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#1 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Devuan and Secure Boot » Yesterday 22:20:23

Thanks fsr,

I'll see what I can find out.

fsmithred wrote:

You would need to create your own signing key. Search for 'secure boot self-signed' or something like that, and you'll find instructions.

#2 Hardware & System Configuration » Devuan and Secure Boot » 2018-03-18 23:21:52

Replies: 3

Is there any way to get Devuan to boot using Secure Boot? I get the 'invalid signature' or whatever-it-is message. Boots fine with secure boot off.

#3 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Need to resize partitions before upgrade » 2018-03-18 13:50:02

Geoff 42 wrote:

Couldn't you boot off a USB memory stick which has gparted, so that your real disk is not mounted. Then you can use gparted to shrink a partition and move it/them up to give you the room to grow sda1. I should probably include a warning about backing up...


That is what I'd do. I've done similar maneuvers with gparted many times. Shrink /root by however much space you want to give to /boot, move /root up leaving the now-unallocated space for a simple resize of /boot. Fast and easy.

You do have to run gparted from a LiveCD/USB session.

#4 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta is here! » 2018-02-23 00:48:15

greenjeans wrote:
fungus wrote:

gksu gksudo will be removed from debian repositories.

Great times, tough for sure, but challenge drives innovation and Devuan is the tip of the spear. wink

Amen, brother!

#5 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta is here! » 2018-02-19 14:34:11

I had the exact same issue with MATE, but using the -consolekit versions of both libpolkit-backend and libpolkit-gobject as per the instructions solved it for me. An upgrade had somehow left me with -consolekit on one, and -systemd on the other.

fsmithred wrote:

In xfce installed from desktop-live, shutdown buttons work and usb mounting works in all combinations of consolekit/elogind and slim/lightdm, but no combination gives me the ability to start gparted or synaptic from the menu or from terminal as gparted-pkexec or synaptic-pkexec.

I've seen the same problem in stretch. And I've also noticed that the problem doesn't exist if your user is in the sudo group. (I think that last feature is built into pam.)

#6 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta is here! » 2018-02-19 12:21:47

catprints wrote: … f8.en.html

These instructions helped restore my Devuan/ASCII/mate after upgrade. I use lightdm instead of slim.

Thanks, catprints!

The instructions got everything fixed up.

#7 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Beta is here! » 2018-02-19 01:00:12

I have been running Ascii MATE for several months now. There was a whole ball of polkit stuff upgraded, and now gparted and synaptic will not start from their menu items. Any ideas?

#8 Re: Off-topic » Getting to know you » 2018-02-02 00:21:45

greenjeans wrote:

Hi, i'm here because I was told there would be pudding? smile

How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?! ;-)  (apologies to Pink Floyd)

#9 Re: Off-topic » Getting to know you » 2018-02-01 23:25:59

golinux wrote:
sgage wrote:
golinux wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their meltdowns and confusion as long as they take responsibility instead of imagining that it's someone else's fault.

γραφω λογον said "I also like the social contract which states, quite simply and objectively, why the goals of this project do not fit my personal needs." That seems to be a bit self-contradictory, but anyway I'd like to know where I can find the social contract. I poked around a bit, and can't seem to find it...

I was also confused by that.   Debian has a social contract.   Devuan has the (almost) no Code of Conduct.  Is the poster referring to the Debian or the Devuan document.  And what in whichever document does not fit their "personal needs"?

I'm still trying to figure out why they even posted in this thread. it seemed to come out of nowhere, hinting at some ill-defined grievances. Very cryptic and weird to me - I'm just a simple follower of Devuan. For that matter, the OP was a bit confusing to me, but then, I am easily confused. Whatever - I wish everyone peace!

#10 Re: Off-topic » Getting to know you » 2018-02-01 22:29:13

golinux wrote:

Everyone is entitled to their meltdowns and confusion as long as they take responsibility instead of imagining that it's someone else's fault.

γραφω λογον said "I also like the social contract which states, quite simply and objectively, why the goals of this project do not fit my personal needs." That seems to be a bit self-contradictory, but anyway I'd like to know where I can find the social contract. I poked around a bit, and can't seem to find it...

#11 Re: Off-topic » Getting to know you » 2018-02-01 21:59:20

γραφω λογον wrote:
cynwulf wrote:

Oh I'm not upset.  You're just getting your knickers in a twist over some free OS and a Linux forum.

@cynwulf  smile

Yup. <s>Also the sky is blue.</s>

Edited to delete irrelevant tmi

I have read your postings in this thread, and I still don't have any idea what your problem with Devuan actually is, or why you're posting in this thread. Can you enlighten me? It's quite possible that I missed something.

#12 Re: Forum Feedback » Crossing the line or not? » 2018-01-29 01:21:20


I think you are overly touchy here. As is fungus. Ol' fungus is prone to bluster a bit, and sometimes I think he gets a bit over the top. So if he is suspended for a while to think about things, I don't really see it as some evil conspiracy. I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but I think he might have been suspended once in the past.

I think golinux has explained her part quite clearly, It seems like some people just like drama, and whipping up issues where there are none.

Just my opinion, observing this with no agenda.

#13 Re: Other Issues » Meltdown and Spectre » 2018-01-06 23:07:01

onekk wrote:

It seems that a dist-upgrade on ascii done yesterday pulls in 4.9.0-5-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.65-3+deb9u2 (2018-01-04) x86_64 GNU/Linux

as I'm on Intel as reported by dmesg

CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz (family: 0x6, model: 0x2a, stepping: 0x7)


Carlo D.

I got the patched kernel yesterday with a plain-old apt update; apt upgrade - didn't need dist-upgrade.

#14 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2017-12-30 02:51:48

A baseball joke that my non-American friends might not quite 'get':

The Boston Symphony recently performed Beethoven's Ninth symphony which is a wonderful piece that has a part near the end in which the bass violins do nothing. So, the bassists snuck offstage, out the backdoor, and next door to the local pub for a drink.

After quickly gulping down a few stiff drinks, one of them checked his watch and said, "Oh no, we only have 30 seconds to get back!"

Another bassist said, "Don't worry, I tied the last page of the conductor's score down with string to give us a bit more time. We'll be fine."

So, they staggered and stumbled back into the concert hall and took their places just as the conductor was busily working on the knot in the string so he could finish the symphony.

Someone in the audience asked his companion, "What's going on? Is there a problem?"
His companion said, "This is a critical point - it's the bottom of the Ninth, the score's tied, and the bassists are loaded!"

#15 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2017-12-30 02:41:11

So, two guys walk into a bar. The bartender says, "is this some kind of a joke"?

#16 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2017-12-23 17:10:00

I was wondering why the baseball was getting bigger and bigger. And then it hit me...

#17 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2017-12-18 23:40:37

A guy was involved in a terrible industrial accident - ripped off his entire left side.

He's all right now.

I'm sorry, I'll stop now. Maybe.

#18 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2017-12-18 23:38:34

fungus wrote:

What does one mushroom say to another?

Hey you are a "fun_guy" too!!

A slight variation that you might like to add to your collection, being a mycological person:

What do you call a mushroom at the bar who buys a round of drinks  for everyone?

A fun_guy to be with.

#19 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2017-12-18 23:28:14

What's the difference between a rooster and a lawyer?

The rooster gets up in the morning and clucks defiance.

#20 Re: Other Issues » Question on kernel upgrades » 2017-12-14 12:02:11

golinux wrote:

My jessie does not save older kernels - at least they're not listed at boot.  I would like to know what grub file needs to be tweaked to tell grub to save 2 kernels.  Used to be easy to do that with the old grub.   This is not progress . . .

I think I spoke too soon. I'm running ascii, upgraded from jessie. The upgrade left jessie's 3.16 kernel when it upgraded to 4.9, and I can boot either one from grub. Routine kernel updates don't work that way, I guess.

I agree - old grub was so much more understandable...

#21 Re: Other Issues » Question on kernel upgrades » 2017-12-13 20:43:22

I believe it saves one older kernel - at least that's what it does for me. When a new kernel is installed, it will then save the current kernel and delete the previous saved kernel. So you always have one fallback.

- sgage

tlathm wrote:

That's what I figured. I don't have Synaptic as this is a headless server. Thanks!


#22 Re: Off-topic » Firefox Quantum » 2017-12-13 13:21:38

fungus wrote:

There is jessie, ascii, ceres, AND experimental, there is no such thing as ascii experimental.
You must have meant devuan experimental.

That is what I meant.

#23 Re: Off-topic » Firefox Quantum » 2017-12-13 01:56:44

It is available in the ascii experimental repo.

greenjeans wrote:
MiyoLinux wrote:
golinux wrote:

FreeBSD might have taken care of the problem.  Did you check for apulse?

No package named apulse is even available. smile

Not in Devuan jessie either the last time I checked, maybe it's in ascii?

So, no libpulse0? That's the only thing I have on my system, VLC dragged it in (but doesn't really need it) so I deleted most of it, lol.

#24 Re: News & Announcements » eudev is now in ascii » 2017-12-08 15:05:17

My ascii system updated to eudev and libeudev1 without incident in yesterday's updates - version is 3.2.2-9. Experimental not enabled. Everything seems good.

#25 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] <Ascii> Devuan Version » 2017-12-06 12:22:03

Running lsb_release gives this (I'm running ascii):

sgage@ascii:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:	Devuan
Description:	Devuan GNU/Linux ascii
Release:	ascii
Codename:	n/a

I think it should be Release: 2.0 and Codename: ascii.

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