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#2 Re: Devuan » Age Verification » 2026-03-26 11:44:31

If I were in the place of bureaucrats, instead of resorting to intimidation, I would introduce substantial grants for distributions that implement verification. For the EU or the USA, one million dollars per year per distribution is a negligible amount. It would be interesting to see how many developers would still oppose it then.

Candy, like Whip and Candy Principle? It's no longer necessary. The Cow-ID test for compliance has been passed successfully. Stay home in your personal prison, don't hug your loved ones, don't communicate with them except through the internet, and don't ask what is in the syringe. Now, the whip is largely sufficient.

#3 Re: Devuan » Age Verification » 2026-03-26 01:41:06

https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/s … sion/page4

SysV init 3–16 was released, but the real debate is about mandatory ass fingerprints in Linux.

Anyway, the kid rapist will keep their policy—nobody dares stop them. The FBI says it’s impossible to arrest them because it’d destroy political stability. As for "regular" UID1000 users? They’re just slaves and love their masters.

#4 Re: Devuan » Age Verification » 2026-03-21 21:48:38

So how would I rate it? Or will I need to pay some censor authority to rate it like they would a movie film? If I rate it myself wrongly I could be bankrupted by a fine in £millions. In the UK it has been reported by someone who monitors this stuff that thousands of websites have already been pulled by their owners rather than risk a misstep.

Don't worry. I believe it's not for a long time. The world war III iis coming.

#5 Re: Devuan » Age Verification » 2026-03-21 19:13:38

https://agelesslinux.org/

The become-ageless.sh script allows any already installed Debian system to be converted into Ageless Linux. The script replaces the /etc/os-release file and includes information about non-compliance with age verification laws (COMPLIANCE_STATUS="refused", API_STATUS="refused", VERIFICATION_STATUS="flagrantly noncompliant"). It also adds a /etc/ageless/ directory containing reports on violated laws, as well as implements a prototype of a dummy API for applications to obtain user age information.

Enjoy smile

#6 Re: Devuan » Age Verification » 2026-03-21 13:26:55

It seems like I'll stop using internet except some official sh*t smile

It seems also that someone is already working on random credentials, but it's still like playing somebody else's game restricted by some rules which are not respected by the game owner.

#7 Re: Installation » How to pure OpenRC-based Devuan? » 2026-03-21 13:12:24

In ceres now 21 packages have native runit integration

the keyword is "Ceres" smile

I've an impression that openrc scripts are simplier than runit scripts (I don't have experience with runit). One more advantage of openrc is that pipewire can be launched as user services and audio switchs automatically when hardware is changed.

#8 Installation » How to pure OpenRC-based Devuan? » 2026-03-18 20:11:03

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Is it possible to install OpenRC on Devuan and use it for init?

Devuan only supports SysVinit, and OpenRC is considered a fake init in this context, similar to runit  (frankeninits). This means that even if I choose OpenRC during installation, the boot process will still be managed by SysVinit.

I've tried to create a pure OpenRC Devuan system but did not succeed. I added init=/usr/sbin/openrc-init to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in grub. The system starts and shows:

```
Setting up keyboard layout...done.
Starting swap...done.
Starting early crypto files...nvme01p5 crypt (running)...done.
Checking remaining crypto files...32/131072 files, 53216/54288 blocks
crypt file systems: fsck.fat 4.2 (2021-01-31)
boot:/dev/block/33:212 files, 6948/13682 clusters
done.
Cleaning up temporary crypto files...
Activating local filesystem swaps...if any...done.
Cleaning up temporary Swap, if any...done.
Starting up ArmorLoading applications profiles...done.
Starting Setting kernel variables: systl...done.
Configuring network interfaces...done.
Cleaning up temporary firewall rules...done.
Starting netfilter boot and shadow times into wtmpdb:
ntpd-update-boot.nb
Starting system message bus: dbus.
Starting default runtime cron daemon: elogind.
Starting anacron (hypothetical) service.
Starting rc-modules: bluetooth, network manager.
Starting console command scheduler: crond.
Starting network connection manager: NetworkManager.
```

Then it gets stuck.
/etc/runlevels/boot is empty. I've tried to fill it with symlinks, but that did not help.

#9 Re: Off-topic » What other distro are you using (besides devuan)? » 2026-03-15 10:28:44

Devuan is my main OS. There is also MX inux as second or fallback OS.
My addiitonal laptop for mobility is not doing well with old software, so I've to use Artix. Artix is almost great but it's not consistent. I mean you can get new kernel wich is not fully compatible with firmware during update, or DE can be updated and then I've inconsistency between it and something else.
As conclusion I've to say that arch based systemd free distributions can be the best fom the best if they take care of consistency. Until that  moment #that will never happen# smile Devuan is the best.

#10 Re: Devuan Derivatives » why peppermintos? » 2026-03-03 17:32:51

If so minimal differences why standalone distro for that?

In those old days ... Peppermintos was quick, polished and advanced.

Now the differences are minimal, one can play with debian, devuan, antix, mx, peppermint etc by adding repos, mixing packages etc and get something similar.

#11 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] DNS stopped working on Devuan Ceres » 2026-03-01 10:51:37

Voidlinux & artixlinux both fit that bill.

smile big_smile

Can't say much about Void (it's probably better while being limited in terms of software) but Artix is definitely less stable than Ceres.

#12 Re: Off-topic » yt-dlp to depend on deno or another supported JavaScript runtime » 2026-02-20 16:44:16

nodejs (packaged by debian and available in devuan) just works.

worse than deno from security point of view.

#13 Re: Off-topic » yt-dlp to depend on deno or another supported JavaScript runtime » 2026-02-20 16:37:52

im not sure about security of any JS framework to bundled alongside yt-dlp, that will need to be researched.

exactly

https://www.ndss-symposium.org/wp-conte … -paper.pdf

to use only when necessary

#14 Re: Off-topic » Password managers » 2026-02-20 15:45:07

No password manager
No passwords or any credentials stored in browser
No untrusted applications
No systemd
No nvidia, broadcom
No Intel ME (when possible)

Yes:
FDE
firewall
application level firewall
blocklisting
sandboxing
virtualization
immutability (overlayfs on top of tmpfs)
tor

absolute minimum to sleep better at night in 2026 smile

#15 Re: Off-topic » Password managers » 2026-02-20 15:31:34

Which is why I do not use passord managers.

+

#16 Re: Other Issues » Does Mate 1.28 use X11 or Wayland by default? » 2026-02-20 15:29:34

Wayland: KDE, Gnome = full support, Cinnamon = experimental, xfce, bugdie = work in progress, mate - no

#17 Re: Freedom Hacks » About installers » 2026-02-20 15:16:02

FYI, refractainstaller had FDE before debian-installer did.

I suppose the keyword is "had" no "has". Now the only way to get FDE with refracta-installer is to chroot and to repair. Yes, it HAD, I've used it those times, but it's over.

#18 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Is there a Devuan derivative targeting old hardware/laptops? » 2026-02-19 11:10:13

Any lightweight Debian distro, e.g. https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lilidog and migration https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … libur.html

It is as easy as this.

Or generously shared config for WM from this forum https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5742

Or just https://antixlinux.com/ which can be aslo switched to use Devuan's package base.

Plenty of options.

#19 Re: Freedom Hacks » About installers » 2026-02-19 10:53:43

My argument is (and always has been) that refracta-installer needs a consistent UI

refracta-installer is half-garbage. No correct FDE support in 2026, seriously?! UI is not a problem here.

#20 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ext4 write slow on small 120gb sata SSD » 2026-02-19 10:50:03

2012 actually, don't hate, how many SSD's last 14 years?

I've one from 2013, still in use. It has all chances to live more than 14 years. This old laptop had 7200 Rpm HD but it was too slow smile
My other machine has 2 slots for HDs, so I use 1 SSD for root, for VMs and model to start them quickly and 1 HD for downloads and data storage.

#21 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] how start ntp? » 2026-02-19 10:39:46

21 days later, ntp is not started yet smile smile smile

#22 Re: Freedom Hacks » About installers » 2026-02-15 09:07:03

It can be a pleasure to apt-get purge systemd

smile smile

#23 Re: Freedom Hacks » UDisks2: Security Considerations » 2026-02-15 09:04:38

The skepticism toward AI today parallels the Soviet-era rejection of cybernetics.

It's possible that it was just propaganda to make West to believe in it.
They were first or among first in AI. The soviet AI called Pankrat and some soviet ideas probably got their second birth in Deepseek.

#24 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ext4 write slow on small 120gb sata SSD » 2026-02-14 15:40:12

I see all you need is to drop promotions for your "best" thing for no reason, just because you like to promote.

This thread had nothing to do with i/o schedulers, nobody asked which one is the best.
When told out of left-field that something is "The best" (without an "in my opinion"), asking for some proof isn't unreasonable.

You don`t want to get the idea:

I share here some of my foundings that are good, interesting or better than default. You can just note that is not for you.

I`M NOT A SELLER. You can use it or not, read the docs or not, test or not, I don`t care.

#25 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] ext4 write slow on small 120gb sata SSD » 2026-02-14 14:56:43

steve_v, I see all you need is to discuss for no reason, just because you like to discuss.

ADIOS is just Adaptive Deadline I/O Scheduler. It means that it`s scheduler, just another (better) scheduler. Not default linux scheduler but new better one. It is designed to optimize I/O operations in Linux by providing low latency through adaptive latency control and dynamic deadline adjustments based on past performance. It also effectively prioritizes requests and groups.

You are not forced to use it, OK?

I share here some of my foundings that are good, interesting or better than default. You can just note that is not for you.

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