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#2701 Re: Other Issues » Devuan + paralleized OpenRC + KDE » 2018-03-21 15:18:09

Also do not rely on information at  https://talk.devuan.org/ .  There should be a notice at the top of every page to "PROCEED WITH CAUTION".  It is there for a reason - the info is about a year old and may no longer be correct.

#2702 Re: Off-topic » how to force scrollbar buttons on all desktop themes [SOLVED] » 2018-03-20 21:40:24

I'm not sure quite what you're talking about.  But if it is those maddening disappearing scrollbars . . . I went through that doing the clearlooks-phenix-darkpurpy theme for ASCII.   This thread on the Xfce forum got me to a solution which is here.  If you're talking about something else, excuse the noise.   I think it's just a different way of skinning the cat.

#2704 Re: Other Issues » Looking for recent Version of Inkscape » 2018-03-17 22:55:16

fsmithred wrote:

When the repos were new, backports had the wrong priority. That's been fixed.

As I remember it . . . the first Valentine iso merged backports with the main Devuan repos.  That was a test to see how Amprolla would do with merging repos.  There was no way to comment it out so one had to be really careful about upgrading.  But not before I got bit.  I still have some bpo remnants on this system.  Everything is appropriately commented now.

#2705 Re: Other Issues » Looking for recent Version of Inkscape » 2018-03-17 20:18:48

msi wrote:
golinux wrote:

Yes, but don't install everything in backports - that could get you into big trouble.  Just download what you need and comment that repo again.

IIRC, you shouldn't actually have to deactivate the repo again, as nothing should be pulled from backports automatically, except for updates of those packages you've installed from that source. Maybe someone can confirm that.

That depends whether it's pinned or not.  If not pinned . . . oops.  I know from experience.  Someone else (fsmithred?) will have to provide the details.

#2707 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » how to make Thinkpad's Thinklight brighter? » 2018-03-17 03:50:18

Why not boot a live disk to eliminate Libreboot as the culprit?

#2708 Re: Other Issues » Looking for recent Version of Inkscape » 2018-03-15 17:29:46

Yes, but don't install everything in backports - that could get you into big trouble.  Just download what you need and comment that repo again.  There is also some magic that can be done with pinning but I don't know the details.  Maybe someone else will put it here.

#2709 Re: Devuan » ParrotSec OS, 'considered', switch to Devuan » 2018-03-14 21:51:48

stanz wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

You could start with a minimal install and add packages from the parrot package list...

That idea has been ringing-in-my-ears... smile
1 - Figure out howto get a beowulf-minimal-install, (modify jessie/ascii source.list?) or...

beowulf has appeared quietly in pkgmaster.  fsmithred has upgraded rather smoothly.  iirc there were no problems with openbox but there may be with other DEs.  Be prepared for breakage.  You would have to upgrade from ascii as there obviously are no beowulf isos yet.

#2710 Re: Other Issues » Looking for recent Version of Inkscape » 2018-03-14 20:27:29

Do not use Debian repos directly or ubuntu PPAs at all.  Look in Devuan backports for more recent versions

#2711 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » toggling hidden files in caja changes directory to /proc or / » 2018-03-14 17:07:23

There is order in the chaos of the universe.  Nice image BTW.

#2712 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » toggling hidden files in caja changes directory to /proc or / » 2018-03-14 16:44:35

GNUser wrote:

If I keep finding these annoying little bugs . . .

gnome2 was buggy out of the gate so no surprise . . .

#2713 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » toggling hidden files in caja changes directory to /proc or / » 2018-03-14 15:37:20

I never knew of that key control but just tried it and it works perfectly in Thunar.  Probably won't ever use it though because I am blind without seeing hidden files at all times.   The reason I moved on from gnome2 years ago were little bugs like that.

#2714 Documentation » apt-mirror config for a local Devuan repo » 2018-03-13 00:36:01

golinux
Replies: 14

Today, KatolaZ posted instructions for setting up a local mirror here.  Copied below for reference:

Dear D1rs,

Since we are talking of creating a local or LAN Devuan mirror, I
thought that posting a working configuration for apt-mirror could be
found useful. Please find at the bottom an example of what you should
have in your /etc/apt/mirrors.list in order to get a full local Devuan
repo for amd64, i386, and sources. You can use deb.devuan.org instead
of pkgmaster.devuan.org, if you like, or any of the package mirrors
listed at:

  https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt

Notice that the program apt-mirror must be executed by the user
"apt-mirror", who should have rwx access to the base_path specified in
the mirrors.list file. For more information, man apt-mirror

Useful information on setting up a Devuan package mirror can be found
at:

  https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mir … hrough.txt

If you want to setup a *public* Devuan package mirror instead, please
follow the instructions reported in the walkthrough and get in touch
as specified therein.

HTH

KatolaZ

  -+-+-+-

############# config ##################
#
# base_path is the local path where your mirror will be created
set base_path    /srv/apt-mirror
#
# set mirror_path  $base_path/mirror
# set skel_path    $base_path/skel
# set var_path     $base_path/var
# set cleanscript $var_path/clean.sh
# set defaultarch  <running host architecture>
# set postmirror_script $var_path/postmirror.sh
# set run_postmirror 0
set nthreads     20
set _tilde 0
#
############# end config ##############

# mirroring package sources
deb-src http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii main contrib non-free

# mirroring binary architectures
deb-amd64 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii main contrib non-free main/debian-installer
deb-i386  http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii main contrib non-free main/debian-installer
deb-amd64 http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan ascii main contrib non-free main/debian-installer
deb-i386  http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan ascii main contrib non-free main/debian-installer

# cleanup obsolete stuff
clean http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged

#2715 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] MiyoLinux Accessories website » 2018-03-11 21:40:51

MiyoLinux wrote:

Okay, I have all of the code boxes removed on the site; the codes are back as plain text.

Another option would be to link to the code in a text file that could be opened in an editor that can "save as".  Less possibility for error that way.

#2716 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2018-03-10 16:12:03

Remembering history . . . here we go again.  It seems our species never learns.

#2717 Re: Devuan » Hello, and thanks » 2018-03-06 00:10:59

Welcome to both of you.  Devuan love is always appreciated.  smile

#2718 Devuan » Why are systemd files present in Devuan? » 2018-03-04 20:17:54

golinux
Replies: 92

Why are there systemd files present in Devuan?  That question has been asked and answered several times including recently on the DNG mail list at the end of this post.  Sadly that link is now fubared:

I issued $locate systemd
and got 200 lines of output, including
/etc/systemd/system/* (23 files)
/lib/systemd/system/* (60 files)
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsystemd.so.0 (and 0.17.0)
/usr/lib/systemd (25 files)
/usr/bin/deb-systemd-helper ((and deb-systemd-invoke)
/var/lib/systemd/deb-systemd-helper-enabled/* (68 files)
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libsystemd):amd64* (5 files)

This seems a lot to me.  Please could you confirm that an ascii
installation should contain 200 systemd files as part of a normal
ascii installation.  Sorry to trouble you if these are trivial
questions, but they feel far from that.
Many thanks
leloft

Most of those "alarming" files are just systemd units files, put there
by daemons/packages/utilities who "also" support systemd in a way or
another. So they are not alarming but just *totally* *harmless* if you
don't have a running systemd as PID 1, since only systemd understands
and can run them.  It would be *totally* *useless* (and utterly
*stupid* IMHO) to fork, rebuild, and maintain a few more hundred
packages only because they happen to provide a systemd unit file for
those systems where systemd is used.

libsystemd0 is used by some daemons to verify if systemd is running or
not. If it's not, libsystemd is *totally* *harmless*.

HND

KatolaZ

#2719 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » alternative to mate-power-manager for ascii? [SOLVED] » 2018-03-04 03:02:02

GNUser wrote:

How are http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ and http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged different? Is one more "correct"?

http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ serves from a pool of http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged package mirrors (a 'round robin').  It is still being tested.

#2720 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta is here! » 2018-03-03 14:29:53

Thanks . . . but I can't even read xterm - font and colors are impossible.  I suppose I could just switch to xfce terminal in that launcher.

#2721 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta is here! » 2018-03-02 22:46:03

That's how I move files into /usr/share/themes/ or /usr/share/icons or even make quick edits in a config file here and there. In Thunar I can open any file or folder as root with a custom action.  If you knew how I type, you'd understand why . . .

Rant on . . .

#2722 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta is here! » 2018-03-02 22:02:03

cynwulf wrote:

There is a simple solution to all of your gksu and policykit problems:  stop running X11 graphical shit as root...

$ man sudo
$ man su

What about choice then???  I use gksu a lot in X11.  All my launchers in the panel and in Thunar use it.  It would break my workflow not to have it.  I WILL find a way to continue use it.

#2723 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » mtp device shown twice when plugged into ascii laptop » 2018-02-27 22:35:25

Maybe that's related to your other duplicate icon post?

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1910

Have you duplicated a config file somewhere?  Maybe fire up a vm and if it doesn't duplicate icons, start comparing directories/files

#2725 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Devuan ARM64 how to install correct headers or change kernel » 2018-02-25 01:09:19

That attitude will not gain points here.  We have a history that should not be blown off and rewritten.  "VUA" does not and never will refer to Devuan users in general.  A VUA would be answering not asking your question (but they don't hang out on this forum often so not much chance of that).

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