@ GNUser, thanks. forgot i was using zsh with grmls zshrc also. Switched back to bash and added /sbin/ to $PATH and all good.

I use setnet by KatolaZ https://github.com/KatolaZ/setnet

Using tint2 i tried out wifi-monitor and it works ok but it would be a nice added extra to have some form of tool-tip to show the essid, the script looks like it should have this but mouse hover for me over the icon reveals nothing. Is that a possibility already or something to be added perhaps?

Nice, thanks for sharing.

One gripe is the folder structure, is there a way you could just date one folder instead of 3 ?

Example

$HOME/.mote/notes/2019/10/06/0001

to

$HOME/.mote/notes/2019-10-06/0001

Come to think of it, i believe i may have only installed refracta10 test iso with no X not the nodbus version and then did the apt pinning later on for a no dbus. My other machine had the nodbus version so i was trying to emulate it or copy the configs over to the other one, thank for the info fsmithred.

I should have said devuan refracta10 nodbus as fsmithred mentions in previous post. Thanks for all your hard work fsmithred and team.

Few caveats for networking, cant use wicd or networkmanager so i just use wpa-supplicant instead, all the old network tools work fine you just have to know how to work them. I use openbox with obmenu-generator, lxdm seems to be fine and doesnt have a hard dependency on dbus as far as im aware so i use it to set the greeter. Firefox seems to be working ok as well.

init─┬─acpid
     ├─clipit───2*[{clipit}]
     ├─compton
     ├─conky───5*[{conky}]
     ├─cron
     ├─dhclient
     ├─exim4
     ├─6*[getty]
     ├─lxdm-binary─┬─Xorg───3*[{Xorg}]
     │             └─lxdm-session───openbox───ssh-agent
     ├─mdadm
     ├─ntpd───{ntpd}
     ├─pnmixer───{pnmixer}
     ├─rpc.idmapd
     ├─rpc.statd
     ├─rpcbind
     ├─rsyslogd───3*[{rsyslogd}]
     ├─sshd
     ├─tint2─┬─sh───firefox-esr─┬─2*[Web Content───22*[{Web Content}]]
     │       │                  ├─Web Content───16*[{Web Content}]
     │       │                  └─63*[{firefox-esr}]
     │       └─sh───lxterminal─┬─zsh───pstree
     │                         └─{lxterminal}
     ├─udevd
     ├─uuidd
     └─wpa_supplicant

Although dbus is not being used it does show up with a dpkg -l | grep dbus, but dbus and dbus-x11 are not installed so not sure what this is about?

~ % dpkg -l | grep dbus                                                    :(
rc  dbus                                 1.12.16-1+devuan2                   amd64        simple interprocess messaging system (daemon and utilities)
rc  dbus-x11                             1.12.16-1+devuan2                   amd64        simple interprocess messaging system (X11 deps)
ii  libdbus-1-3:amd64                    1.12.16-1+devuan2                   amd64        simple interprocess messaging system (library)
ii  libdbus-glib-1-2:amd64               0.110-4                             amd64        deprecated library for D-Bus IPC
ii  libdbusmenu-glib4:amd64              18.10.20180917~bzr490+repack1-1     amd64        library for passing menus over DBus
ii  libdbusmenu-gtk3-4:amd64             18.10.20180917~bzr490+repack1-1     amd64        library for passing menus over DBus - GTK-3+ version

What iso did you use?

Try to use usb pendrive with usb 3.0

If using ext4 filesystem....

Disabling access time update,

/etc/fstab

/dev/sdb1    /    ext4    defaults,noatime    0    1

Increase commit interval

/etc/fstab

/dev/sdb1   /    ext4    defaults,noatime,commit=60    0    1

Disable journal (not recommended)

# tune2fs -O "^has_journal" /dev/sdb1

what is your audio?

lspci -knn | grep "Audio"

Did you modify /etc/default/grub as ralph mentioned? Then update-grub ?

Hi newb here sort of, well i know my way around linux ok .

I did an lxde install of buster just the LXDE not the debian desktop environment, only chose standard system utils and lxde in tasksel.

Debian Install went fine, got to desktop and tried to install sysvinit-core but apt spat out below info. I was of the thought sysvinit-core should be installed first before anything else, would that be correct?

sudo apt-get install sysvinit-core
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 dconf-service : Depends: default-dbus-session-bus or
                          dbus-session-bus
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.

or should i have the devuan-keyring and devuan beowulf repos setup first then apt update / upgrade, commenting out the debian repos in sources.list ?

Apart from desktop environment i was able to migrate successfully on a netinstall with no X and just standard system utils, sysvinit-core installed fine but had to "echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger" to reboot then purge systemd.

so with a netinstall with no X,

1. install sysvinit-core
2. install devuan keyring
3. copy in beowulf sources.list and comment out debian sources.list
4. apt update and upgrade
5. echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger (reboot)
6 .purge systemd (apt remove systemd --purge).