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#1 Desktop and Multimedia » Nvidia and wine » Today 01:45:06

UnclePa
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I'm trying to run a wine 3d program and it says libGL.so.1 cannot be found.  As best I can tell, the 384.130 NVidia drivers do not have 32 bit versions.  Am I correct that I need to install the 32bit and 64bit legacy-340 drivers in order to run wine 3D programs?

#2 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » In search of a privacy oriented browser » 2018-09-14 20:59:57

Thanks everyone!  While it worked fairly well, brave was a huge memory hog and it had some shortcomings.  I've been running ungoogled chrome for a couple of days now and think it may be just what I was looking for.  I have more tabs open than I did with brave and using 5GB less memory but that's not quite a fair comparison until I've used it a few more days.

#3 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » In search of a privacy oriented browser » 2018-08-10 01:50:05

I've been using Brave for over a week now and it does not force ads on you.  It blocks all ads by default.  You can opt in to accept ads to help support sites that you choose.  Moreover, they claim that the tracking they do does not include anything that could be traced back to you.  It's open source so you can check it.

#4 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Real.video What do i need to install? [SOLVED] » 2018-08-10 01:32:09

It works for me both in tor-browser and Brave.  I'm not aware of anything special that I've installed but I think both of those include all their own dependencies.

#5 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » In search of a privacy oriented browser » 2018-07-31 16:39:52

Odd, I thought for sure cynwulf posted something here earlier this morning.

So far, I think Brave looks pretty good.  It is a bit of a resource hog, but someone recently gave me a server that had been infected by a ransom-ware virus and it has 16GB RAM so I probably won't notice it as much as I would have on my old laptop that has 4GB.  854 trackers blocked, and 2,739 ads blocked in 2 days looks impressive.  The only problem I've had with it is that I can't get it to work with Atlassian.  I could probably turn on all cookies for all sites and it would work, but I don't really want to do that.  You can only turn on cookies selectively for the active site and apparently Atlassian pulls some scripts from domains that don't have a web page I can make active.  I generally need 2 browsers open anyway as I have some sites I need multiple connections to that conflict, so it isn't a show stopper.  And my desktop is "synergy-ed" to my 2 laptops on either side so I can also use either of them.

#6 Re: Installation » MIYO "install" button seems to do nothing » 2018-07-31 00:04:31

If it said no bootloader was installed, it isn't going to boot.  Do you have more than 1 hard drive?  Are you sure you entered the device correctly?

#7 Re: News & Announcements » How you can help Devuan » 2018-07-30 23:44:16

Is there a list of Debian packages that depend on systemd that need importing to Devuan or that have been imported but need maintainers?

#8 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » In search of a privacy oriented browser » 2018-07-30 16:15:37

Well, this is off-topic, but since it's my topic, perhaps I can take that liberty. tongue

MiyoLinux wrote:

You mentioned Void, and I have to admit that I'm a Void fan. I run it on one partition just to keep my toes wet. big_smile

Yeah, I liked Void a lot, but the forums for Artix and Void were not very newbie friendly.  There seemed to be an attitude that they only wanted experienced users.  Arch tends toward that as well.  I also got annoyed that the moderators locked a discussion regarding the github takeover because some negative things were being said about Microsoft.  I definitely do not belong in a place where Microsoft is a sacred cow.

Anyway, I really appreciate the patience I have seen here with newbies.  I hope the attitude of wanting to be an O/S for everyone will continue.  Perhaps I should qualify that a bit as such a goal is probably not achievable, but hopefully you get my drift--that all are at least welcome to try and we'll help as best we can.    Many thanks to the devs, moderators and forum white knights.  I'm really liking Devuan and the community so far.

Anyway, to bring this back on topic, it looks like Brave creates one or more new PIDs for every tab.  While it does use a lot of resources, that may actually be useful.  Often (usually?) the slowness in Firefox appears to be a rogue script but I've never figured out a way to determine which one.  I usually have dozens of tabs open and closing them one by one may or may not help me find the problem.  Possibly if I run into that with Brave, "top" will tell me which PID is using all the CPU.  There's a chance that killing that PID may target the exact page that is causing the problem.  Of course, there's also a chance that would crash Brave.  Perhaps I'll find out.

#9 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » In search of a privacy oriented browser » 2018-07-29 13:14:47

golinux wrote:

Brave browser from Wikipedia:

History

Brave is developed by Brave Software, which was founded on May 28, 2015 by Brendan Eich and Brian Bondy. On January 20, 2016, Brave Software launched the first version of Brave with a partial ad blocking feature, and announced plans for an ad replacement feature and a revenue sharing program.[13]

In June 2018, Brave released a pay-to-surf testing version of the browser. This version of Brave is preloaded with approximately 250 ads, and sends a detailed log of the user's browsing activity to Brave. Brave announced that expanded trials will follow.[14]

Doesn't sound very private to me.

Brave claims that your browsing history remains private.  IOW, they count hits but do not tie the hits to you.  As someone else mentioned, it all boils down to whom you can trust.  If legitimate, Brave is an innovative attempt to solve a real problem.  A huge number of web sites eventually have to face the decision of either using ads or shutting down because user donations are very unreliable and usually taper off over time even when traffic increases.  Finding sponsors for anything controversial is well-nigh impossible.  There are some sites where I don't mind the ads because I understand that everyone has to eat and food and bandwidth cost money.  Giving the user control over which ads he sees may be a good compromise.  TANSTAAFL.

Anyway, I'm trying Brave now.  If I start seeing ads targeted to my browsing, I'll know my browsing is not private.

Edit: Oh, and the "support your favorite sites" is optional.  The default is to block ads.  I've got a message and buttons at the top of the window:

Hello! Ready to support your favorite sites? Brave will fill your wallet with tokens to get you started!   [No Thanks]  [Maybe Later]  [I'm Ready]

So apparently you can opt in at any time, or just say "No".

#10 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » In search of a privacy oriented browser » 2018-07-28 20:32:35

Miyo, it was kind of weird.  Various window frames kept popping up and closing all over the screen.  I had to change to another desktop and kill it.  When I was younger, I enjoyed trying to figure out how to fix things like that but now I just want them to work.  So when I run into a problem like that, I usually just uninstall and try something else.  Stability is one of the main reasons I switched from Arch/Void/Artix on my 3 computers.  All 3 are running Devuan now.  I'm not familiar with GDebi but may look into it if I want to try again.  Thanks.

One of the reasons the VPN interested me is that I travel a fair amount and have run into problems with some sites being geographically restricted.  I can't really justify a monthly subscription for something I would only use every now and then.

#11 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » In search of a privacy oriented browser » 2018-07-28 03:02:05

cynwulf wrote:

It would be interesting to know what "missing library" was involved?  Usually in Debian based systems it's enough to install the package then

# apt-get -f install

to try to resolve dependencies.

It is libfontconfig, requires >= v.2.11.94.  Our current version is 2.11.0-6.7+b1.

Keos, thanks, but as mentioned in the OP, I'd like to try one of the chromium based browsers.  Firefox seemed to start really bogging down a few years ago and seems to be getting worse all the time.

#12 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » In search of a privacy oriented browser » 2018-07-25 18:45:46

Thanks for the reply and I understand what you're saying.  I'm not looking for anything absolute and I realize that almost any modern browser can actually be made fairly private and secure by the right add-ons and settings.  But it makes sense to me to start with something tight and loosen only what I must have rather than trying to find all the things that need tightening.

Alas, I wasn't able to get Iridium to work anyway.  It's wanting a newer library (forgotten which one) than what's in the repositories.

Edit: And by "safe," I was mainly referring to avoiding pulling in the stuff that Devuan leaves out.

#13 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Nvidia warning at boot » 2018-07-24 21:46:44

I think you did the opposite of what Ogis suggested, which was to comment out the command.  You've added it.  Delete the file you created and look for a file that has that command.

grep "install nvidia" /etc/modprobe.d/*

should work to find the file that has that command if it exists.  IMO, if it works, you can just ignore the warning.  It is simply reminding you that you are running some non-free software.

#14 Desktop and Multimedia » In search of a privacy oriented browser » 2018-07-24 21:33:35

UnclePa
Replies: 43

I've used waterfox, palemoon, and tor-browser in the past with various degrees of satisfaction.  I'd like to try one of the chromium based browsers but as a newbie to Devuan am not sure what is safe.  Is adding a source list like the following https://iridiumbrowser.de/downloads/debian safe to do?

Alternatively, I'd be interested in others' experience with privacy oriented browsers.  The VPN feature of opera sounded interesting but I couldn't get opera to work at all.

#15 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » ASCII: Can't start Xorg after system upgrade [SOLVED] » 2018-07-17 19:21:36

Ah, I was wondering what all the Nvidia stuff was about when lshw only listed Intel.  I forgot about Optimus.  I'll have to bow out.  That's out of my league.

#16 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » ASCII: Can't start Xorg after system upgrade [SOLVED] » 2018-07-16 12:12:07

As Panopticon said, what's in xorg.conf and/or xorg.conf.d?  Also, do you have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed?

#17 Re: Other Issues » [Solved] Older version of php » 2018-07-09 21:15:11

Thanks for the reply.  Can't switch to something new yet.  We have hundreds of mysql calls that are deprecated and converting them to PDO is a pretty low priority (not to mention horribly boring).  I wasn't able to compile without downgrading openssl (I think that's the one) which I didn't want to do so ended up following the directions at https://packages.sury.org/php.  It seems to be working fine.  Thanks again.

#18 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2018-07-09 16:49:54

MiyoLinux wrote:

Still playing with PekWM...and REALLY liking it! Why is this window manager lesser known and not more widely used?

I've been using it for years.  Every so often I try others but always come back to it.  Not much point in posting my desktop.  It's just a black screen with a mouse cursor.  smile  Perhaps that's one of the reasons it is lesser known--nothing flashy, nothing to show off.

#19 Other Issues » [Solved] Older version of php » 2018-07-09 13:08:28

UnclePa
Replies: 3

I just installed Devuan last week so this is a newbie question.  I need to run an older version of php (5.6 specifically).  It doesn't show up in synaptic.  I want to stay clear of systemd.  Can I safely add a Debian repository to get the binary package or should I compile it from source?

#20 Re: Installation » Deterministic names for network interfaces? » 2018-07-09 12:35:58

One thing you might check, according to Arch's wiki, udev doesn't like upper case letters in the MAC addresses.  I have 2 network cards but haven't had that problem, either because they both use the same driver or I haven't rebooted enough times for it to happen.

#21 Re: DIY » Compiling the latest version of wine » 2018-07-06 22:25:49

Thanks much!  That worked without having to compile.  I guess this thread is in the wrong place and rather noob questions.   My apologies.

#22 Re: DIY » Compiling the latest version of wine » 2018-07-06 21:12:17

Thanks!  I saw it, but as soon as I saw DISTRO, I had a translation problem.  Which one would I use?  I've installed ASCII.

#23 DIY » Compiling the latest version of wine » 2018-07-06 15:57:11

UnclePa
Replies: 4

Someone recently gave me a server that had a ransomware virus and I successfully installed Devuan on it this week.  I liked it so much, I put it on my laptop as well.  Both installs went super smooth.  I've been using Arch and then Void (to get away from systemd) for several years.  So far the only thing I miss is having the latest version of wine.  Some of the games I play don't work well or at all on Devuan's version of wine.  This isn't a show stopper as gaming is just a diversion.  Still, I do enjoy it.  Anyway, I thought I'd try to compile wine myself but can't seem to get very far.  Has anyone done this or have some pointers?  Some of my problems are unfamiliarity with Debian/Devuan and the translation between the two.

The particular problem I have at the moment is:

configure: error: X 32-bit development files not found. Wine will be built
without X support, which probably isn't what you want. You will need
to install 32-bit development packages of Xlib at the very least.

My research points to needing "libx11-dev:i386" but that package doesn't seem to exist.

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