple applications like firefox(-esr), libreoffice, vlc, virtualbox ....

#556 Re: Devuan » A report about systemd on linuxnews.de » 2023-11-04 14:10:38

zapper wrote:

Virtualbox requires systemd, if I recall correctly... that I know of...

That is not correct. I am using VBox now for so many years, I can't really tell how long. And I have always used the package supplied by https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads. On Devuan no issues with systemd all along from ASCII to Excalibur.

#557 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How to set default desktop? » 2023-11-04 14:07:20

LightDM is a good choice. I am using it on Mate or Cinnamon since many years now.

#558 Re: Installation » Install from Ventoy » 2023-11-02 21:55:30

May I add a few lines (on Ventoj 1.0.94 from July this year):

What snork describes is what happens with legacy boot of Ventoj/Devuan.

All in efi mode, netinstalls:
5.0.0 normal mode I just get an _ and have to use the Reset button.
5.0.0 grub mode: no bootfile found for efi

5.0.1 normal mode: the first menu comes up ok, can select expert install, end in the mount cdrom scenario described before.
5.0.1 grub mode: have to repeat the test, can't decipher my scribbling no bootfile found for efi

Strangely enough grub mode produces an efi error.

An old preview dated 220523 in normal mode boots to the Choose Language screen, same as older releases. Same for Debian 12.1. Others like gparted life 1.5.0-1, mint 21.1 ... work fine.

Edith: added the 5.0.1 grub mode test

#559 Re: Installation » Install from Ventoy » 2023-11-02 15:05:56

Well, currently neither Bookworm nor Daedalus (5.0.0 and 5.0.1) will run from a Ventoj stick ok. There have been changes in the graphics that are incompatible with Ventoj.

I have seen a claim that using the grub-mode might be a workaround, haven't tried it yet.

Older versions are fine.

Edith: My mistake, confused Bookworm behaviour on Ventoj with boot issue in Virtual Box and efi mode. Bookworm works fine from Ventoj.

#560 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How to set default desktop? » 2023-11-02 13:54:23

I am using Cinnamon with Lighdm, no other DE installed. Then the default is Cinnamon. Haven't changed or configured anything. Is so by installation.

#561 Re: Installation » Multiboot help » 2023-10-23 18:18:40

Some comments to a dual boot with Windows.

First: Windows should be installed first and sets the boundary conditions for the partitioning scheme of the system disk. Legacy install means MBR partitioning, UEFI install means GPT partitioning. Valid for Win7 and newer. My advise for going on to use XP: copy it into a VM.

Second: Linux systems don't care about MBR or GPT, legacy and efi, installation is possible in any combination. But side conditions do apply:
- for a legacy install on a GPT disk you will need a bios-grub partition with no file system on it.
- an uefi installation requires an esp. Size somewhere from 128M to 512M if you are generous, FAT32 as file system is mandatory, best is if its the first partition on the disk, esp flag set.

Some side effect of the os-prober: it can't find other encrypted Linux installations. Manual work is required to add such a system into grub.

#562 Re: Installation » Multiboot help » 2023-10-23 18:01:52

Nope, you have to enable os-prober past the first boot of the installed Devuan. And there is no need to hope, it will work as a charm when enabled. It simply works when enabled.

BTW to set the mind right: Devuan is a Debian w/o systemd. You may find a list of banned packages on the Devuan webpage. Where appropriate or required, the Devuan team has developed replacements. All the rest is Debian.

Edith: forgot to mention, the decision to disable os-prober per default was a Debian decision.

#563 Re: Installation » Multiboot help » 2023-10-23 17:12:03

WDstudios wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

Edit /etc/default/grub to enable (un-disable) os-prober.

Uh, how?

You know how to call up a console? And how to gain superuser rights? Here is a rough guideline:

$ su -
# cd /etc/default
# nano grub
# update-grub

#564 Re: Devuan » Installed Daedalus! » 2023-10-14 15:22:15

I guess you may have to look into the difference between using su and su - for getting root access. This is a feature that was inherited from Debian a while ago.

You may need to use su -.

#565 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] How to Choose X11 and not Wayland at Boot » 2023-10-12 16:57:38

Which Login Manager are you using? LightDM, sddm, something else? The Login Manager should give the choice.

#566 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Wireles-regdb. » 2023-10-08 15:20:58

On my Daedalus amd64 workstation:

# apt-cache rdepends wireless-regdb
wireless-regdb
Reverse Depends:
  linux-image-6.1.0-10-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-9-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-7-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-6-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-5-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-3-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-2-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-1-amd64
  linux-image-6.0.0-6-amd64
  linux-image-6.0.0-5-amd64
  linux-image-6.0.0-4-amd64
  linux-image-5.17.0-1-amd64
  linux-image-6.4.0-0.deb12.2-rt-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.4.0-0.deb12.2-rt-amd64
  linux-image-6.4.0-0.deb12.2-cloud-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.4.0-0.deb12.2-cloud-amd64
  linux-image-6.4.0-0.deb12.2-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.4.0-0.deb12.2-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-12-rt-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-12-rt-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-12-cloud-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-12-cloud-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-12-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-12-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-11-rt-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-11-rt-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-11-cloud-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-11-cloud-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-11-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-11-amd64
  network-manager
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-rt-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-rt-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-cloud-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-cloud-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-13-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-10-rt-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-10-rt-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-10-cloud-amd64-unsigned
  linux-image-6.1.0-10-cloud-amd64
  linux-image-6.1.0-10-amd64-unsigned
  iw
  iwd

#567 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Wireles-regdb. » 2023-10-08 13:47:38

This database isn't present on my main computer (only LAN), but on my laptop its installed as well in Chimaera as Daedalus.

If I am not mistaken the wireless-regdb is installed with wifi drivers and firmware as a dependency. At least this was happening when installing the laptop. I guess there are dependencies.

#568 Re: Other Issues » What ISO for an Any-OS-Boot HDD? » 2023-10-07 09:07:24

A Ventoj stick can boot both legacy and efi and displays its mode on the splash screen.

#570 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] ntfs not mounting » 2023-10-06 08:19:49

Well, strange. When posting the fuse hint I forgot that the old fuse has been replaced by fuse3.

Its working here on my workstation with fuse3 and ntfs-3g, no kernel modules.

#572 Re: Installation » Dual Screens Daedalus » 2023-10-04 15:12:37

unanswered wrote:

... I have 'non-free contrib' instead of 'contrib non-free' ...

The order is irrelevant, most likely you will need to add  non-free-firmware.

You should really read the linked thread to understand the background ...

#573 Re: Installation » Dual Screens Daedalus » 2023-10-04 11:33:56

May be simply due to an issue with the sources.list. New in Debian 12 Bookworm and in consequence in Devuan 5 Daedalus:

There is a new sub-repo called non-free-firmware. Look i.e. into this thread: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5688

#574 Re: Installation » Can't install wine-stable on devuan 5, dependency hell » 2023-10-04 07:18:23

Well, looked at the list of available packages at devuan.org. When I read that list correctly, wine-stable only exists in the jessie repo. Looking at the Debian SW repo, its also missing in bookworm.

On my PC running Daedalus I get:

# apt list wine*
Auflistung… Fertig
wine-binfmt/stable,stable 8.0~repack-4 all
wine32-preloader/stable 8.0~repack-4 i386
wine32-tools/stable 8.0~repack-4 i386
wine32/stable 8.0~repack-4 i386
wine64-preloader/stable 8.0~repack-4 amd64
wine64-tools/stable 8.0~repack-4 amd64
wine64/stable 8.0~repack-4 amd64
wine/stable,stable 8.0~repack-4 all
winetricks/stable,stable 20230212-2 all
# apt list wine-stable
Auflistung… Fertig

Don't know from where you got that package, its not from Daedalus. I you want to install wine, use wine or wine64. You may need to add i386 as architecture first to be able to run also 32bit software.

#575 Re: Off-topic » Hi all! Back again after many adventures! » 2023-10-02 19:47:27

To the technical side of things:
1.) Devuan/Debian can be installed in legacy or efi mode on MBR or GPT drives in any combination when Windows isn't involved. Well, some side conditions do apply here and there like for efi installs you will need an efi partition in any case ... but its your choice which way to go. On new drives I suggest to use GPT. Not to count partitions and care about logical drives really is some progress and much more logical.
2.) In your case do not use any automatism. Make sure you use manual partitioning. That way you can select exactly where to install Devuan. Though a backup never hurts when things go south by chance.
3.) I think when you add the existing swap partition the installer will format that again. AFAIK you don't have the choice not to do that. If that swap is used somewhere else you will have to modify the uuid in the fstab.

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