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#3001 Re: Installation » No Grub menu » 2019-04-03 19:17:49

So is your machine actually booting with GRUB?

Install the boot-info-script package and run

/usr/sbin/bootinfoscript

Post the output here (using code tags) if you don't understand how to interpret it.

EDIT: corrected name of package.

#3002 Re: Installation » Which installer should I use? » 2019-04-03 19:13:25

The amd64 version should always be preferred (if the hardware supports it) because of the security advantage conferred by the NX bit and also a 32-bit system will not take advantage of the extra registers offered by the 64-bit CPU.

32-bit systems are limited to 4GiB of memory (regardless of PAE) but I am presuming that your machine doesn't have more than that.

#3003 Re: Other Issues » Error with Time » 2019-04-02 18:20:23

Upon further consideration:

cs_thebigboss wrote:

"The name org.freedesktop.timedate1 was not provided by any .service files."

That message appears to be referring to a systemd unit file, which won't be started in Devuan for obvious reasons.

See also https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,465.0.html

#3004 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » What games do you play on Devuan?? » 2019-04-02 18:04:06

Dungeon Crawl (Stone Soup): https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/ascii/ … 9.3-1.html

I've added the upstream repositories[1] to get the latest version smile

#3006 Re: Other Issues » Error with Time » 2019-04-02 06:11:57

Try

# dpkg-reconfigure tzdata

We don't need no stinkin' GUI...

#3007 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Editing /proc/acpi/wakeup » 2019-04-02 06:10:37

Rather than use acpitool you can echo the desired values into /proc/acpi/wakeup directly.

Found this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/152403/ … -permanent

#3008 Re: Devuan » Using Debian packages » 2019-04-02 06:03:04

ToxicExMachina wrote:

in system totally controlled by microsoft-friendly company (RedHat and Canonical are friends of microsoft) is not a good idea

Using Spotify is not a good idea but that's what the OP wants and IMO a sandboxed chroot is a better option than handing control of APT to the Spotify developers.

Oh, and RedHat, Cannonical and Microsoft are all contributors to the Linux kernel itself.

ToxicExMachina wrote:

AppImage has FireJail sandbox support.

All programs have firejail "support", that's not an intrinsic feature of AppImages.

ToxicExMachina wrote:

According to official website Spotify doesn't provide official flatpak builds.

I didn't claim otherwise, my question was are there any Spotify AppImages available at all?

ToxicExMachina wrote:

there is official deb repository.

Why do you think it is acceptable to hand the APT keys over to a proprietary company?

As I mentioned earlier, flatpak can be run without root permissions, which seems significantly safer to me.

#3009 Re: Devuan » What happened at devuan.org? » 2019-04-01 19:43:50

Ron wrote:

Read what I wrote again.

Oh yes, silly me. I'm tired smile

#3010 Re: Devuan » What happened at devuan.org? » 2019-04-01 19:12:19

Ron wrote:

So fooling people that use your product is "awesome"?

Fooling you is awesome, yes. You actually took time off work because of this? lol

Seriously d00d, chill out. Have some tea, that always helps me calm down.

#3011 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Editing /proc/acpi/wakeup » 2019-04-01 18:37:02

I could be wrong here but I think sysctl can only be used for settings under /proc/sys:

alpine:~$ sysctl acpi.wakeup
sysctl: cannot stat /proc/sys/acpi/wakeup: error code 2
alpine:~255$

So a startup script is the "correct" solution.

#3012 Re: Devuan » Using Debian packages » 2019-04-01 18:23:17

ToxicExMachina wrote:

Both flatpak and snap are EEE projects

And what has that to do with anything?

ToxicExMachina wrote:

AppImage is better

Well if that was the case then your previous statement would be false because the alternatives would lack the middle E...

In the case of flatpak the advantage is the sandbox provided by bubblewrap, it's not great security but it's better than nothing (which is what AppImages provide).

Also, do Spotify even provide an AppImage?

#3013 Re: Devuan » What happened at devuan.org? » 2019-04-01 18:17:07

Ron wrote:

Making your own website look like it was hacked?

That's what hackers back in the 90s used to do, these days they wouldn't change the homepage because that would give the game away and stop whatever malware they plant from being effective.

I though it was an awesome joke, the more so for all the people it apparently fooled lol

#3014 Re: Installation » No Grub menu » 2019-03-31 00:10:27

Does the GRUB menu appear if you (repeatedly) tap the <shift> key whilst the system is booting up?

If you have installed a non-UEFI system then you can check if GRUB is the bootloader by running

# dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | xxd

Then see if the "GRUB .Geom.Hard Disk.Read. Error" message appears in the right hand side output.

For a UEFI system, use

# efibootmgr

And check the names of the boot entries.

Or use the boot-info-script package (/usr/sbin/bootinfoscript) to investigate further.

If you're using GRUB then edit the GRUB_TIMEOUT setting in /etc/default/grub then run update-grub (as root) to change the timeout for the menu.[1]

Disclaimer: I have no idea how Devuan's bootloader is configured big_smile

#3016 Re: Devuan » Using Debian packages » 2019-03-30 16:06:09

FWIW, I agree and I don't use Spotify myself but apparently the OP does.

#3017 Re: Devuan » Using Debian packages » 2019-03-30 15:36:25

golinux wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

^ Well I couldn't find a snapd package in the Devuan repositories big_smile

That's because it's on the banned packages list.

Nice! Thanks for the info.

Panopticon wrote:

try a source build as yeti mentioned

I agree that would be the preferred option but Spotify do not supply source code, the spotify-client package is in their non-free repository component (which is the only component in their repositories) and it is a blob.

#3018 Re: Devuan » Using Debian packages » 2019-03-30 10:59:26

^ Well I couldn't find a snapd package in the Devuan repositories big_smile

But seriously, I don't think giving the Spotify developers the opportunity to mess up the dependency chain is a good idea.

flatpak may be a bloated pile of crap but at least it can be run without root privileges (with the --user flag) and it doesn't interfere with the package manager.

#3019 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Laptop AMD Graphics » 2019-03-30 10:56:27

Are you sure it's not listed anywhere in the plain lspci output?

Check the firmware ("BIOS") options to see if it can be enabled from there.

#3020 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Mate panel lockups » 2019-03-30 00:02:50

empty@thanatos:~ $ apt show elogind
[...]
Description: user, seat and session management daemon
 elogind is a session management daemon extracted from systemd project's
 "logind"

empty@thanatos:~ $

#3021 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Laptop AMD Graphics » 2019-03-30 00:00:26

UnclePa wrote:

"lspci | grep VGA"

How about

lspci | grep 'VGA\|3D'

#3022 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Beowulf update holds back packages » 2019-03-29 19:56:20

Erm, I don't speak German, sorry.

Try

LC_ALL=C aptitude full-upgrade

And keep saying "no" until it tells you there are no more solutions, thanks!

I don't have WINE installed so perhaps that's making a difference.

#3023 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Problem with Steam » 2019-03-29 19:54:01

UnclePa wrote:

I don't want to install 32-bit mesa-utils because it wants to uninstall my normal mesa-utils

Have you installed the 32-bit OpenGL libraries for your video card?

See the note on the Debian wiki page:

Debian wiki wrote:

Installing the 32-bit OpenGL libraries may uninstall the 64-bit drivers you may have previously installed. Installing the AMD graphics or NVIDIA graphics drivers for your system is recommended. The appropriate OpenGL library will be installed along with those drivers.

https://wiki.debian.org/Steam#A64-bit_s … 28amd64.29

Probably better to follow the instructions on that page rather than rely on synaptic.

#3024 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Beowulf update holds back packages » 2019-03-29 19:44:01

So does aptitude offer any other options if you refuse to keep the currently installed version?

What are your sources and have you updated the package database?

Here are mine:

empty@thanatos:~ $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list                            
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main contrib non-free
empty@thanatos:~ $

#3025 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Beowulf update holds back packages » 2019-03-29 19:35:36

Did you use full-upgrade?

If you refuse the first option it will suggest other solutions, keep going until it offers to remove libsystemd0 and upgrade the held packages.

When I tried it the first solution was to remove libsystemd0 but perhaps I have misremembered.

How did you upgrade from ascii to beowulf?

I think the recommended approach is to change the sources then use

# apt update
# apt-get upgrade
# apt-get dist-upgrade

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